Comments on Former president NOYNOY AQUINO.

[Romeojin]

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^did i say they manufacture 36,000 vehicles a year? you just proved my point? why operate only at 25% of your plant if there's a high demand for your vehicles? so what kun nawala ang lone car exporter? dako diay ug impact ang ma export sa Ford compared sa total country's export? morag mas dakog mawala ang gobyerno through incentives kun magpabilin sila dinhi.

my point is, Ford plant was shut down because of their 'economic decision', dili na tinood imong giingon nga tungod kay gitangtang ang incentives. in other words, hinay ilang halin so dili na viable nga maintain ug plant sa Pinas. so why blame PNoy?

oo klaro kaayo why bother posting 36k a year lol kung you know how many vehicles they had produce in short wa gyud ka idea, epic fail again. unsa man basis nimo anang "good or bad business" diba 36k per year vs 80k total export ? PJ - palusot jud.

when did i say naay high demand ilang vehicles?... ikaw lang nag-ingon "they cant sell their cars" which you cant prove.

another thing wa ka economic sense tan-awa pud pila $B of dollars na contribute sa GDP by Ford? so ok nimo mag sige close ang exporter? pasagdan lang gani ng gobyerno mosaka ang peso.

you speak as if disastrous sa part ng government to give incentives to Ford, from the Ramos admin pa gani ni sila nag start lol. Let me tell you mas dako pa nakuha ng goverment in taxes, tarifs, investment from Ford than ilang gihatag na incentives. ikaw na lang research ana.
Compare nimo sa Japanese companies taking advantage anang Jpepa.. over 300k pesos of tarifs per car supposively to be collected by the govt. naa pa gyud ilang auto parts. advantageous gyud sa ila.

kung tan-aw nimo sayop maghatag ug incentives.. then how come ok nimo ang almost a billion dollars worth of CCT per year wa gani nagka-tunga sa billion incentives sa Ford sunod they contribute more to the economy. paki explain beh hehehe. part owner sa poor ang govt ?

Prove lagi they cant sell their cars? hinay diay ilang export ? of course moingon gyud sila of other reasons alangan moingon sila sa truth.. disadvantage kaayo sila in staying here plus advantage ilang rivals.. its PR thing. nag post nako links about staying here if naay incentives.

and by the way, pareho diay nang 'almost zero goverment spending' ug 'government is not spending'?

dili gyud sila pareho
'almost zero goverment spending' mga 10 pesos or less lang gigasto sa govt overall hahaha
'govt is not spending' is zero

pero layo lang gyud ang "TRILLIONS of pesos govt spending" in reality compare to "almost zero goverment spending" thats makes it funny.


but about this quote nimo...
"now that government is spending" unsa man na? karon pa sila nag spend? hahaha

sige Mr. "almost zero government spending" nalang para fair lol

[estor_boot]

haha

1. why bother posting? to prove my point! Ford built a 36,000 output plant but use only 25% of it? ang operating cost anang plantaha, good for 25% ra pud? bad business. mangayog incentives sa government to cover up cost? manira na lang kay sa ang gobyerno pag gastoon, unsa ta, komunista?

2. lmao. billions of dollars na contribute sa GDP? Ford's cumulative vehicle export of 80,000 for 10 years is valued at $1B dollar ONLY. again, that's $1B for 10 years. one year total export sa Pinas is over $40B in 2011 nga 3% ra ang GDP growth. come on, do the math! use your 'business sense'. haha hilig gyud kag palabi oi.

3. kanang billions of dollars sa CCT (taympa, sure jud ka nga billions per year?) dili intawon na ilubong sa yuta sa mga beneficiary dodong, ipalit nag bugas so mabulahan ang namaligyag bugas ang mga sarisari store mangalipay ana. unya kanang tag-iya sa sarisari store dili na ilubong sa yuta ilang halin, ikompra na sad na nila. unya ang usa sa mga catch ana kinahanglan ang mga anak sa beneficiaries tua sa eskwelahan. so naa sad sya impact sa education. ang incentives sa Ford, asa padulong? when the Ford plant shut down kanang 250 employees dili man gani na majobless kay dalhon man na sa Ford kun asa sila motransfer. so, using your 'business sense' asa may dako ug economic impact beh? CCT or Ford incentive?

