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  1. #5061

    Quote Originally Posted by dartzed View Post
    hmmmmmmmm by your statements I believe you are indirectly saying perhaps God have some human traits after all, though we see it quite different way..

    Yes you have a point nga naa jud limits ato views for now maybe sooner or later we humans can work it out..

    maybe perhaps soon ma acquire na sa Man ang wisdom of God..
    perhaps we would get the full understanding on things in God's appointed time, sa katapusang adlaw..
    kung mahiusa na ta balik Niya
    but to be able to grasp or acquire His Wisdom on the same Level, or even in a significant level
    i seriously doubt it sis kay we have to be god ourselves usa..hehehe

    regarding God having human traits, i think it should be the other way around..
    it is us who have acquired His traits, these traits are visible when we do acts of Love.
    mao in His image and Likeness otherwise it would have in our image and likeness.
    Last edited by noy; 01-29-2013 at 07:41 PM.

  2. #5062
    @ Tax exemption sa church

    by Law the church is considered as a non-profit org or a charitable organization...
    mao walay tax, and though namaligya ang church ug mga books ug uban pa...
    the proceeds would go to the church's funds or to charities...
    church need funds for maintenance,supplies and charities...not for personal gain.
    though naa juy mangorakot pud..hehehe but still the church is considered as a non profit org
    so mao walay tax..

  3. #5063
    nganung dominggo man ang adlaw igpapahulay sa mga katoliko nga sabado man dapat kun basihan nato ang bibliya?

  4. #5064
    Quote Originally Posted by Boyen View Post
    nganung dominggo man ang adlaw igpapahulay sa mga katoliko nga sabado man dapat kun basihan nato ang bibliya?
    dli na siya sabado bro...gibasi lang na sa mga scientipico nga sunday ang adlaw sa igpapahulay, pero dili ta sure kung sunday ba gyud to or unsang adlawa kay wala may kalendayo sauna
    Last edited by slabdans; 01-30-2013 at 07:27 AM.

  5. #5065
    hehehe that's my boy..

  6. #5066
    Quote Originally Posted by Boyen View Post
    nganung dominggo man ang adlaw igpapahulay sa mga katoliko nga sabado man dapat kun basihan nato ang bibliya?
    The word Sabbath in the Bible does not mean Saturday.

  7. #5067
    hahah. domingo raman daghan tao jd, daghang manimba... daghang

  8. #5068
    Nang gawas na ang mga QUESTIONS meant to DISCREDIT the RCC... I am really sorry but ang approach ninyo medyo trying hard ra . One , because mga bahaw ni siya na questions, I am confident na gipangutana lang ni to check if mga RCC diri sa forums knows it , second , mga questions na kabalo namo sa answers but expects another answer that suits the individuals biases and pre program satisfaction and lastly , intawn wala ra gyud naka abot sa ihap satudlo s aisa nako ka kamot ang question that are SENSIBLE baga.

    Although mao ni kagawsan , I will try to answer your inquiries kuno in a manner where answers are rooted from the guidelines / perimeters and within the confines of the teachings of the RCC unless na answer na gani , betetr backread na lang. If dili mo ma satisfy , seriously its not my problem nor lost , inyoha na kay magbuot man gud mo unsay answer lol.

    @PSYCHOLOGIC ....

    ug why intil now novena is gpractice paman? wa man jd kaha na sa bible...

    mao btaw mangutana kos mga suhito dri mga bros. ug cge tag praktis anang rosary na wa man d i na gtudlo sa bible.

    unya asa mana gitudlo ang novena bro or ang pag rosario? kinsa ng tudlo ana ?

    ahh.. wala ko kabalo unsa to verse ha but its says ang prayer daw d mag balik2x. unya pila gud na ka our father and hail mary ang usa ka misterio...
    Backread , look for the discussion about REPETITION of PRAYERS.

    para asa man d i na ang offertory paingon bro? ang bayad sa misa, bunyag kasal ug uban pa?
    Not limited to but to include the necessities of the presider , maintenance of the place , wage for the workers , utility bills etc.

    hahah. domingo raman daghan tao jd, daghang manimba... daghang
    Wrong . Kakita ka pila kabuok manimba sa Sto. Rosario ug sa Basilica del Santo Nino taga Myerkules ug Byernes ? Lol.

