The Roman Catholic Church~ Questions

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"no one is more hopelessly blinded from the truth than those who believe they are enlightened"

Food for thought...

thank you for an enlightening food for thought sir. who said this by the way? are you somewhat enlightened sir? do you still have questions about the why there are some RCC traditions not in the Bible? Take a look at how Vaticano made their own Ten Commandments: Catechism of the Catholic Church - The Ten Commandments << very legit, alive & kicking, up-to-date, the Vatican itself

Notice how in row 'A Traditional Catechetical Formula' they removed the creation of any graven image? That is actually commandment number 2 in Exodus. How come it became 10 in total? They split commandment number 10, a commandment regarding our neighbors.

Just so to promote idolatry freely The use of images happened around approx 375 AD or earlier around 156 AD(years after the death of Christ & the Apostles)

hahaha ok bro makatawa man sad ta nimo.. makaremember man nua kos ako amahan cge ingon "kinsay kusog muputak mao toy nangitlog"..hahaha

yes sir i take this in a positive way, of course if di ko muputak og maayo, di pud ko mangitlog og facts nga karon pa ninyo narealize gikan sa Bible, og kalooy sa Diyos intawn(God's mercy), daghan kog naitlog.

RCC or not let's all be open-minded, and search for God:

Deuteronomy 4:29 - "But from there you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you search for Him with all your heart and all your soul."

Ask lang mo if naa mo questions. I'm not a pro so mobalibad ko if wa koy idea hehehe

[dartzed]

waaaahhhhh sorry sir if na-offend ta mu. Ang2x man gud sir kasagaran sa mga manubag diri tubagon ra mag "O, naa sa bibliya" kalooy pud tawn sa mangutana den mao ra na itubag, way backup reference asa nga sitas sa Bibliya. Ang mangutana pud tawn ka-ana nalang tingaleg "okay".

Wa ko nag-belittle sa intelligence sa mga posters diri sir ha, ako ra gipawake-up ang mga manubagay diri para hagoan intawn ang mga mangutana, dili kay "Ang Diyos lang mag-igo sir oi basta naa na bibliya.", luoy jud kaayo.

Tin-aw man ang meaning sa akong gipangpost sa tanan kabalo mobasa og mosabot og english..if gibasa lang jud tuod, if wala gibasa kay taas ra then mahadlok mo nga mausab inyo POV(being closed-minded, in-ana pud ko sauna before searching for the truth about God and doing A LOT of research), then tabla ra jud. Tan-awa ra nang quality sa mga gi-post nako nga explanation sir o dili mana ako nga opinion, ang Bibliya man ako gipastorya ana wa man koy own interpretation ana.

Sa pag-ingon pa lang nimo nga abi nimog si Mary kay sinless nga na-enlighten ka sa truth(Jesus is the only man who didn't sin), lipay na kaayo ko oi, di lalim hago hahaha kas utok.

Mao peace ra jud ko pirmi basta in-ani nga discussion, kay klase2x man ang tawo nga makabasa or makadungog og mga in-ani.(he Parable Of The Sower And The Seed (Matthew 13:1-23)

Mary na pud ta sir? (Holy Mother of God? God has a mom!!! O_O)

fish!.. hehehe ^_^

that's because your belief is not the same as ours mao d na nimo madawat.. RCC believe in the 3 persona 1 God and you don't w/c means this reaction is natural to me (Holy Mother of God? God has a mom!!! O_O)..

i already saw that coming my friend, mocking me will do you no good.. ^_^

ako pa nimo focus ka in convincing me your belief, my cup is not full let and you are most welcome to fill it with some of yours.. ^_^

[blackdream]

hi bro Jov, maaung hapon dha, hehehe... apil2x ko ha??

unsa man nga power imong gpasabot bro? naglibog lage ko anang "power sa simbahan" nga imong gihisgutan dri?

lain2x mangd atong masabtan anang power gd...

[acescream]

lol? karon pa ko kabantay, lady man diay ka oi di man ka sir hahahaha sorrrrrrrreeeeeeee. Paeta pud wa man pud koy paki sa sign gud kay sounds lalake kaau imo username hahahaha. Bantog ra naay pink nga gamay.

bro you can't give an example like that ipamarehas nimo c Jesus nko nga makasasala..

