Are we saved by faith alone, or do we need works, too?

[%75life4Him]

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ako ra gi share nga di ta kinahanglan mag lalis anang mga pagtoo parehas ra ta

Ambot kung parehas ba jud ta.

[Zhael]

have faith and must have perseverance to do what is right and just. unsaon na ang faith kung ikaw ngbuhat og daotan sa isig kasilingan.

kung ikw nisalig og wala kay gibuhat, taphaw ra au

[%75life4Him]

hahaiz...you guys just simply misunderstood each other...
Slabs was trying to explain that Faith and action for salvation 'casue if one has the faith therefore naa jud nay action...
which is sakto pud...

kang 75%Life pud, Faith ra jud. but not literally nga faith lang nya humana
kay if one has the faith, then it should be seen through that person's actions...
so technically speaking, FAITH ra jud ang kinahanglan...sakto pud..

Noy....Slabs' point is that -you must have work with faith to be saved-
my point is salvation can only be received by faith alone according to the bible (please do not omit "according to the bible" that is not my own teaching about salvation)

but in order for us to know if that Faith is genuine, we need to check our actions...mao pud di pasabut ni slabs sa faith and action...

therefore PAREHA ra mo ug punto...so no need tawn mag lalis...di malipay ang Ginoo ani atong kalaki...

sola fide is both literally and not literally...

Literally: cause though it is the actions that determines our faith, it is still the Faith that counts..otherwise if the faith is dead, there will be no actions..

not literally:'cause we all know that with a living Faith, we can't help but to burst with good works..

The issue here is not what is wrong or right but what is biblical and what is not biblical.
If you have notice I have been quoting verses even from start.

[slabdans]

According to the bible faith without action is the correct way to salvation. Unless someone could present here and explain why according the bible.

time sa bro ha..dba ikaw ray nag una2x ug sulti ani? "Unless someone could present here and explain why according the bible."karon nahmo na noon kong OT ani hehehe

[slabdans]

Sakto jud kinahanglan jud tang mubuhat pero dili para maluwas kung dili tungod kay luwas na. I hope gisabot ni nimo.

mao na ni ron...luwas na man d ie ko mang rape na lang ko ani hahaha

[slabdans]

Noy....Slabs' point is that -you must have work with faith to be saved-
my point is salvation can only be received by faith alone according to the bible (please do not omit "according to the bible" that is not my own teaching about salvation)


The issue here is not what is wrong or right but what is biblical and what is not biblical.
If you have notice I have been quoting verses even from start.

time sa bro...unsa man di ie difinatioon nimo ug faith and salvation?

not biblical di ie? engon man gud unless dunay bblical verse ug explaination sa previous post nimo

[noy]

@slabs and 75%Life
basta, sa akong pagbasa sa inyong mga post..prehas ra mo ug punto ug pasabut
wala lang mu nagkasabut kay lahi2x mo ug approach..

ang kang slabs, kay kung naay faith naa jud nay action..sakto man pud diba?
kang 75%Life, Faith ra jud importante kay mufollow ra man gud nang action kung tinuod ang faith. sakto pud jud...
ug labaw sa tanan both are Biblical tawn guys...ay na mu paglalis...hehehe...

alegre kaau ta tan.awun kay puro ra ta Christiano ga lalis...

[slabdans]

Ambot kung parehas ba jud ta.

muragv di gyud ta parehas

[slabdans]

@slabs and 75%Life
basta, sa akong pagbasa sa inyong mga post..prehas ra mo ug punto ug pasabut
wala lang mu nagkasabut kay lahi2x mo ug approach..

ang kang slabs, kay kung naay faith naa jud nay action..sakto man pud diba?
kang 75%Life, Faith ra jud importante kay mufollow ra man gud nang action kung tinuod ang faith. sakto pud jud...
ug labaw sa tanan both are Biblical tawn guys...ay na mu paglalis...hehehe...

alegre kaau ta tan.awun kay puro ra ta Christiano ga lalis...

sori bro noy ha...pero suwayi ug back read iya mga post diba faith ra gyud no need na ang work...

mao gani nai oh

According to the bible faith without action is the correct way to salvation. Unless someone could present here and explain why according the bible.

[slabdans]

Sakto jud kinahanglan jud tang mubuhat pero dili para maluwas kung dili tungod kay luwas na. I hope gisabot ni nimo.

so kinahanglan gyud ug buhat para maluwas noh?

aw time sa.. unsa pa man di ie buhaton?