Do you think Philippines can still become rich/Industrialized?

[Jap]

If we don't start from ourselves, then who should do it?

Being positive does not always mean denial from the reality. It's about being positive finding a solution (there is always one. that is if we think positive) than wasting so much effort criticising.

Technically, the government exists because of the people. We don't look at the government as "they." This body consists of the people. One of us. Filipinos. If they are corrupt (which I strongly agree), then perhaps we should also look at the rest of us; how about those who don't belong in the government, our collegues, our superiors, those working with other private companies? There is still quite a large corruption in there.

The people has the power to replace the corrupt leaders. we've seen that. Remember Marcos and Erap? But we're still struggling, aren't we? So who should we blame now? The government whom we chose? Or the peolple who chose them (which is by the way, us)?

So I'd say, I'd agree with what they've earlier suggested here: Proper mindset, right attitude, and DISCIPLINE.

[Ms.Beau]

gut feeling lang ni nako: mo prosper jud ang pinas. mao gani naa pa ko diwi

[Jap]

One more thing I forgot to mention... STOP BEING LAZY and don't wait for help from the government. That's not how it works...even here in EU.

[pinoytayo]

One more thing I forgot to mention... STOP BEING LAZY and don't wait for help from the government. That's not how it works...even here in EU.

Tell it to the people in most squatters area hehe or have you forgotten that most of the Filipinos live in miserable lives? With little income per day aguroy gutom always. Your lucky you are living and working abroad. What about for the unfortunate Filipinos eating once a day kay ang mga politiko nato are all SELFISH?!

[Jap]

Tnuod jud na bro. dli ta kahuna-huna ug tarong kung gigutom ta. morag lami kaonon nalang kanang nangaway nimo sa? hahaha! usa pod na sa nakapaet ba. no proper nutrition.

but just to give hope to our fellows, germany was in great loss after WW 2. Guba mga infrastructures and the people were exhausted from war. they were in great debt kay gipa-compensate man sa ila kadtong ila mga gi-occupy. but look at them now. they are ranked world's top 3 when it comes to economic growth. apparently because they were backed by the US, France, UK, and Russia after the war? So were we. In fact, we were asia's top 2 (next to Japan) when it comes to economic growth after the war. Somehow, thanks to the US. UK was in debt too during the war. nangutang baya sila sa US during WW 2. Japan was in great loss also like germany. hangtod karon nagsige pa man sila pamayad sa ila mga damages from war. how about south korea? china? singapore? and even malaysia? what happened to our "asia's sunniest" PAL? well, that was just in the 70's. I could say that marcos was to blame for these, but he was already overthrown more than 20 yrs ago.

i perfectly agree with u, selfish jud kasagarn nato mga politico. but we also have a choice. either we say "my life is miserable and it's hopeless since my government wouldn't help me" or better say "my life is miserable so i must find a way to make it improve." Better said than done, isn't it? hahaha!

well, kaon sa ko kay napasmo na ko dri. hehe! cheers.

[cebutech]

We should start from ourselves. BIG WORDS again. Are you trying to say that we still don't have the right mindset? that we don't have the right attitude? that we don't have discipline? Let me ask you. Why do we work? Why do we pay our taxes? Why did we go to school or even did our best (ok probably not the best) to finish school in the first place? why do you see vendors on the street? entrepreneurs popping up everywhere? Analyze first before you repeat those elementary phrases pls. co'z most of us know about those already and that's also the reason why a lot have left this country. They realized that those formula aren't enough. Cut us some slack and don't assume that we're lazy. Filipinos are great workers! but you see no matter how dedicated you are with your work. no matter how religiously you pay your taxes, no matter how much you do to improve and help others by contributing to charity etc., this country will never improve because of the very important barrier most positive thinkers have been avoiding to admit.

Here's another elementary phrase for you. "Practice what you preach". Or maybe a little analogy would be better for you to really understand the importance of having good leaders. Did you know what happened to subic before when the US bases left this country? For the moment they felt panic co'z most of their income came from those americans. If not for their sincere leader, their region would probably be in chaos now because of the collapse of their economy. But you see, it takes a sincere leader to really unite the people. Because of that sincere leader, there were a lot of volunteers helping each other to improve and main peace and order. People helped each other trying to promote their place as a tourist spot. People at that time really believed that they have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Those are some of the important factors that make people cooperate. Sincere leader and that sense that you've got nothing to lose and everything to gain.

We're now 91 million in population. yes, it's the people who elected those corrupt leaders and you should know why that happened. It's mainly because of corruption. Because of our leaders selfishly spending our hard earn tax money, this country can't simply provide quality education to those millions of Filipino people. This is not criticizing. I'm just stating a FACT! If you think our leaders are not corrupt, then you are definitely in denial. Are you trying to say that you're smarter than those people or business organizations from other countries who are in the position to really assess our country in terms of corruption? The leaders of this country have the power to steer this country to a better path. It's the leaders of this country who are in control of our financial resource. It is they who have the resource to provide education to the masses so that those millions of people won't yield to deceptions and temptations offered by those corrupt politicians. Do you really think you can just go to a squatter area and say vote this person because he/she's sincere. Have this kind of mindset etc.? Crap. Take out 500 pesos and they'll be more than willing to listen to you for that day. Hell, even 50 pesos would do the job. Poverty and deprivation of quality education are direct results of corruption. And without quality education, don't expect sincere leaders running this country in the near future.

