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  1. #4741

    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    @ THE SUN KING ...

    Lisod pilian ang 2 ug is alang gyud because both needs to co exist kay both compliments each other hehehe.
    @SPRING...

    Yep, lisud bitaw mamili, but since other forumers here argue na Bible only jud daw. Others decide its the Church as the final authority.

    But for me, its the CHURCH, according to the BIBLE.

    Im just curious what others has to say on this.

  2. #4742
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSunKing View Post
    Which is the pillar and foundation of truth?

    THE CHURCH OR THE BIBLE?



    Choose one and explain. Cge go!

    i choose BIBLE kay ang CHURCH nag follow man sa BIBLE

  3. #4743
    I think this scattering of beliefs is still essential and in some way beneficial sa growth sa atong religious system,. parihas rani atong nahitabo katong nag merge and sun ug ang smart, ni reklamo ang globe, 'coz there should be no monopoly on business 'coz otherwise there would be no competition, mas naay improvement if naay kompetinsya,. i think mao ni nahitabo sauna katong gamay rkay ang religion, ang simbahan nahimo nga autokratiko sa ilang pamaagi, ug wlay mahimo ang mga tawo kay wala may laing religion sila nga kapadulngan..

    mao nang karon ang Catholic church is iimproving in every respects, kay kong i maintain nila ilang pagka autokratiko ug mga kinaraan nga idelohiya mahutdan sila'g parokyano kay mamalhin sa lain., nyahaha..

  4. #4744
    i second demotion

  5. #4745
    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    I think this scattering of beliefs is still essential and in some way beneficial sa growth sa atong religious system,. parihas rani atong nahitabo katong nag merge and sun ug ang smart, ni reklamo ang globe, 'coz there should be no monopoly on business 'coz otherwise there would be no competition, mas naay improvement if naay kompetinsya,. i think mao ni nahitabo sauna katong gamay rkay ang religion, ang simbahan nahimo nga autokratiko sa ilang pamaagi, ug wlay mahimo ang mga tawo kay wala may laing religion sila nga kapadulngan..

    mao nang karon ang Catholic church is iimproving in every respects, kay kong i maintain nila ilang pagka autokratiko ug mga kinaraan nga idelohiya mahutdan sila'g parokyano kay mamalhin sa lain., nyahaha..
    In short .... it is bad for business hehehehe .

    Bitaw back to the topic guys .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  6. #4746
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSunKing View Post
    @SPRING...

    Yep, lisud bitaw mamili, but since other forumers here argue na Bible only jud daw. Others decide its the Church as the final authority.

    But for me, its the CHURCH, according to the BIBLE.

    Im just curious what others has to say on this.
    Sa ako sad opinion, both the Church and bible coz they compliment each other... For gray areas, the church discretion through the guidance of the holy spirit is necessary but the Bible should be the fixed reference for those explicit teachings and doctrines like the Trinity, salvation by faith, etc. The word of God doesn't change....people change. The complete revelation of God to man is written in the bible, so its important that the church (believers) should be in keeping with the teachings of the bible....otherwise man will always fall short and will distort the truth.

    Matthew 2435
    Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
    Last edited by Breakeven; 01-20-2013 at 11:53 PM.

  7. #4747
    @mods spring

    With due respect, please allow me to answer and share my point also.

    Mao na ang angay gyud unta ... the right to CO EXIST and LIVE in PEACE .
    I totally agree with you on this mods, this is supposedly the situation ONLY if nothing has gone wrong in the garden of Eden. But what we have now is the effect of Satan’s rebellion and the disobedience of Adam and Eve. But still we have that eternal hope when we will be with our Saviour in eternity. Wala na jud problema nga ma experience pa

    Dili mafulfill diri sa kalibutan ang gilong nato nga universal peace, unless evil will be uprooted.

    That is why Blessed JP2 elevated the nature of ECUMENISM by involving not only CHRISTIAN DENOMINATIONS but MAJOR RELIGIONS as well like ISLAM , GREEK ORTHODOX , BUDDHISM , HINDUISM , SHEIKHISM etc.
    Im sure this one is a very critical issue and needs a different thread. In fact gamay ra akong nasabtan ani.
    Sa akoa sad, Ecumenical movement is good kana kung worldwide brotherhood ang goal. Usa pud, nindot usahon ang kalibutan first kung gihatagan priority ang kaluwasan sa kalag and let the people hear and understand about the truth of Jesus Christ and the gospel of salvation.

    If the truth and our salvation is involved, for me that is very impossible to attain. Because all established major religions are claiming to have the truth and aiming towards global superiority. Unless there will be a force nga magpugos sa tanang taw to be subjected sa usa ka spiritual world leader (which is prophesied in the book of revelation regarding the coming reign of the antichrist), kana lahi nasad na nga istorya. I am not saying the Pope is the antichrist.

    Lahi man gud ang Christianity kay it always refer to Jesus Christ as the head ug dili magpasakop ni bisan kinsa when it comes to spirituality.

    Now back to the topic .... anyone here has questions about MIRACLES ? I would love to talk about MIRACLES but it has to start somewhere else and as a question.
    This is a nice topic also mods, ako daghan sad ko gusto mahibaloan about aning miracles like naghilak nga statue, apparitions, etc…

    May the love of God reigns in our hearts!
    Last edited by Breakeven; 01-21-2013 at 12:22 AM.

  8. #4748
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSunKing View Post
    Which is the pillar and foundation of truth?

    THE CHURCH OR THE BIBLE?



    Choose one and explain. Cge go!



    Quote Originally Posted by Boyen View Post
    i choose BIBLE kay ang CHURCH nag follow man sa BIBLE
    I think OT ni hehehe dili man ni para diri nga thread guro
    Last edited by slabdans; 01-21-2013 at 12:29 AM.

  9. #4749
    balik ta sa original topic ani nga thread

  10. #4750
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    This is a nice topic also mods, ako daghan sad ko gusto mahibaloan about aning miracles like naghilak nga statue, apparitions, etc…

    May the love of God reigns in our hearts!
    A lot of phenomena occured within the church and again , it is associated with personal vested / greedy interest. That is why , anything claimed as a MIRACLE undergoes such critical investigation for documentation .

    A body or committee is formed composed of panel of experts within the church also does this kay pwerting daghanang claims na hoax diay.
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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