The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

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unsay buhaton sa atong catholic church sa millions or billions na gi invest sa stocks like sa BPI, AYALA, mining sauna na gi baligya nalang kay naay issue?

[SioDenz]

why prayers are not answered most of the times?

Nganu sa bata paka di man ihatag sa imung ginikanan tanan nimung pangayuon?

[SyniTh]

Remember that the primary purpose of the Church is the SALVATION OF SOULS through faith and holiness. The Church does not teach the attainment of holiness through good works, but by faith AND good works.

SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS through good works, like what you claim is NOT a teaching of the Church. It is so pathetic to know that Catholic teaching is so overly misrepresented to perpetuate hatred and false allegations against the Body of Christ.

Poverty, chastity, and obedience -- the "evangelical counsels" described by the combined words of Our Lord and St. Paul -- shaped the path of perfection walked by these early religious, and which is still walked today by those who have "the call."

All of us are called to be "religious," that is, "to bind" (Latin: religare) ourselves to God. We are all called to keep the Two Great Commandments, the Ten Commandments, and the Six Precepts of the Church, and to assent to the Church's teachings. But some of us are called to bind ourselves to God in a special way, to go beyond the "minimum requirements" and to seek the higher path -- the path of perfection.

New Testament stories indicate that some people responded to Jesus' call by coming together to make prayer and service the focus of their lives. Several scriptural passages offer us fine examples of people called to a deeper relationship with God and to follow in the footsteps of Christ. (Mark 1:16-20 & 10:21, Matthew 4:18-22 & 19:21, Luke 5:1-11& 18:22).

The purpose of the the religious life is the perpetuation of the Christian ministry by ‘charism’ , which refers to the spiritual graces and qualifications granted to every Christian to perform his or her task in the Church.


Read on:

CHARISM and Religious Life

Religious Life in the Church

Sacred Vows and the Christian ministry

Thank you sir. I'm glad that self righteousness through good works is not what you believe in. I also am not a believer of that. Forgive me if i may have offended you but i was able to say it because most/almost all religious RC's see it in the perspective of attaining salvation through good works. You can try to ask your RC friend regarding salvation and find out what their answers will be. You'll be surprised that most of their answers is "good works" or "doing or following the sacraments" and not the salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ alone. This is based on the statements of most of my RC classmates, which is wrong and you agree its wrong right?

Traditions also present a great danger in such a way that RC's think that it is by good works. This is what religious people said to God in Mat 7:21-23 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’"

I do believe that in good works, but its the good works that says "I am saved, therefore i do good works". Not the other way around which says "I do good works for me to be saved". Read Eph 2:8-9.


But anyways, im glad to know that there are RC's who believe that salvation in not through good works.

[acescream]

@acescream

hello bro, ask lang ko....JW ka? thanks.

sekreto para bibo. Duha man tingale na ilang Diyos, Almighty God and Mighty God(Jesus) No offense ha mga JW readers.

[dartzed]

@acescream

naghuwat kos imo reply bro ana ka imo to tiwason..

[prudence7]

Nag hikog man ...

mao jud nag hikog man..wala man ka howat sa iya panahon.

[acescream]

the link you posted was just a personal site.
anyone with their own understanding and interpretation can post something on the net these days(and to add, when i open the link you posted, i Immediately got an ad to create a free website )
not taking any credits away from the author for He/she clearly was just expressing his/her point about his belief and as what i always say since DAY 1 that everyone is entitled with a POV.
but the author clearly stated these phrases on the site

"Although I do have some working knowledge of Greek, and understand the nature and basics of this language, I certainly do not claim to be an expert or authority of any kind in the Hebrew or Greek languages. To be a true expert on such matters takes years of study and research. There are not many men who are true experts in these languages"
see it here:The Trinity Delusion: About

so the question goes to you and to the author as well(obviously the author wouldn't answer this,perhpas you can)
why should i consider your POV over what has been installed in the Church for nearly 2ooo years
regarding the Bible texts about Jesus being God which was verified by EXPERTS(both in church and secular world) all throughout History?
over Doctors and Masters of the Divinity within the Whole Christian Chruch?

i believe this would be the third time i should be asking you this question...
i actually have no intentions in getting an answer or to discredit your views in any way (kay imu man pud na)

but being PERSISTENT in your attempt in having your POVs accepted in a way that we should acccept your idea and refute ours

THEN you need to be SPECIFIC with your credentials

hehehe ok bai noy. I was a bit lazy mao nagprovide nalang kos mga links nga naa sa net. Anywayz, kana nga link was just to refer about the King James Version, then kapoi ukay sa akong documents about sa King James Version nga gipamatud-an sa scholars nga erroneous.

but being PERSISTENT in your attempt in having your POVs accepted in a way that we should acccept your idea and refute ours

THEN you need to be SPECIFIC with your credentials

it would be my honor, i will give you some SPECIFIC credentials:

