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  1. #4441

    Unsay teaching sa Catholics sa mga tawo nga lahi ug religion? duna bay mapaabot nga kaluwasan gawas sa Roman Catholicism?

    I dunno if napangutana naba ni nko

  2. #4442
    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    but if you'll be asking for Specifics on its Absolute form(No buts,no ifs,no perhaps,no maybe etc) nga masabtan nato given the capacity of the human brain...i can only wish you well
    kay a finite mind can never quantify something infinite.

    mao importante jud ang Faith ug relationship sa atong Ginoo
    otherwise words in the bible will be just words and worse, basin malahi pa nato ug sabut.
    2 Timothy 3:16-17 - "All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

    kani bro tin-aw man jud ni dili man malahi og sabut hehehe and of course, God can't be quantified, too powerful..but everything you need to know about Him is inside..so that we will know Him very well, what his likes & dislikes, the way he wanted to be worshipped, what pleases him and doesn't..and even love Him more than our lives.

    Good luck pud, bai noy!

  3. #4443
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Unsay teaching sa Catholics sa mga tawo nga lahi ug religion? duna bay mapaabot nga kaluwasan gawas sa Roman Catholicism?

    I dunno if napangutana naba ni nko
    1 Timothy 4:1-3 - "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods*, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth."

    *
    possible, during Lent

    naa tingale? hehehe

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    Ask ko ehy catholics are soo much devoted to the black nazarene even if they didn't exist in the bible? There's only one God, but why man murag God na to? Mag-ilog para makapahid lang sa lawas sa statue. Dunno why?

  5. #4445
    question: unsa man gyud angay e celebrate? ang kamatayon or ang pagahimogso ni Jesus

  6. #4446
    @ acescream

    by what you posted earlier regarding Jesus not being God and about the books that have been added
    during the compilation of the Bible and about misleading teachings of the early church.
    basing from your posts, i think you are not confused and searching BUT have already concluded your faith
    so techinically maski pag unsa among itubag nimu, i think it wouldn't matter to you.

    however, if you STILL consider yourself searching for answers whethre Jesus is God or not
    i sugest you search within the Christian Faith Parameters. you may wanna start getting the POVs
    of Christians(people who consider Jesus as God), see how we interpret verses in the Bible
    then compare it with whatever your faith and belief stands.
    this is just an example
    an aetheist can boost his claims about God's inexistence if he will only
    search from sites that supports his claims.
    in the same way a Muslim would always believe that Jesus was talking about the Prophet muhammad (phuh)
    when Jesus talked about a Helper if they would never search and study about the Christian's belief of the HOly Spirit
    if you search the Bible and study the Catholic or any Christian doctrines about the Trinity and Jesus being God
    for counter-argument rather than a searching soul then you would never know why we believe that Jesus is God.

    suggestion lang pud ni ako bai.

    'cause we may not be able to throw a parallel argument sa imuhang claims
    it could be nga di lang jud mi katubag or we are already exhausted with these type of conversations.
    esp if we are talking about these things for the sake of knowing whose belief got the edge.
    instead of giving light to some confusions about the RCC practice which i believe what the thread is all about

    however, i will at least give you somthing to look into to be fair

    John 1:1-14
    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.

    There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
    9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

    14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    who do you suppose the word is bai? and what did John mean when He said the Word was WITH God and the word IS God?
    what did John mean when he said "the word was made flesh"?


    my understanding about the Holy Trinity bai
    is that It's like the phases of matter( solid,liquid and gas)

    let's take WATER for an example
    no matter what we call it (ice,water vapor etc) it would still be water as
    though it has taken different form in the phases of matter it will always be water.

    solid = ice
    liquid = regular water
    gas= water vapor

    Like God, He can be the God of the Universe, as God of the old testament,God of Abraham etc
    and be Jesus the Savior in the New Testament(God is the creator of all things figuratively the Father of all creation, therefore when God the form of a servant(man) He Himself in the Character of the Son(Son) became the Son of God(begotten not made)
    and GOd can also be the Holy Spirit given to His disciples on Pentecost or to anyone at any time who ackowledges Him.

    Father = God
    Son = God
    Holy Spirit = God

    Same God, just taking different forms and Characteristics because He Love us(John3:16)
    Without the sacrifice of His Own, mankind will never see Salvation.

    Do you recall the verse you qouted about Blind men leading blind men as well?
    Man can never save Men. Only God can. if Jesus is the Savior but not God
    Jesus will never be enough, like all the covenants and sin atonements in teh old testament
    at the end of the day PEOPLE like you and me would always end up breaking the law and sinning towards God
    getting tempted and turning towards God..
    Hence Jesus said, this is FINAL Covenant.

    Satan tempted Jesus knowing that though God but took the form of a Human Being
    thinking that Jesus placed Himself in a very vulnerable situation(which in reality, He did)
    but Satan didn't know was FAITH,HOPE and LOVE that Jesus(as the son of man) shared with the Father.
    because Satan doesn't have them in the First place

    Satan knew about the scriptures and can twist their meanings

    there are greater things needed than just understanding and knowing bai,
    that's where FAITH comes in.

    Godspeed

  7. #4447
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    question: unsa man gyud angay e celebrate? ang kamatayon or ang pagahimogso ni Jesus
    naa ba giingon si Jesus to celebrate his birth or his death?

  8. #4448
    Quote Originally Posted by acescream View Post
    2 Timothy 3:16-17 - "All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

    kani bro tin-aw man jud ni dili man malahi og sabut hehehe and of course, God can't be quantified, too powerful..but everything you need to know about Him is inside..so that we will know Him very well, what his likes & dislikes, the way he wanted to be worshipped, what pleases him and doesn't..and even love Him more than our lives.

    Good luck pud, bai noy!
    Thanks bai

  9. #4449
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    naa ba giingon si Jesus to celebrate his birth or his death?
    baligtad na sad ko Jovi...atheist na sad ko ron ayaw ko pangutan-a ana kay wala ko kahibaw ana

  10. #4450
    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Unsay teaching sa Catholics sa mga tawo nga lahi ug religion? duna bay mapaabot nga kaluwasan gawas sa Roman Catholicism?

    I dunno if napangutana naba ni nko
    naa nay nangutana about sa Salvation outside the Church sio
    anyway naa insights ani nga link ai
    Salvation Outside the Church | Catholic Answers

    Differences with other Abrahamic Religions kay Jesus is God etc
    with other denominations kay Catholic Sacraments,purgatory and indulgence
    veneration of saints ug ubang mga minor doctrines and interpretaions.

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