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  1. #51

    Thankfully, gi tubag na ni na issue sa previous post by a non-member. I hope you can keep an open mind and that someday you will be willing to join us. God bless, Bro.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer_and_Sickle View Post
    wala uroy mo nag suka sa inyong gi-buhat noh? "end the political dynasty" unya nag invite ug aquino?

  2. #52
    No way it can be done overnight, bro, I have to agree there. Many of us will probably be dead before we see our reforms in place. But we have to start somewhere. And we believe it starts with the establishment of real membership based political parties with an ideology. Once real parties are in place, it will be less likely that new administrations will just junk previous projects on a whim.

    Quote Originally Posted by elvandesantos View Post
    atleast 30-50years.. well, good luck with that as people here cant even wait for change. As every one who'll be sitting in malacanang has the highest tendency to stop previous admin projects... ThaTS a Fact.

    Tell me the plan can be done overnight and you just lost me there big time.

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by dubioz View Post
    No way it can be done overnight, bro, I have to agree there. Many of us will probably be dead before we see our reforms in place. But we have to start somewhere. And we believe it starts with the establishment of real membership based political parties with an ideology. Once real parties are in place, it will be less likely that new administrations will just junk previous projects on a whim.
    pinoys are always hard headed.. some says we are way too smart for almost anything. We really need "Iron Fist". We need to be tamed. kay kadaghanan diri sah atoh mga walay batasan, makita mana nimo bah... Naay datu nah abusado.. naa sad pobre nah hambogero ug uban pa.


    ...but whoooa.

    establishment of real membership based political parties with an ideology
    sounds communism to me.
    Last edited by elvandesantos; 02-19-2013 at 06:10 PM.

  4. #54
    LOL, no bro. Far from it. Christian Democracy is incompatible with Marxist ideology. In the link I posted earlier the .pdf file says:

    ..according to the Christian view of humanity, man is certainly not a mere indistinct member of a particular social class as expounded by marxism as he is unique. Moreover, in contrast to totalitarian ideologies, the Christian idea of humanity does not strive to form a ‘new man’ but accepts each person as he is including all his strengths, weaknesses and limitations.

    Quote Originally Posted by elvandesantos View Post
    ...but whoooa. sounds communism to me.

  5. #55
    Speaking about Bam Aquino, this is currently trending in Facebook:



    True?

  6. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by dubioz View Post
    LOL, no bro. Far from it. Christian Democracy is incompatible with Marxist ideology. In the link I posted earlier the .pdf file says:
    ohh i see, but if it involves religion then its not my ideal party. As I believe, church should be separated from politics.

    example: *** education: government is concern with population control plus in regards to health, education and the ability of the parents to support the size of the family... the church is concern on morality and so on and so forth.. too different..

    from comparing orange to apples,, now this party wants to create a orangeapples fruit.

    besides that. a simple mention of "christian" to a party does not really appeal all religion. Some Christian sect, thou really a christian sect doesnt want to be called a christian sect (lets get real here people). So there you go, the harmony your talking about in governance might not go well to others.

    well. I still wish you good luck here lad. every one deserves a dream. yours is yours. You do have good points.

  7. #57
    Oh no, no religion. Our origins are the social teachings, not religious teachings, of the Catholic church. Since the social teachings are acceptable to many faiths, including Islam, people of other religions, and even atheists, have joined us. That's why most Christian democrats now call themselves Centrist Democrats.

    Thank you very much for wishing us good luck.

    Quote Originally Posted by elvandesantos View Post
    ohh i see, but if it involves religion then its not my ideal party. As I believe, church should be separated from politics.

  8. #58
    social market economy? How do you encourage people to compete in your "free market" when you have a progressive tax scheme? How do you develop the free market?

  9. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by dubioz View Post
    Oh no, no religion. Our origins are the social teachings, not religious teachings, of the Catholic church. Since the social teachings are acceptable to many faiths, including Islam, people of other religions, and even atheists, have joined us. That's why most Christian democrats now call themselves Centrist Democrats.

    Thank you very much for wishing us good luck.
    Also, I have a problem with the word Centrist.... it connotes centralization. Democrats are liberals. Liberal in spending tax payers money.

    Unless it is part of the political platform to avoid legislating economic affairs, to decrease taxation, to decrease central government involvement in local government units, to outline clearly the limited authority of the national government, to avoid meddling with personal choices (good or bad) of its citizens, then that is clear that you are truly advocating free market and individual freedom. Other than that, you just want your ideals to replace that of the current. To covet the throne of power occupied by others.

  10. #60
    Looks like a lot of people here drank the ayn rand kool aid.

    Free market unbridled capitalism is as utopian as communism. get over it.

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