Ok going back, mam , di ba si nadiscuss naman nato si Hesus walay sala? Ngano gud tawn parehaon nako si Hesus nimo LOL. Wa man nako himoa si Hesus nga pareha nimo hahaha gibutang ra man tika sa sitwasyon nila atong tayma. Kung mao na, nahug nuon ko gipareha nakos Taning nako LOL dili intawn ko mokontras Ginoo hahahaha.

-kani palang bro nga example sayop na kaau, kabaw ka b4 ka makathink anang reply sa ubos nga "though shall not steal" it is a reply 1st sa imo self nagthink nga imo kuhaon ang 1M mao na ang reaction "hala! damn! O_O". meaning natental nka sa imo mind palang wala pa nimo buhata remember(nakasala naka sa huna2, sapulong, sa pagbuhat, ug sa wala pagbuhat sa kinhanglan buhaton) you just directly stained the sinless image of Jesus-

Dartzed: "It is written, 'Thou shall not steal.'" (Gibalik2x 100x para di madala sa temptation).<<--- in reply para d nimo mabuhat ang naa sa imo githink..

Dartzed: wew, may nalang nisalir. Bye2x 1M! <<---- same here relief is the sign nga wala nimo nabuhat ang imo githink..

hahaha, natental na diay maam kung wa pa buhata? Natental na diay na nga ma-amaze kas kadako sa kwarta? LOL Nakawat na diay bisag wa kawata?

Wow, so meaning, kaning mga chixxx nga ako makita everywhere nga emal kaau nga nakaana ko "damn!" na-*toot* na diay nako! weeeeeeeeeeee hahahaha LOL

mao gani nikutlo si Jesus og verse sa Bibliya pang-alkontra kay pirme jud siyang gikutloan ni taning ato og mga verse sa bibliya pud. Kamao pud nas taning. Basaha balik ila conversation LOL.

og mao juy gibuhat ni Jesus ato tayma kay:

2 Timothy 3:16 - "All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right."New Living Translation (©2007)
^ (kapoya balik2x ani hahaha)

If si taning ba uroy mismo mao juy manintal nimo, can you resist without remembering the words of God? hehehe

para nako ang "thou shall not temp the Lord your God" was meant for satan not for Jesus self to remind himself.. he can't forget the Word of God coz He is the Son of God..

ok2x i agree jud ani. So tin-aw na nimo diba nga ang pagkutlo og verse ni Hesus ani kay dili para moingon nga cya ang Diyos? Or nakalimot na ka ngano imo ni gibutang ni nga verse para modefend nga Jesus-is-God. Way limtanay hehehe may nalang nakuha na jud nimo ang meaning diri. ^^

[noy]

@Brod Noy, alhamdulillah ok lang ko.

Salamat sa imong mga tubag Brod, another follow-up lang...hehehe.

Di ba si Santo Niño is the Holy Child representing the child Jesus nya nganong gitawag man siya ug Señor? Di ba the correct way is Señorito man?

Unya, how can he be a Patron Saint when he is supposed to be Jesus Christ as our Christian brothers and sisters believed as God?

good to know all is well bro

i believe atong Patron sa Cebu bai kay ang Lady of Guadalupe.
though there has been a confusion sa una 'cause of the popularity of the Sinulog Festival perhaps..
but the Catholic Church has made a formal declaration about
the Lady of Guadalupe as the Patron Saint.

regarding senorito, karon rapud ko kahuna-huna ana bai dah...
bitaw sah? however i think it wouldn't really matter would it?
si Bruce Wayne btaw maski bata pa ang tawag ni Alfred kay Master Bruce ra..hehehe
btaw bai, wa pud jud ko kahibaw nganu senor instead of senorito.

[dartzed]

thank you for an enlightening food for thought sir. who said this by the way? are you somewhat enlightened sir? do you still have questions about the why there are some RCC traditions not in the Bible? Take a look at how Vaticano made their own Ten Commandments: Catechism of the Catholic Church - The Ten Commandments << very legit, alive & kicking, up-to-date, the Vatican itself

Notice how in row 'A Traditional Catechetical Formula' they removed the creation of any graven image? That is actually commandment number 2 in Exodus. How come it became 10 in total? They split commandment number 10, a commandment regarding our neighbors.