    @COBRAKING ....

    nganong gitawag manang holy father or santo papa ang popeunsa may nka holy niya??
    Backread , look for the discussion about the POPE and why he is INFALLIBLE and the succession traced back all the way to St. Peterand why PRIEST are addressed as FATHERS.

    nganong mokalawat man ang mo simba??pero dli lgi hatagan ug wine ang ni kalawat??y mana??
    Backread gihapon bai , naa didto ang answers to questions pertaining to the EUCHARISTIC CELEBRATIONS during the HOLY MASS.

    @BOYEN ....

    sauna diko himasa aning bible... sa dihang nagka interest kog basa naa koy mga nakita sa bible nga mo contradict sa catholic belief,,, kung mangutana ko sa pari tubagon raman kog verbal even sa mga head sa katekisis mao nang mamasin ko basin dia nako makit an ang mga tubag pero ang rule man kaha ani nga thread dinhi ky 1question and 1answer is enaf so aw ato nalang ning sundonbut im telling you dat it doesnt satify me and it doesnt answer my question
    That would be so great on your behalf when you say naa kay nakita na CONTRADICTIONS yet you are referring it as a CONFUSION . Yes , dakong YES kaayo na bai .... it does answer your question , but true it does not satisfy you kay naa man kay kaugalingon na answer reserved for that question . That would make you a HERETIC kung nag claim ka na RCC ka and second , ang rule diri is to answer a question and not debate about it , ayaw usba kay gapasagad ka ug pataka.

    nganung iglisya katolika romana man ang name sa relihiyon katoliko,,,, nga wala man sa bible?
    kun inyong tubag tungod kay gikan sa roma ug sila ang powerful nga manggugubat sa una ayaw nalang itubag kay kahibalo nako anah,,,

    cge exist ang christianity by the time of jesus christ bro.... pero nganung roman catholic man,,, nganung dili naman lang christian, or galili catholic, or jerusalem catholic, or israel catholic. or what ever bro?
    First , let me ask you , why are you always expecting an answer that are biblical whenin fact , kung kabalo man gali ka , The ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH are abound , guided , taught , tied up , etc to the SACRED SCRIPTURES and SACRED TRADITION.

    Second , wala ka kabalo ana ngano gi tawag man siya ug ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH na contradicting man kaha sa word na CATHOLIC which means UNIVERSAL . Powerful na mangugubat ? Hehehehehe .... ga pasagad na pod ka ug pataka unya ug tubagon ka di nimo dawaton , pag tsur kuno diha dodong Boyen.

    cge exist ang christianity by the time of jesus christ bro.... pero nganung roman catholic man,,, nganung dili naman lang christian, or galili catholic, or jerusalem catholic, or israel catholic. or what ever bro?
    If we follow your reasoning , asa man pod makita sa BIBLIYA na mao ang angay ipangalan ? Dili ba ganahan ka ug BIBLICAL ?

    mga pope og mga leader nga pari cguro nagpauso anah bro,,, prayer man japon nah so ok ra kana kay para man japon nah sa ginoo ug dili man makadaot sa ginoo kana nga prayer bro
    And here is a man who claimed to be RCC. I thought RCC ka ?

    nganung dominggo man ang adlaw igpapahulay sa mga katoliko nga sabado man dapat kun basihan nato ang bibliya?
    Asa makita sa bibliya na angay na SABADO ang SABBATH ? Point it out to me uns ana verse makita ang word na SATURDAY or SABADO.

    SIODENZ ....