[PaYaSo]

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[Romeojin]

mamili lang gyud unsa iyang gusto i-respond... asa naman tong "they cant sell there cars" no comment? estor

haha

1. why bother posting? to prove my point! Ford built a 36,000 output plant but use only 25% of it? ang operating cost anang plantaha, good for 25% ra pud? bad business. mangayog incentives sa government to cover up cost? manira na lang kay sa ang gobyerno pag gastoon, unsa ta, komunista?

its an assembly plant duh.. alangan mo.run ang factory for full production when they decide to run at 25%. of course off na ang factory once they meet their quota. plus kanang operating/production cost is cover by the price of the car duh.. dili govt nagbuhi sa ila where did you get that stupid logic?

and then per car ang incentives kung gamay ang nahimo gamay ang incentives plus kanang IMO is use to off set the tarif paid for transporting the auto parts, nahulog lang gihapon ning tax break same sa japanese companies.
and you know pila lang ilang incentives per car? as far as i know $400 per car. small price to pay really.

study first before you post..

so imong business sense mo translate..

kung dili high demand - mag close na lang estor san ka pupulutin ana hahaha
record sales gani ang Ford --- wheres that "they cant sell their cars " ana lol

2. lmao. billions of dollars na contribute sa GDP? Ford's cumulative vehicle export of 80,000 for 10 years is valued at $1B dollar ONLY. again, that's $1B for 10 years. one year total export sa Pinas is over $40B in 2011 nga 3% ra ang GDP growth. come on, do the math! use your 'business sense'. haha hilig gyud kag palabi oi.

pila man pud imong computation sa price sa ilang vehicles P1M per car, mahal2x bya ang Ford. $1B lang?.. show computations.

sunod kanang $40B, pila pud na ka companies ? ? di katabang ang Ford sa export?.. pila man dapat quota per year? pila na.export sa toyota, mitsubishi, honda? naa man sila help from the govt.

plus GDP = The monetary value of all the finished goods and services produced within a country's borders in a specific time period.. dili lang about export ang GDP

3. kanang billions of dollars sa CCT (taympa, sure jud ka nga billions per year?) dili intawon na ilubong sa yuta sa mga beneficiary dodong, ipalit nag bugas so mabulahan ang namaligyag bugas ang mga sarisari store mangalipay ana. unya kanang tag-iya sa sarisari store dili na ilubong sa yuta ilang halin, ikompra na sad na nila. unya ang usa sa mga catch ana kinahanglan ang mga anak sa beneficiaries tua sa eskwelahan. so naa sad sya impact sa education. ang incentives sa Ford, asa padulong? when the Ford plant shut down kanang 250 employees dili man gani na majobless kay dalhon man na sa Ford kun asa sila motransfer. so, using your 'business sense' asa may dako ug economic impact beh? CCT or Ford incentive?

almost a $1B a year not over.. 38B peso if i recall correctly.

pila man ka VAT makuha nato sa sari2x store, tiange ug carrinderia ... dong ? pila bayad sa ilang income tax? nag.declare na sila tarong ug tax?
even mga pro poor congressmen moingon di sakto ang CCT. unsa ta komunista?

pila incentive sa Ford per car? less than 20k, right? pila tax sa car? pila tarifs pasud sa car parts? pila bayad pag export? pila job na provide? etc

not worth it.. ang Ford.. kinsa mo fill sa void left by Ford? ok atong export na ron?

Japanese car makers naay tax incentives via Jpepa.. the govt are not collecting over 300k pesos per car from them. unsa man corrupt ang Ford? not worth mo spend ang govt sa ila?


@payaso : wa pa gani nag 12 hours ako nawala... missing na dayun. di bya ko pareho nimo 24-7 naa dire lol.

[estor_boot]

mamili lang gyud unsa iyang gusto i-respond... asa naman tong "they cant sell there cars" no comment? estor

its an assembly plant duh.. alangan mo.run ang factory for full production when they decide to run at 25%. of course off na ang factory once they meet their quota. plus kanang operating/production cost is cover by the price of the car duh.. dili govt nagbuhi sa ila where did you get that stupid logic?

and then per car ang incentives kung gamay ang nahimo gamay ang incentives plus kanang IMO is use to off set the tarif paid for transporting the auto parts, nahulog lang gihapon ning tax break same sa japanese companies.
and you know pila lang ilang incentives per car? as far as i know $400 per car. small price to pay really.

study first before you post..

so imong business sense mo translate..

kung dili high demand - mag close na lang estor san ka pupulutin ana hahaha
record sales gani ang Ford --- wheres that "they cant sell their cars " ana lol



pila man pud imong computation sa price sa ilang vehicles P1M per car, mahal2x bya ang Ford. $1B lang?.. show computations.

sunod kanang $40B, pila pud na ka companies ? ? di katabang ang Ford sa export?.. pila man dapat quota per year? pila na.export sa toyota, mitsubishi, honda? naa man sila help from the govt.

plus GDP = The monetary value of all the finished goods and services produced within a country's borders in a specific time period.. dili lang about export ang GDP



almost a $1B a year not over.. 38B peso if i recall correctly.

pila man ka VAT makuha nato sa sari2x store, tiange ug carrinderia ... dong ? pila bayad sa ilang income tax? nag.declare na sila tarong ug tax?
even mga pro poor congressmen moingon di sakto ang CCT. unsa ta komunista?

pila incentive sa Ford per car? less than 20k, right? pila tax sa car? pila tarifs pasud sa car parts? pila bayad pag export? pila job na provide? etc

not worth it.. ang Ford.. kinsa mo fill sa void left by Ford? ok atong export na ron?

