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  1. #5771

    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    it's neither invalid nor a mistake.. it means the same thing,. reverting it to the old doesn't really make it wrong, the Pope only respects tradition, that's all there is to it.
    Reverting to the old one has to have some better reasons than merely tradition.. or is it?

  2. #5772
    Quote Originally Posted by Passport View Post
    Reverting to the old one has to have some better reasons than merely tradition.. or is it?
    Lets put it this way bai .

    Nakabantay ka sa mga mabdos karon ? Nagka bata ?

    Nakabantay ka sa mga elementary karon maayo na kaayo mo balikas ?

    Nakabantay ka sa mga conservative kaayo , westernized na kaayo ang approach ?

    Its the same concept as far as I can grasp it basin on the works of B16 , towards the faithfuls , ang way of how a true Christian should recognized its roots and go back to the basics . Daghan karon Katoliko sa ngalan lamang ug adorno , ilabi na karon uso kaayo ang St. Benedicts Medallion / Cross yet wala sila kabalo unsa na . Diri mismo sa forums daghan ni sulti na Katoliko sila pero di na sila mo simba kay na discourage sila sa ubang pari etc .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  3. #5773
    Quote Originally Posted by Passport View Post
    Reverting to the old one has to have some better reasons than merely tradition.. or is it?
    the Pope Emeritus has opted to stick to the original Latin due to theological reasons ... i think <SMILE> has posted about it previously...



    Let me add: The conversation is meant to be like this in the original Latin:

    Celebrant: The Lord be with you.

    Congregation: We do in fact acknowledge the grace, presence and Spirit of Christ in your spirit.


    Hope this clears everything.

    New translation

  4. #5774
    back to the basics diay ang show. hehe

    ok, next question ta...

  5. #5775
    Quote Originally Posted by cobraKing View Post
    nganong naa may mangulikta ug kwarta inig ka mesa(like offering/kanang i.hulog sa sibot ang offering)??
    para na sa expenses sa church bro bayd sa kuryente, tubig, maintenance, sweldo sa mga tiglimpyo...
    plus fundings pa sa mga religious groups nga tied up sa maong simbahan
    fundings sa mga outreach, perting daghana gastosan actually
    that if you'd think about it, kuwang ra kaayo ang mga sinsilyo nga atong ihulog inig offering( wala pa juy pugsanay kung di ka muhatag)

  6. #5776
    Thanks guys...

    for personal conflicts of conscience, I have not been attending the Mass...

    but, I am gradually coming back... I just happen to notice the revised version of the newer Old script.

  7. #5777
    @passport:

    ... i had the same dilemma when i was in college and began doubting the teachings of the Church (i was into new age stuff then, hehe)


    its only when i began to question and study the Church teachings when everything came to light

  8. #5778
    Quote Originally Posted by newbie.86 View Post
    @passport:

    ... i had the same dilemma when i was in college and began doubting the teachings of the Church (i was into new age stuff then, hehe)


    its only when i began to question and study the Church teachings when everything came to light
    I never doubted the Teachings.. in fact I eagerly devoured materials that included the Gnostic Gospels, Coptic writing, and had my insignificant personal search.

    It was when I delved into the depth of the Lord's Prayer that pushed me out.. kay naay mga tawo nga murag dili gyud nako mapasaylo sa ilang gibuhat sa akong pamilya. I begun to feel like an outsider everytime that part of the Mass comes. How ironic for someone who was raised inside a monastery...

  9. #5779
    Quote Originally Posted by Passport View Post
    Thanks guys...

    for personal conflicts of conscience, I have not been attending the Mass...

    but, I am gradually coming back... I just happen to notice the revised version of the newer Old script.
    that's nice brad.

  10. #5780
    OT :

    @ Passport ...

    It is always better to be OPEN and not BIAS by searching , studying , asking , etc . about the DOCTRINES , TRADITIONS , SCRIPTURES , FAITH , HISTORY , BACKGROUND , FOUNDATION etc of a certain church , belief , religion , community etc.

    From there , with religiousity and humility, you can see for yourself the beauty of life through Jesus Christ . Heck St. Augustine did not arrive to that point for 30 years .

    I see a lot of testimonies from the forumers na some of their reasons why they change religion is because they are confused or it did not meet their demands of understanding . UNSATISFACTORY kaayo ang reason . Kay if we use that leverage , then mura ta ug bakasyonista , cge lang ug ISLAND HOPPING .

    Back to topic .... NEXT QUESTION .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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