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    Quote Originally Posted by LytSlpr View Post
    That's just one tree from the entire forest, period. Intelligent people should not dignify this.
    Funny you should say that, when more Pinoys actually support the RH bill/law. So, who are the lone trees now?

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by diatabz View Post
    Funny you should say that, when more Pinoys actually support the RH bill/law. So, who are the lone trees now?

    ..and your point is?! from the voice of one priest to majority of filipinos? i can't connect the dots, i must be dense or something.

  3. #33
    In the concept of Separation of Church and State, this time the State Wins
    Now back to work... Bahugi natung baboy kay cge nag Iwik

  4. #34
    nay wla japon ka recover ang ubang pari...cgeg balik samokas RH oi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bricksand View Post
    Who says we are overpopulated? It's a lousy claim - in that sense.
    better lousy than stupid....

  6. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by æRLO View Post
    Nazi.

    And how are you sure your traits are considered "ideal" to be passed on for the next generation?

    Eugenics looks good in paper, but it is failed as a concept in practice.
    That's my opinion. No need to get all fired up.

    Anyway as for the traits, simple, if one has bad genes and there's a big possibility that the next generation is going to get a hereditary disease or be born with a defect then they should have themselves sterilized. This is also applicable to those people who cannot afford to have children but keep making babies who'll just grow up into criminals. Again, that's just my opinion and my belief. Peace!

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by sizzlingROBOT View Post
    Fr. Joel Tabora said RA 10354, whether people like it or not, is now a law.

    Wala na ta dapat storya.an ani!
    People can always talk about existing laws because democracy gives us the power to amend / repeal them.

  8. #38
    What I like about the Jesuits is that they are forward thinkers. I'm not saying the other sects are backward. I'm just saying that Jesuits are known for challenging the norm but still within the bounds of their religious beliefs and convictions.

    It is very clearly stated in the RH Law that we have the right to choose how to plan our family and using contraceptives is NOT the only way to do so. Yes, the law will make access to contraceptives more widespread but again, whether or not to use it is solely our choice. It might be out there and distributed to us by clinics and health centers, but if a couple chooses to plan their families using for instance, the rhythm method, then it is their choice. You can talk to poor and struggling families out there who have a lot of children and let me tell you that, a lot, if not most, will tell you that if they could have fewer children, they would have chosen to do so. We need to control our population. The RH Law is not the ONLY answer to population control but it is PART of the solution - one that we badly need at this point.

    The RH Law further stipulates that abortion is STILL illegal. This is in our Constitution. I do not understand why people think that the RH Law is pro-abortion. It merely states that women who seek medical assistance due to complications arising from abortions - legally or illegally done - will receive the help they need. They will not be turned away.

    Lastly, what's wrong with contraceptives? The Catholic church believes that endorsing their use will make the public more promiscuous, that people will engage in intercourse only for pleasure (thereby making it lust and not for the purpose of procreating) but then again, aren't the people already doing so? I think it's better to educate the people on the proper use of these contraceptives. We have a lot of unwed mothers and children born out of wedlock. What does the Catholic church say about that?

  9. #39
    It's not about kung law na or not, or what an individual decides. Ulimately the RC is pro-life. Sayop ang pari. Maypa wa nalang siya mag pari.

  10. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by glasswingedfaerie View Post
    What I like about the Jesuits is that they are forward thinkers. I'm not saying the other sects are backward. I'm just saying that Jesuits are known for challenging the norm but still within the bounds of their religious beliefs and convictions.

    It is very clearly stated in the RH Law that we have the right to choose how to plan our family and using contraceptives is NOT the only way to do so. Yes, the law will make access to contraceptives more widespread but again, whether or not to use it is solely our choice. It might be out there and distributed to us by clinics and health centers, but if a couple chooses to plan their families using for instance, the rhythm method, then it is their choice. You can talk to poor and struggling families out there who have a lot of children and let me tell you that, a lot, if not most, will tell you that if they could have fewer children, they would have chosen to do so. We need to control our population. The RH Law is not the ONLY answer to population control but it is PART of the solution - one that we badly need at this point.

    The RH Law further stipulates that abortion is STILL illegal. This is in our Constitution. I do not understand why people think that the RH Law is pro-abortion. It merely states that women who seek medical assistance due to complications arising from abortions - legally or illegally done - will receive the help they need. They will not be turned away.

    Lastly, what's wrong with contraceptives? The Catholic church believes that endorsing their use will make the public more promiscuous, that people will engage in intercourse only for pleasure (thereby making it lust and not for the purpose of procreating) but then again, aren't the people already doing so? I think it's better to educate the people on the proper use of these contraceptives. We have a lot of unwed mothers and children born out of wedlock. What does the Catholic church say about that?
    oh i so Agree with this. Nicely explained and I've always been a Jesuit fan. Ad majorem Dei Gloriam. If only the next Pope would be Jesuit. hehehe..

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