Was Peter went to ROME?

[TheSunKing]

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Stories that surfaced 200-300 years later when Christianity becomes state church for the Roman empire would be self-serving your belief. Let's stick to the time before the Great Fire of Rome, AD 64.

Bro, I just want to make this point:

1.) Aside from Catholics, other Christians, like Protestants, Orthodox and Copts BELIEVE by virtue of tradition that Paul was martyred in Rome, even if this event is not recorded in the Bible. His body is buried outside the walls of the city, that's why we have the Catholic basilica of St. Paul Outside-the-Walls which is the traditional burial place of Paul.

St. Paul's Tomb Unearthed in Rome -- National Geographic

If Protestants can use the writings of Clement to prove this fact of Paul's martyrdom in Rome, there is no way then that they can deny Peter's martyrdom as mentioned by the same author.

2. Moreover, Babylon is mentioned in the New Testament SIX TIMES, and this UNANIMOUSLY referred to the ancient imperial capital of Roman empire. However, when is used to prove Peter's existence in Rome, when writing from Babylon, you are quick to TWIST THIS FACT and claim (with no certainty, of course) that he is somewhere in an insignificant and remote village in Egypt.


3. Peter's journey to Rome is an UNDISPUTED FACT among early Christians elsewhere. Syrian, Egyptian (Alexandrian), French, Roman, Palestinian (Caesaria), African (Hippo) ancient Christian writers, and even the pagan emperor Julian were UNANIMOUS in stating the FACT that Peter was indeed in Rome where he suffered martyrdom and was buried there.

Had he died somewhere else, there would be rival claimants to the burial place of the first Pope, BUT THERE WAS NONE. Even the Church of Antioch, the first church that Peter also founded AGREES with this fact. The existence of his tomb at Mons Vaticanus has been there centuries ago BEFORE the reign of Constantine.

4. Archeological evidence corroborates with the writings of the ancient writers.

Bones of St Peter

Tomb of St Peter

5. Enormous effort in erecting the Basilica of St Peter in an uneven terrain, when they could have built it more comfortably within the walls of the Roman city. It is also oddly located outside the walls of Nero's Circus -- a place where persecuted Christians were buried.

St Peter's Basilica

Here is the illustration of the position of the tomb and the circus.

[Breakeven]

OT:
hehehe ingon sa ako pag-umangkon 5th grader kani kuno sa ubos ang sakto. kay kung mogamit kuno Did kinahanglan pesent kuno ang mosunod nga verb tinoud bah?

hehheh OT naman ta ani....

Ani tingali bro, if declarative statement sakto ang...."I WENT to SEE my Father-in-law.", Bati man sad "I WENT to SAW my...

...but kung interrogative statement, labi na kung past tense ani tingali, "DID you/he/she WENT to See your Father...?" unless asking in present tense, sakto ang "DID you GET my point?"

unsa kaha sakto ani?

[woodpusher]

OT: "Did Peter go to Rome?" ang sakto kay ang auxiliary verb "did'' past tense na man..ang verb nga "go" dili na usbon...

[Breakeven]

OT: "Did Peter go to Rome?" ang sakto kay ang auxiliary verb "did'' past tense na man..ang verb nga "go" dili na usbon...

OT:
thanks bro.
mao tingali gamay ko grado english pag high school. hahahhh!

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

To enrich what THESUNKING posted , here is also a summarized explanation .

Take note, these are gathered from TRADITIONAL , HISTORICAL and ARCHAEOLOGICAL STUDIES . From the source also , do not relate TRADITIONS to LEGENDS because they are not . If you only rely frome BIBLE text , it will only make you sound like a FUNDIE because it is nothing but of INTERPRETATION rather of an EXPLANATION.

Was Peter in Rome? | Catholic Answers

On a personal level of answer , YES , ST. PETER went to Rome . As a tourist who went to one of the popular tourist attractions late last year.

Mamertine Prison - Rome, Italy

Archeologists find evidence of St Peter's prison - Telegraph

[defender_1611]

No record of Peter going to Rome in the NT, only Paul. Peter concentrated more on the Jews/Jewish converts to Christianity, Paul was to non-Jews (gentiles) and foreigners.

yes absolutely correct. I do not believe that Peter went to ROME.

[defender_1611]

Yes, TS. Saint Peter has been in Rome, twice. This has been documented not only by Christian historians, but by pagans and Jews as well.

Biblical proof: Peter wrote his first epistle in Babylon, which is the code name for Rome at the time because of the similar persecution Jews suffered at the hands of the Romans and earlier, from Babylonians.

Ayon sa Bibliya, ito ang nakasaad:

“The Church HERE in Babylon, united with you by God’s election, sends you her greeting, and so does my son, Mark”
1 Pet. 5:13

Peter was writing FROM Babylon (code name for Rome), and with him is his son Mark.


Read on:

Peter in Rome -- Protestant Admission

Peter in Rome -- Catholic Answers

Wrong sir. There is no evidence that Rome was ever called "Babylon" until after the Book of the Revelation was written. The Revelation was written about 95 A.D., many years after the death of Simon Peter. If I Peter 5:13 refers to Rome, then Simon Peter did not write the letter and we have a forgery in the Bible.

Peter's method and manner of writing are in no sense apocalyptic. He is direct and matter-of-fact. That this man Peter, plain of speech almost to bluntness, should interject into the midst of his personal explanations and final salutations such a mystical epithet, with no hint of what he means by it, is beyond credulity. Peter says the elect in Babylon send greetings to the Jews of the Dispersion in Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia. "Babylon" is no more cryptic than "Pontus," "Asia," or the rest. He means what he says. His "Babylon" is the Babylon on the Euphrates. It is a part of that eastern world where Peter lived his life and did his work.

[defender_1611]

walay mga bible verse ug supporting verse nga mkapamatuod nga ni adto jud sya? just want to learn more from bible xD

wala gyud sir. bisan usa......there is no place in the New Testament where there is any hint or any record of any kind that Peter was in Rome.

[<SMILE>]

We believe that Saint Peter was our first Pope,
then why is it that there's a need to argue?

[noy]

if Peter had no partaking in the Roman Church (Catholicism), why is Roman Catholicism closely ties with lots of Jewish Practices?