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  1. #311

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    mao lagi bro, UNLESS you would study the catechism of the CATHOLIC CHURCH, you would always percieve RCC
    as a contradiction...hinlabi nag apilan nimug browse2x sa mga ANTI-Catholic sites...NAKO!!!!!! Lol
    i won't argue with you further kay maikog tang defender(TS) and Mod(Master Spring)
    i'll leave you with this: To My "Bible Only" Christian Brothers and Sisters, From A Catholic Convert [a humble vanity], not an official catholic site
    but insights from someone who used to be anti-catholic.

    cge back to the topic na ta break, kay maikog ta...

    cge unsa may imung personal stand about ni Peter going to Rome?
    bitaw break, nganong dili man ka mo take time ug study sa Catholic Catechism? Kasabot ko nimo bro pero try to be open-minded pud kay wala rabay religion nga makaluwas. Bisag kausa lang, try not to be bias, try to listen and know the catholic perspective total same raman RCC and Protestants mga Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fri13th View Post
    bitaw break, nganong dili man ka mo take time ug study sa Catholic Catechism? Kasabot ko nimo bro pero try to be open-minded pud kay wala rabay religion nga makaluwas. Bisag kausa lang, try not to be bias, try to listen and know the catholic perspective total same raman RCC and Protestants mga Christians.
    1 million likes bro! Lol

    @break, this is coming from a Christian baptized in a pentecostal church since birth. .

    wa juy problem nang differences oi...ang problema is when we start pointing fingers without even getting the FULL perspective.

  3. #313

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    @ fri13th, macho papa man kaau...Lol

  4. #314

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    1 million likes bro! Lol

    @break, this is coming from a Christian baptized in a pentecostal church since birth. .

    wa juy problem nang differences oi...ang problema is when we start pointing fingers without even getting the FULL perspective.
    Actually bro, anhi jud ko nagsugod ug question sa akong namat-an nga Christian denomination, nganong anti-catholic kaayo ug nganong sigeg pangigo sa RCC abi nakog manimba nganong saglan man ug tira sa laing denomination?

    Mao karon non-denominational nako. I can go to the Catholic church whenever I want walay magboot kay para nako Christian is Christian basta of course ang major doctrine naa, motoo ug Holy Trinity.

    Sa mga anti-catholics labi natong bago ra na-convert, think again bros before mo magpadala sa uso and you'll find yourselves fighting the wrong fight.

  5. #315

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post


    pasayloa lang ko @noy kung wala kayo ko knowledge about RC cathechism. heheheh. just like most of its members, nagmata lang pud tawn ug udto ba. So need jud someone like you to preach somewhere else like public places kay dili mani maoy topic permi sa pari gud inig misa kay gi control man daw ang message nga ipagawas sa vatican.
    Are you accusing CATHOLICS are SINNERS ?? GUILTY AS CHARGED.

    I also doubt if you have attended mass everyday. How could you even judge something that you have not even heard of? Yes, priests have to abide by the guidelines and rules of the Catholic Church when they preach. They cant preach anything against the doctrine of the Church.

    But
    I doubt if the Pope has the means and ways to reach about a million priests everyday on what to say at Mass. Conspiracy theory na pud ka da... hahahaha.


    SOLA SCRIPTURA is a self-refuting proposition and is therefore, FALSE!

    Reason: The Bible DOES NOT say so, but entrusts to the Church of Jesus Christ to be the PILLAR and FOUNDATION of TRUTH.


    Questions:

    1.) Does the Bible contains an INSPIRED table of contents? NO.

    The current canon of Scriptures was determined by the Catholic Fathers and approved by Pope Damasus for use in the entire Christendom during the third century and used by the early Christians.

    Jesus himself DID NOT give an inspired list of what books are to be included in the Bible.



    2.) Did the apostles practice Sola Scriptura? NO.

    Jesus DID NOT hand out a manual for them, but with ORAL INSTRUCTIONS, which form the part of our Sacred Tradition.

    Later, these oral traditions were written and became the Bible. However, NOT everything was recorded in the Bible and these Traditions were still honored as part of the Deposit of Faith built by the apostles.

    3.) Was Martin Luther and all Protestants INFALLIBLE when he decided on what books to be included in the Canon of Scripures? NO.

    Protestantism occurred 1 500 years AFTER the ministry of Jesus. Did somebody among them spoke to Jesus himself on what teachings are to be included in the Bible? Definitely not.

    They just DECIDED ON WHAT THEY FEEL is the actual teaching of Jesus. They do not have the guidance of the Apostles or their successors, WHOM actually have spoken to Jesus when they determined the Canon.


    4. Is there a verse in the Bible that the Bible is the ONLY authority of Christians? NO.

    Protestants use this argument:
    "All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work." (2 Timothy 3:16-17)
    However, Paul DOES NOT say, that the Scriptures are sufficient all by themselves.

    What about the oral instructions of Jesus and of the apostles that are not written in the Bible? Are they also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness? Of course yes.

    5.) Did individual Christians of the early Church use the Bible as we know it? NO.

    For the first three hundred years, they relied on he testaments and oral instructions of the apostles and their successors.

    6.) So, what is the best defense a Protestant can give in support of Sola Scriptura?

    They have to admit that the Bible itself is a FALLIBLE collection of infallible books. Sola Scriptura therefore, is a FALLIBLE ASSUMPTION.


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    BACK TO TOPIC TA:

    Kay nisurrender naman to si machinecult, ug si defender kay wa na nitingog, ikaw na lang jud ang mo tubag:

    Was Peter went to ROME ??

  6. #316

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    Lol OT na ta tanan! hahaha...asa namang LOVE ani? o cge na, was peter went to rome ba daw ingun ang TS? Lol ...
    i mean did peter go to Rome? hehe

  7. #317

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    Lol OT na ta tanan! hahaha...asa namang LOVE ani? o cge na, was peter went to rome ba daw ingun ang TS? Lol ...
    i mean did peter go to Rome? hehe
    @ noy:

    hahaha... dugay na jud ko nag pa abot sa ilang tubag. kay cge man gud reformat ang question, naglibog na hinuon.

    Did peter went to Rome?
    Was peter go to rome?
    Did peter go to Rome?

    ug unsa pa diha...


    mas maayo jud siguro gamiton ang original format para masabtan sa nag pangutana.. hehehe,

    Was Peter went to Rome?

  8. #318

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    hahaha...cge LARGA! !
    ang tubag sa mga Katololiko..aw Katoliko diay..Lol
    kay peter went to Rome and extablished the Catholic Church backed up with archeological and historical finds and the apostolic order of the Catholic church traced through RCC..
    we also have other forumers who say otherwise, especially the TS(Defender)
    ang ato karun ani, How will you debunk the archeological and Historical accounts about Peter indeed lived and martyrd in Rome.
    tangible facts were presented by those who say Peter did, for fairness sake, tangible faces should also be presented by those who say otherwise.

    Thank You.

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    what about the tomb found in a certain Monastery in the Mt. of Olives in Jerusalem that said to have housed the remains of St. Peter?

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    naa ba proof na he went?

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