Just so to promote idolatry freely The use of images happened around approx 375 AD or earlier around 156 AD(years after the death of Christ & the Apostles)

I think you are a bible geek i know kay daghan kag verse nabaw.an, i believe in your bible you can read that not all images made are graven image..

i know lisod au ni sabton pra ninyo mga protestants about anang mga images gipangbuhat sa RC but i can testify myself deli na graven images.. there are more things happening than what the eyes can see esp if your eyes are set to see things you ONLY want to see..

images made by RC are more sensible to understand in our rites of exorcism, since the cross is usually used..

and don't give me the the site as ur only reference i know unsay mga mabuhat sa internet cloud since that's where my field of work,that's not how you find what is the truth..

yes sir i take this in a positive way, of course if di ko muputak og maayo, di pud ko mangitlog og facts nga karon pa ninyo narealize gikan sa Bible, og kalooy sa Diyos intawn(God's mercy), daghan kog naitlog.

RCC or not let's all be open-minded, and search for God:

Deuteronomy 4:29 - "But from there you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you search for Him with all your heart and all your soul."

Ask lang mo if naa mo questions. I'm not a pro so mobalibad ko if wa koy idea hehehe

RCC is always open to change to be challenge that's why naay catholic faith defender ug apologetics.. if ganahan jud kag matubag ka punto sa punto i suggest you go visit one of RC's churches ask for a catholic faith defender and not just a priest or nun or kanang ordinaryo nga RC kay d jud ka matubag ana nila ug tarong..

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@acescream

mao nani ron naloko nah... kahibaw ka bro actually you don't need to give me ug daghan au nga verses, ikaw raman nagtwist ani tanan deli man ako...

Isaiah 43:11 I am, I am the Lord: and there is no savior besides me(God the Father). unsa may nakalisod sabton ana nga verse?..

you said Jesus has the authority to do things then Jesus can do things sad like God can do but deli cya matawag nga God..

ana ka God the Father ug Christ the savior "kabantay ka gilahi jud cla?" nya imo pa gibutangan ug verse i dont even get how the hell those verses connect kay daghan kaau why do you always keep things complicated?..

nya karon nigawas nsad nang term nga "ultimate savior" asa mana nako mabasa sa bible?..

hay man kaha ing.ania pagthink... God the Father is God he can save us through his own Son Jesus Christ w/c is the sacrifice kay without Jesus Christ there will be no sacrifice and God can't save us..if naa verse nga miingon God can save us from sin without Jesus please post it here nya ipost sad kung unsaon ta pagsave ni God the Father.. and since there is only one savior clearly stated in the bible then Jesus can also be God..

Father = God = authority = Savior(Isaiah 43:11 "no other savior but God");
Savior = authority = Jesus;

but Jesus can't be called God..

hahaha wa basaha tanan ai klaro kaayo. Hadlok ka matandog maam? Mostick nalang lage sa iya own opinion di man i-open ang mind. Dili pa man kaha puno imo cup, absorb tong taas kaayo nako nga answer kay wa may botbot ato maam ang Bibliya juy mostorya nimo igbasa nimo. Ang lain makabasa nga reader makaana jud og "Hala o bitaw sa?". Bisan pag magdala og iyang bible to compare the verses lol pareha ra kaayo bisag Katoliko nga bibliya gamiton. Sayanga maam oi naa unta ka bag-o makat-onan ato gishare ra man to nako ang about how God designed salvation, bahalag di ka maconvince makabasa ka lang ato additional knowledge na to nimo. Then imo dayon macompare ang pagka-savior ni Jesus og ni God ngano tawgon sila duha og savior.

Thanks anyway maam.

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I think you are a bible geek i know kay daghan kag verse nabaw.an, i believe in your bible you can read that not all images made are graven image..

i know lisod au ni sabton pra ninyo mga protestants about anang mga images gipangbuhat sa RC but i can testify myself deli na graven images.. there are more things happening than what the eyes can see esp if your eyes are set to see things you ONLY want to see..

images made by RC are more sensible to understand in our rites of exorcism, since the cross is usually used..

and don't give me the the site as ur only reference i know unsay mga mabuhat sa internet cloud since that's where my field of work,that's not how you find what is the truth..




RCC is always open to change to be challenge that's why naay catholic faith defender ug apologetics.. if ganahan jud kag matubag ka punto sa punto i suggest you go visit one of RC's churches ask for a catholic faith defender and not just a priest or nun or kanang ordinaryo nga RC kay d jud ka matubag ana nila ug tarong..

hehe tan-aw bitaw ko anang salida ni Brod Soc sa Channel 47 lol magkatawa nalang kos iya mga tubag hahaha kay wa jud natubag ang pangutana hanap jpon. Sa uban nuon question nga similar ang belief kay sakto man pero kana jung mga laglom sa Katoliko esp kani images, himoan kag storya dili pastoryaon ang Bibliya lol.

