Like kanang pagmisa sa suicidal bro, wa mana gitugot sauna pero karon gitugot na, kanang pag prosecute sa alleged witched ang pagans gibuhat mana sauna sa simbahan pero karon wala na,
In the end it's not the church or the pope that dictates what is morally just, it is the people that does the dictating..
d man libog ang katoliko bro kamao lang jud cla mubasa sa bible..
2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct, to instruct in justice..
with respect to all religious sec i think one of the problem ani nila nga institutions is they are static when in reality it's all about change.. this is why puno au ni cla ug misunderstanding.. thats why you have krn daghan lain lain nga religions and I think a church divided is NOT a church at all..
it's all about realization brod....
as what JPII said...evolution is not a hypothesis anymore...
what he meant about it is that "evolution" by its term is happening, its not about the "apes stuff"
but its the underlying meaning of evolution...the Church itself has evolved...evolved to be better that it was before...
the Church has its own evolution, change for good, because of her realizations...
that being said...doesn't mean the Church is not the Pillar and Ground of Truth...
remember, Christ is the groom and the Church is the bride....(paraphrase from Ephesians 5:25-27)
question, are we part of the Church?
i believe jovs kadtong pagan pa ang Rome they call their chief and high priest "pontiff"
and yes pagan pa to ang Rome ato...
by the time that they converted to Christianity, with Pope being the Chief and High Priest
still calls the Pope Pontiff as citizens of Rome addressing to their high priest
BUT NOT as pagan.
after all, The Pope is technically the high priest of the Official Roman Religion which at the time i dunno if mao ba gihapun run is Catholicism.
for example, naay amerikano nga naminyo ug pinay who calls her biological father "tatay"
tungod kay ang amerikano iyang bana it would follow nga tatay pud iyang tawag sa iyang father in-law diba?
karun does that follow nga sa pagtawag ug tatay sa "kano" nahimo siyang Pinoy?
of course no, mao lang iyang pagtawag sa iyang father in-law becase mao man ang tawag sa iyang asawa nga pinay
in the same way romans who converted to Christianity refer to the pope as the pontiff the high priest
'cause after all they are still Romans. but this time as Catholics and not pagan
Allah is how muslims call God, i believe Allah and Christian's Father God
are the same as per Abrahamnic Religions..
i wouldn't mind calling God by the name Allah esp if i am speaking with a muslim brother or sister
and that does not follow that i converted to Islam by calling God Allah does it?
Hope we see the connection.
Last edited by noy; 01-07-2013 at 05:34 PM.
hi master, di ko sure ani ha
but i think wala man jud cguroy nag ingun nga ug unsa dapat atong gesture when singing/praying the Lord's prayer
but i think it is up to the individual kung asa siya mas komportable ug convicted...mas maayo whatever it is it should be
from the heart, like naay uban mura na ug mag dupa, naay uban kay praying hands lang
so wala juy ingun ta nga specific...ang importante it is done as an act of worship
for me, if di lang pud ko maka cause ug kahibulongan..hehehe
i would raise my hands as high as they might for i am addressing to the most high...
or i would hold the hands sa akong tupad maski pa ug dili kaila as a sign og unity in faith
after all, the prayer starts with "Our Father" not "My Father"
in short, kining mga gestures are just a matter of conviction para nako master.
mao gani libog, kay mu ingun nga ang Ginoo ray nakahibalo sa atung kasing kasing nya while naa pa sa Yuta mu declaire na nga ang isa ka tawo Santos unya mu ingun nsad wa kahibalo if nalangit ba tong tawhana. Mu ingun nga premature if mu ingun ka nga malangit ang isa ka tawo nya himuon nimung saint?
Naay mga paagi gihatag ang Dios unsaon pag ampo niya, if imu nang supakon, matawag ba nato nga nituoo ka niya? Mao bitaw naay balaod para dapat sundon nya para anha masukod if nituo ba gyud ka niya - unya bisag unsa na nuon. Maong naay balaod kay dunay rason nganu ghatag nga specifically nga balaod, wa man ni ingun ang Ginoo nga kini akong balod suggestion ra ni ug pwedi ni di tumanon.
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