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  1. 01-09-2013, 08:58 PM #4421
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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    asa man ang gahum bro? napakgang na unta ang evil nga binuhatan?
    huh? ambot nimo walako kalibutan ana oi...
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  2. 01-09-2013, 08:59 PM #4422
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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    no way of our concern? naa bro oi, knowing nga inutil ra man diay ang simbahan against evil. wala ta duda sa power sa God, but makaduda kung natagaan ba ug power, acknowledged ba or recognized ba sa God ang simbahan. naa gipangpatay sulod sa simbahan mismo bro, naa man gani mga pari nabiktima. pwerteng daghanang rebolto ug jewelries ang nakawat.
    knsa may nag kawat? kinsa may nag patay mga pari ba?
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  3. 01-09-2013, 09:07 PM #4423
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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    knsa may nag kawat? kinsa may nag patay mga pari ba?
    ngita ug lusot ai hehehe. ani na lng, ang evil act, wala napakgang. wai powers ky wa napakgang?
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  4. 01-09-2013, 09:24 PM #4424
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    another question, while waiting for the answers... kung naay power ang Black Nazarene, nganong naay devoto nga namatay during sa prosesyon? kung naay fluvial parade sa usa ka saint, nganong naay trahedya nga nahitabo, naay mga nalunod ug mga nalumos? where is the power to prevent such tragedies?
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  5. 01-09-2013, 09:46 PM #4425
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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    kabalo ko bro nga gamhanan ang Ginoo. Ang gahum man sa simbahan, crucifix, rebolto sa saints ug sa pari against evil ang akong pangutana. wa diay gahum bro against evil?
    jovs, kaw nalang research ana ha..as far as i know, ang Ginoo lang jud ang makahatag ug gahum
    you can search about Roman Rites of Exorcism and Roman Catholic exorcisms.
    ang Evil sa kalibutan gitugot na sa Ginoo tungod kay naa siyay purpose.
    ug unsa man gani na, Siya ray nahibaw Jovs ug dili tungod sa mga pari ug uban pa diha nga way gahom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    another question, while waiting for the answers... kung naay power ang Black Nazarene, nganong naay devoto nga namatay during sa prosesyon? kung naay fluvial parade sa usa ka saint, nganong naay trahedya nga nahitabo, naay mga nalunod ug mga nalumos? where is the power to prevent such tragedies?
    last time i checked, this is a thread for Catholic practices and traditions queries..
    murag kanang imung mga pangutana Jovs, ang Ginoo ra may makatubag..Lol

    mura bag mga questions nga nganu namatay si kuan nga buotan man unta to, nganu ni, nganu na...hahaha
    nganu niagi man kog tumang kalisud? nganu?
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  7. 01-09-2013, 10:00 PM #4427
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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    no way of our concern? naa bro oi, knowing nga inutil ra man diay ang simbahan against evil. wala ta duda sa power sa God, but makaduda kung natagaan ba ug power, acknowledged ba or recognized ba sa God ang simbahan. naa gipangpatay sulod sa simbahan mismo bro, naa man gani mga pari nabiktima. pwerteng daghanang rebolto ug jewelries ang nakawat.
    patay man gani si Jesus jovs, kung wa namatay si Jesus way kaluwasan
    patay man gani ang mga early Christians ug kasagaran sa mga apostoles pero kung wa cla nangamatay, basin ug walay daghan naconvinced nga tinuod ila gisulti about salvation in teh Christian faith...
    point jovs is, we cannot state absolutes based on what we see and personal assesment
    esp if premature pa kaau...diba ang mga blessings in disguise comes out from detestable situations?

    kung unsa man ganiy nahitabo nga bati sa mga pari,simbahan ug sa kalibutan
    gitugot na sa Diyos either as effects sa mga binuhatan or for a greater purpose ug
    wala ta kahibaw ug unsa na...
    ug dili tungod kay way gahum ang mga pari ug rebolto.
    ano ba yan?

    sa ato pa jovs wala ka niagi ug any kalisdanan sa imung kinabuhi karun?
    otherwise, unsa man gani na imung gituhoan ug kinsa man gani na imung teacher...wa pud nay gahom.
    ug way gamit imung third eye!
    Tabla ra ta! Lol
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  8. 01-09-2013, 10:08 PM #4428
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    @ JOVI ...

    Are you talking about MAGICAL POWERS ? Like mga POWERS na naay mga LASER BEAMS ? Ala HOLYWOOD na mo hayag gani ang CRUCIFIX masuwaw si DRACULA ?

    Its not like that . POWER of LOVE nuon pwerting POWERA hehehehe .
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    and yes jovs, wa tay labut sa binuhatan sa ubang TAO, esp sa ilang mga sala
    that's what i meant when i said it was in no way of our concern.
    we cannot just place judgement on people just because what we believe is different from theirs
    i thought you have accessed the secret teachings?
    is being judgemental also a part of the secret teachings?

    sama ra na sa wa namu pagpanghilabut ug lahi imung pagtuo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ngita ug lusot ai hehehe. ani na lng, ang evil act, wala napakgang. wai powers ky wa napakgang?
    unsa bang klasehag gahum imong gipangeta ba nag libog nako? unsa nga evil power?
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