Bitaw maam oi, thanks, it was fun. I thought natay-an na ko lol thank God la pa intawn. Uyamot ra tawon ko mam high school student sa Consolacion National High School naa sa internetan ga-istorya.net.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

hi bro Jov, maaung hapon dha, hehehe... apil2x ko ha??

unsa man nga power imong gpasabot bro? naglibog lage ko anang "power sa simbahan" nga imong gihisgutan dri?

lain2x mangd atong masabtan anang power gd...

kung kabasa ka bro sa previous posts, dunay kawat ug patay nga nahitabo sulod sa simbahan. kasagaran ingon diri nga ang Ginoo ra ang dunay power/gahum ug wai laing gamhanan nga mukuntra ana. pangutana, nganong nahitabo man ng mga ingon ana nga evil nga binuhatan sa sulod mismo sa simbahan? dili diay sa Ginoo ang simbahan ky wala man siya power against ana preventing it to happen inside mismo sa church?

[dartzed]

lol? karon pa ko kabantay, lady man diay ka oi di man ka sir hahahaha sorrrrrrrreeeeeeee. Paeta pud wa man pud koy paki sa sign gud kay sounds lalake kaau imo username hahahaha. Bantog ra naay pink nga gamay.

Ok going back, mam , di ba si nadiscuss naman nato si Hesus walay sala? Ngano gud tawn parehaon nako si Hesus nimo LOL. Wa man nako himoa si Hesus nga pareha nimo hahaha gibutang ra man tika sa sitwasyon nila atong tayma. Kung mao na, nahug nuon ko gipareha nakos Taning nako LOL dili intawn ko mokontras Ginoo hahahaha.

hahaha, natental na diay maam kung wa pa buhata? Natental na diay na nga ma-amaze kas kadako sa kwarta? LOL Nakawat na diay bisag wa kawata?

Wow, so meaning, kaning mga chixxx nga ako makita everywhere nga emal kaau nga nakaana ko "damn!" na-*toot* na diay nako! weeeeeeeeeeee hahahaha LOL

mao gani nikutlo si Jesus og verse sa Bibliya pang-alkontra kay pirme jud siyang gikutloan ni taning ato og mga verse sa bibliya pud. Kamao pud nas taning. Basaha balik ila conversation LOL.

what is the nature of sin bro?.. naa may sala nga wala gibuhat ex. kanang nagplano ka mangawat, dba wala paman na nimo buhata?

hahaha nice bro maau kay ka mulusot naamazed ra jud, unfortunately ang sunod nga imo gipost kay lain ang meaning and i dont think naamazed toh.. ^_^

kanang chix imo idea krn pero deli na parehas ug situation sa imo giexample nko ug sa nahitabo ni Jesus with satan..hehehe

hahaha wa jud ka kagets mao ni nakapait ninyo mga protestants you always presume things like "moa ni mao na" mao ma out of context mo.. HUNA HUNAA ragud bro kung ikaw c Hesus anak kag Ginuo matental paba kaha ka nga wala pa gani ka giduol ni taning or even nag disguise c taning makabaw nka kinsa ug kabaw ka unsay buhaton ni taning.. imo nman nua gi parehas ug level ang intellect ni Hesus sa mga sinners.. kana palang daan imo na gipakasala c Jesus..

og mao juy gibuhat ni Jesus ato tayma kay:

2 Timothy 3:16 - "All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right."New Living Translation (©2007)
^ (kapoya balik2x ani hahaha)

If si taning ba uroy mismo mao juy manintal nimo, can you resist without remembering the words of God? hehehe

ok2x i agree jud ani. So tin-aw na nimo diba nga ang pagkutlo og verse ni Hesus ani kay dili para moingon nga cya ang Diyos? Or nakalimot na ka ngano imo ni gibutang ni nga verse para modefend nga Jesus-is-God. Way limtanay hehehe may nalang nakuha na jud nimo ang meaning diri. ^^

kapoy jud mudefend sa faith bro yet i don't complain, i just explain things.. ^_^

D man ko c Hesus bro d man sad ko anak ug Ginuo mao d mi kalevel bcn ma GODLIKE ko ana imo kalaki..hahaha

wa jud ka kagets sa ako point bro as long as deli nimo iopen imo mind sad.. ako kasabot kos imo pasabot but ako sad na gi evaluate.. ^_^

like i said ni tuo mi sa Holy trinity One God.. so yaw ko ingna nakalimot ko sa ato topic..