    But i thought Catholics claim nga kadtung gi ingun sa Bibliya nga pagatukuron ko dinhi akong iglesia mao tong katoliko? naa man gud mu claim ma trace nimu ang religion sa katoliko sa kang Jesus pa jud nga gitukod. So iyang pangutana is nganu katoliko romano man ang name if ma trace man kaha kang Jesus, why Not Christians ang name nga mao man kaha nay original gikan ni kristo.
    It does not only follow what was written in the bible but of historical accounts also. This is not a claim , its an ESTABLISHED FACT. Mao bitaw in the table / timeline of Christianity , ROMAN CATHOLICISM is founded by Jesus Christ in the 4th century. Pero people specially the FUNDAMENTALIST would discredit this because they rely on the word ROMAN and CATHOLIC , what is factual , the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH started as a ONE , HOLY , CATHOLIC and APOSTOLIC which are the EARLY CHRISTIANS. It is only rightful and correct to say the least na gikan ang PROTESTANTE sa KATOLIKO as a break away group that woul ld include also the other groups ie SCHISM'S , EASTERN CATHOLIC CHURCH , for all we know and acknowledge , si Martin Luther isa ka KATOLIKO and an AUGUSTINIAN MONK pod . Christianity is the religion , the rest of the denominations was only a subgroup of different approaches and beliefs like the reformist and born agains. ROMAN CATHOLICISM traces back its roots to the APOSTLES also where St. Peter is the first POPE , the rest would just be group founded/started by HUMAN BEINGS only 500 years ago.

    Way protestant group ni Claim nga ma trace ilang religion sa mga original tinun an ni Kristo, gikan sa Bibliya nuon. Protestantism was born to protest some of the Catholic practices during that time. But if I will claim nga ma trace akong grupo ngadtu sa original nga tinun an ni kristo, dapat naa juy reference di bah? naunhna na nuon sa Iglesia ni Kristo
    Pero daghan ang ni claim na sila ra ang maluwas lol. or kung di ka apil nila di ka maluwas . When PROTESTANTISM started it in the 16th century bai , it was an ATTEMPT , take note ha , an attampt to reform the CATHOLIC CHURCH for reasons known only to them . When they say , they PROTEST because of certain practices of the church that time , it is really a narrow reasoning because aside from protesting , ngano daghan man sila gi DUNGAG ug naay gi KUHA , mao I firmly believed na angay unta ngalan is REFORMISM instead of the more known PROTESTANTISM.

    Let me ask you this , outside the RCC .... why are there about 35,000 plus kabuok different CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS with different translations and interpretations against each other . That only shows there is no UNITY within thus acknowledges the absence of characteristics of the TRUE CHURCH , being ONE , HOLY , CATHOLIC and APOSTOLIC .

    SO if I decided today, this very moment mag tukod ug grupo na sukwahi sa RCC but as long as within the confines of the bible bahalag kamuritsing ang translation and interpretation , matawag diay na nato ug OK ra ?

    Heck INC even start in the 20th century and they claim , FELIX MANALO is a MESSIAH or PROPHET ? Hehehehe .... even ikaw mo tingsi na lang after hearing it.

    Question, Nganu di man or Wa man nagbayad ug Tax ang Simbahan(Katoliko ug uban pa) sa Gobyerno? Gusto ko makahibalo sa side sa Katoliko kay para ninyu man ni nga Thread.

    Kini bang balaod sa walay Tax, naay nakahibalo ani kanus a ni nagsugod? kinsay nagpasiugda ani? ang simbahan ba or gobyerno...
    As what we all know , by the constitution and law , all the entities that are NON PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS are excluded or tax excempt mao bitaw patuyang ni ubang mga POLITICIANS nato ug himo ug kandaiyang CHARITIES kuno pero recycled ra diay ang kwarta nila aron di mabuhisan . So it is safe to say na because of the implementation , the church only followed and respected the LAW of the LAND.

    @NADINE EIDLOTH ...

    ang uban nga sikta sa simbahan tanan makainon sa bino with each church naa little disposable glass.
    Sikta ? Kins aman ni sila ? Unsay ngalan ?
    Last edited by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40; 01-30-2013 at 10:52 AM.
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  9. #5069
    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    @NADINE EIDLOTH ...



    Sikta ? Kins aman ni sila ? Unsay ngalan ?
    Sa Protestante bro, once a month ang kalawat eat all you can.

    bitaw, naay bino ug pan kada tawo.

  10. #5070
    Next question ..... kana wala na gi balik ha otherwise BACKREAD lang una ta.
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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