Japanese car makers naay tax incentives via Jpepa.. the govt are not collecting over 300k pesos per car from them. unsa man corrupt ang Ford? not worth mo spend ang govt sa ila?


@payaso : wa pa gani nag 12 hours ako nawala... missing na dayun. di bya ko pareho nimo 24-7 naa dire lol.

lol ako na man na natubag gud.

and please, don't take 'can't sell their cars' literally. of course, i don't mean Ford is making ZERO sales by that. aren't you a 'self-confessed businessman and expert of economy' para dili maka gets sa akong gipasabot?

ako lang e reiterate akong point kay layo na kaayo kag naabtan. naliman kag magkompyut tag pilay makuha nga VAT sa sarisari store. hahaha patauran kaha natog POS ang mga sarisari store noh? pareha sa mga department stores ug dagkong supplier where this sarisari store magkomprahaan para way eskapo, bayad gyud ug income tax ug VAT.

again, blaming PNoy for Ford to shutdown is wrong. it came from Ford itself it's because of their 'economic decision'. and that economic decision is not because of the $400 incentive they lost from the government. kagamay sad nilag utok nga kuhaan rag $400 mosira dayon? ana ra kagamay ilang ginansya?

[amingb]

Balik tang Manang Gloria nga Corrupt ...

Palace unfazed by dismissal of cases vs Gloria Arroyo | Inquirer News

Gi puhonan raman nila nis Gloria sa ilaha personal ambition .... ang Smuggling karon nga grabi ka rampant komusta naman .. Rice Smuggling, Car, etc... diri dapit nanguarta ang Pnoy admin kay dili kaau basted ... kay wala may project ...

[amingb]

Kining CCT program ni Pnoy nga pila kaha ni ka Billion ... napuno na sa controversy ... manggawas ang baho ani inig 2016 Presidential Election ... daghan napud ning balimbing ...

[Romeojin]

lol ako na man na natubag gud.



ako lang e reiterate akong point kay layo na kaayo kag naabtan. naliman kag magkompyut tag pilay makuha nga VAT sa sarisari store. hahaha patauran kaha natog POS ang mga sarisari store noh? pareha sa mga department stores ug dagkong supplier where this sarisari store magkomprahaan para way eskapo, bayad gyud ug income tax ug VAT.

again, blaming PNoy for Ford to shutdown is wrong. it came from Ford itself it's because of their 'economic decision'. and that economic decision is not because of the $400 incentive they lost from the government. kagamay sad nilag utok nga kuhaan rag $400 mosira dayon? ana ra kagamay ilang ginansya?

kataas sa ako rebuttal namili na pud. too many questions left unanswered.


kalayo lang pud ng "record breaking sales" in reality from "they cant sell their cars"
layo pud ang "trillions of pesos in govt spending" in reality from "almost zero govt spending"
naa pud ng quote which pabuhi ang Ford sa govt

estor, instead of saying " dont take my words literary" just say "dont take my words seriously, its full of stupidity"


wa ko nag ingon butangan POS ang tiange, carenderia, ug sari2x store. ako pasabot pila ka percent sa dole out nibalik sa govt? as compared sa tax, tariff , services na give ng Ford in exchange sa incentives.. diba mas better ang sa Ford? explain kung dili.
I will not generalize way bayad tarong ug tax ang sari2x store etc. naa man pud uban gabayad tarong.

it works well for Ford.. sa Ramos admin, Erap admin and GMA admin.. but when Pnoy came in power economic condition na ang reason lol dili na brought by Penoy ang cause ?

of course.. any incentives makatabang, we all know ma pass sa customer in some way ang savings. its like CCT pud na. but again mangita na pud ka ug twist to say dili hahaha as if kanang Jpepa wa nagpa cheap sa cars imported from Japan.


pila imo age estor? curious lang hahaha

[amingb]

Smuggling in the Philippines is at its worst under President Aquino's ... ang mga pro pnoy dili mo tuo ani kay si GMA jud .... basa

SMUGGLING ESTIMATES: ANNUAL AVERAGE

IN $ BILLIONS

Estrada (July 1998- Jan 2001) 3.1

Arroyo (Feb 2001 – June 2010) 3.8

Aquino (July 2010 – June 2012) 19.6




Aquino Asked To Address Rampant Rice Smuggling - Yahoo! News Philippines
Smuggling at its worst under Aquino | Inquirer Opinion
Smuggling still thrives despite Noynoy

http://www.philstar.com/business/201...-daang-matuwid

[asez]

well compare sa previous administration mas ok ra pod kaayo sa kang Pnoy noh.....