These are for letting you know i'm not the only one who came up with a belief of Jesus being regarded as man, not God, by his followers & the apostles. These are some findings of some Catholic theologians about Jesus. These are people that have dedicated their lives in studying the Bible along with church history:

From a Roman Catholic priest, Richard P. McBrien in his book, Catholicism:

"The New Testament writers do not even ordinarily speak of Jesus as 'God'.."(McBrien, Richard P. Catholicism. Third Edition. , p.346)

From Pedro Sevilla, a Jesuit priest and a fellow Filipino in his book Ang Kabanalbanalang Isangtatlo: Ang Diyos ng mga Kristiyano:

"Kaya't hindi maaring sabihin na tinatawag nang Diyos si Jesus noong mga kaunaunahang araw ng Kristiyanismo."(Sevilla, Pedro, S.J. Quezon City: Loyola School of Theology - Ateneo de Manila University, Ang Kabanalbanalang Isangtatlo: Ang Diyos ng mga Kristiyano, 1988, p.32)

From Charles G. Herzog, another Jesuit priest, in his book God the Redeemer: The Redemption From Sin as Wrought By Jesus Christ the Son of God:

"If anything is evident in the Gospels, it is that Christ was man. He had a real human body, and a real human soul, endowed with a human mind and will."(Herzog, Charles G., S.J., God the Redeemer: The Redemption From Sin as Wrought By Jesus Christ the Son of God., p. 5) - ^even a recommended book, but not free, here: Recommended Books

an observation from a theologian, Thomas Sheehan:

"The crisis grows out of a fact now freely admitted by both Protestant and Catholic theologians and exegetes: that as far as can be considered from the available historical data, Jesus of Nazareth did not think he was divine..."(Sheehan, Thomas. The First Coming: How the Kingdom of God Became Christianity.)

See? I'm not the only one who came up with this. Good luck!

[acescream]

@acescream

naghuwat kos imo reply bro ana ka imo to tiwason..

aw o mam oi hehehe. Cenxa na busy project sa skul.

Ok balik sa tas imo beloved Isaiah 43:11-12 - "..., even I, am the Lord, and apart from me there is no savior."

dayon Titus 1:4 - "To Titus, a genuine child in the faith we share. Good will and peace from God the Father and from Christ Jesus our Savior are yours!"

dayon if si God lang ang only Savior and si Jesus pud kay Savior kay Diyos na siya? Dili man na pwede mam, kay siya ra ang tawo nga gihimong savior sa atong Diyos:

Acts 5:31 - ""He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins." New American Standard Bible (©1995)

Then if in-ana, nganu niana man ang Diyos nga siya ra ang only savior sa Isaiah 43:11? Of course, siya man ang nagpadala sa iyang pinalanggang anak(John 3:16 - "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,....") So naa juy right ang Diyos moingon nga siya ra ang manluluwas kay siya may naghimo sa atong Ginoong Jesus, og Siya pud ang naghimo ni Jesus nga manluluwas. Kung wa niya himoa si Jesus, walay kaluwasan.


So ok na ta ani Isaiah 43:11? Next post lang mam ha ang about sa Hebrews 1:8, Hebrews 1:10 para dili ni motaas nga post. Lunch break sa kow.

[dartzed]

aw o mam oi hehehe. Cenxa na busy project sa skul.

Ok balik sa tas imo beloved Isaiah 43:11-12 - "..., even I, am the Lord, and apart from me there is no savior."

dayon Titus 1:4 - "To Titus, a genuine child in the faith we share. Good will and peace from God the Father and from Christ Jesus our Savior are yours!"

dayon if si God lang ang only Savior and si Jesus pud kay Savior kay Diyos na siya? Dili man na pwede mam, kay siya ra ang tawo nga gihimong savior sa atong Diyos:

Acts 5:31 - ""He is the one whom God exalted to His right hand as a Prince and a Savior, to grant repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins." New American Standard Bible (©1995)

Then if in-ana, nganu niana man ang Diyos nga siya ra ang only savior sa Isaiah 43:11? Of course, siya man ang nagpadala sa iyang pinalanggang anak(John 3:16 - "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,....") So naa juy right ang Diyos moingon nga siya ra ang manluluwas kay siya may naghimo sa atong Ginoong Jesus, og Siya pud ang naghimo ni Jesus nga manluluwas. Kung wa niya himoa si Jesus, walay kaluwasan.


So ok na ta ani Isaiah 43:11? Next post lang mam ha ang about sa Hebrews 1:8, Hebrews 1:10 para dili ni motaas nga post. Lunch break sa kow.

d na mao naa man toy new ako gipost.. kabaw naman kos imo tubag ana ana ka most of it are just quoted sa uban passages sa bible..

[Tirong-say]

I have a Question
Do you think that Roman Catholics
with it's own way of praising God,
made fallible deeds in contrary of the aim,
then why?