Ok so back to reality and looking at a bigger picture now. How can you convince the Filipino people to really unite if corruption is rampant and all they see are those insincere and corrupt leaders? How can you convince the Filipino people that we're in times of crisis if they see those politicians driving luxury cars and that everytime there's a new models of certain brands of car, you can see those in our streets? How can you convince the Filipino people that TAX money are spent for good when they know how much salary and bonuses those people in the government are receiving and that every now and then, certain scandalous projects would pop up? We all know about pork barrels given to our lawmakers. Do you think that the Filipino are convinced that those millions of pesos from pork barrels are spent for the benefit of the Filipino people? With all the scandals and lousy projects the government got itself into, how can you convince the Filipino people to really work hard when they know that the hardship they'll have to endure just to help the economy is futile? How can you improve our economy if the government encourages import from basic commodities such as rice to even luxury cars? If you want this country to improve its economy, we should export products... not import. the sad thing is that we're only good at exporting people... by driving our citizens away because of poverty. If you want to make the people know that their sacrifices are not in vain, show them the results of their labor.

How can you convince our leaders to realize the effects of corruption in our country if you avoid the issue of corruption? Or if you just decide to keep your mouth shut even though you know what those corrupt politicians are doing with taxpayer's money? Do you know that's one of the reason those politicians can boldly rob this country? Go ahead and continue shutting your eyes and mouth and continue hoping and trying. It's like filling a bucket with water hoping to fill it up and at the same same time ignoring the holes at the bottom of the bucket. Talking about efforts in vain.

So, instead of telling people to start from themselves, to have a positive mindset and all those elementary phrases blah blah... what
can you do to solve the corruption issues? You can have a proper mindset, right attitude and discipline but try to realize the population. You'll need money to educate those millions. Those millions who are living in poverty. Those millions who can't even afford to have decent meals. Those education-deprived millions need to know how to be responsible and if you say it has to start from us.. including you, then i hope you'll forget about the tax you pay and give more from your income to come up with free education that's supposedly provided by this government co'z reality speaking, most of us here don't have that luxury.

[*dudes*]

according to a documentary i seen on tv, corruption is embedded on our culture and on our system of our society, how bad it is, so change starts from each of us, starts from within

[pinoytayo]

Tnuod jud na bro. dli ta kahuna-huna ug tarong kung gigutom ta. morag lami kaonon nalang kanang nangaway nimo sa? hahaha! usa pod na sa nakapaet ba. no proper nutrition.

but just to give hope to our fellows, germany was in great loss after WW 2. Guba mga infrastructures and the people were exhausted from war. they were in great debt kay gipa-compensate man sa ila kadtong ila mga gi-occupy. but look at them now. they are ranked world's top 3 when it comes to economic growth. apparently because they were backed by the US, France, UK, and Russia after the war? So were we. In fact, we were asia's top 2 (next to Japan) when it comes to economic growth after the war. Somehow, thanks to the US. UK was in debt too during the war. nangutang baya sila sa US during WW 2. Japan was in great loss also like germany. hangtod karon nagsige pa man sila pamayad sa ila mga damages from war. how about south korea? china? singapore? and even malaysia? what happened to our "asia's sunniest" PAL? well, that was just in the 70's. I could say that marcos was to blame for these, but he was already overthrown more than 20 yrs ago.

i perfectly agree with u, selfish jud kasagarn nato mga politico. but we also have a choice. either we say "my life is miserable and it's hopeless since my government wouldn't help me" or better say "my life is miserable so i must find a way to make it improve." Better said than done, isn't it? hahaha!

well, kaon sa ko kay napasmo na ko dri. hehe! cheers.

Well Philippines used to be the number 2 in ASIA. When was that? 80 years ago? Hehe. Before that guy who we call "hero" that he'd rather see Philippines run like HELL than HEAVEN with AMERICANS? I think that guy who we considered a HERO is really from HELL because we are really in HELL at present. We cannot really compare to the German's because they think the GERMAN way. Filipinos think FILIPINOS way and what are those? Look at our past presidents hehe. Pro POOR kunohay but they are living in an extravagant LIFE and they even don't want foreign investors to invest in our country (maybe the current administration is changing that??) because they DON'T want a competition. Look at ERAP, PRO poor (mao na mga poor ka dali ra mailad) pero ang mga mistresses may mga mansions hahay. While most of the Filipinos are living under the bridge and mostly along the streets. So miserable.

Change will not START from us I think kay mga gahi atong mga head hehe unless it will be implemented by PUSH ug e PRESSURE jud mga pinoys. Unless there will be a new creation. Unless mag war napud ta. Unless mag civil war ta but who knows really when. I pity my fellow Filipinos kay bisag unsahon di jud ta muasenso. Maybe in billion years time basin pa but not in thousands or million years hehe.

[gerard]

Just elimanate corruption...
and we can do it...

[ponsoy]

With our national pastime focused in Politics and prevalent corruption in Gov't: not in our lifetime. Manglangyaw na lang kay mausab pa ang OFW sa gawas.