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  1. #231

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    So very impossible ma attain nang imong God's kingdom kay nagkasamot naman nuon kadautan ang taw karon? youre talking about the perfect place called heaven naman bro...hhheehe.
    nganong very impossible man? kung ganahan ka musulod sa Kingdom of God, nganong mag-agad man ka sa pagkadautan sa ubang mga tawo? imong kaugalingong kinabuhi imong i-agad sa laing tao? wai laing tao nga makatabang nimo kung dili imong kaugalingon ra. Kung ikaw makabuhat ka ug perfect goodness and you obey all God's command, you are bringing the Kingdom of God to your ownself. You are bringing the Kingdom of God to earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    sis, kung mo reincarnate ang usa ka soul, matawo ug balik, mubata ug balik. kung unsa iyang body sauna, dili na pareha sa iyang bag-ong body. sakto ka. but dili importante ang physical body, ang soul. Jesus taught to deny ourselves. but it seems you are concentrated everything physical.
    Still from the same page....(if you did read everything)

    [...Jesus says to the "good thief", "Today you will be with ME in paradise!" He DID NOT say "well, in the next life you will know better" or the like. In fact, if reincarnation was so important and being that it attempts to explain the very nature of our creation, I would think it IS rather important, why did Jesus NOT teach extensively about it? On the contrary, He talked as if when we die we will go on "the path God has prepared for us" and never even mentioned reincarnation but always talked as if we all just live ONE life...]

  3. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    This claim contradicts with the following verses about who Jesus Christ is...

    Acts 4:12
    Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

    John 3:16
    For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    John 14:6
    Jesus saith unto him,I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    John 10:9
    I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

    I John 5
    10 Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the testimony God has given about his Son.
    11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
    12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life. 13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you
    have eternal life.

    daghan pa bro.....
    wa man na ni contradict diha nga mga verse. ang inyong interpretation ra ang ni contradict, pero sa amoa tumpak kaayo bro. ky ang Christ man gud sa gitudlo namo nga Son of God, dili man gud na ang physical body ni Jesus kung dili ang na attain man gud na sa iyang soul. Pero kasabot mi ngano nga physical body ni Jesus ang inyong Christ, ky more man mo sa mga physical nga butang, ang spiritual nga butang inyong paningkamutan ug sabot using your brain ug 5 senses. so asa man na padulong, adto ra pud na kutob sa masabtan sa brain. Plus puro lng mo too too, sauna gamay ra man ang nitoo ana, unsaon pugson man, kung dili i execute. karon nga daghan na ang nitoo, nakaingon mo ang inyong gituhu-an mao ang matood. same ra pud ninyo, lahi lahi ang christian denomination, para ninyo kamo ang matood ug dili ang mga katoliko, but wait, mas daghan man sila, so sila ang tinood dili na tinood inyoha. something not true will never become the truth ky tungod lng nga gituhu-an sa kadaghanan nga truth.

  4. #234
    Quote Originally Posted by wenlove24 View Post
    Still from the same page....(if you did read everything)

    [...Jesus says to the "good thief", "Today you will be with ME in paradise!" He DID NOT say "well, in the next life you will know better" or the like. In fact, if reincarnation was so important and being that it attempts to explain the very nature of our creation, I would think it IS rather important, why did Jesus NOT teach extensively about it? On the contrary, He talked as if when we die we will go on "the path God has prepared for us" and never even mentioned reincarnation but always talked as if we all just live ONE life...]
    ok lng na sis, i respect what you believed. even if you won't believe it, Jesus taught reincarnation.

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    wa joy daog ug mga ingon ani, kung lain lain ang gi barogan sa mga mo explain.

  6. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @jovs



    Hhahahah! Kaw jud bro nakasuway na diay kag kamatayon? I would rather listen to the Lord Jesus Christ than your teacher bro. Kanang pagtuo nga ikaw ray makaluwas sa imong kaugalingong might, reincarnation, etc. kadako anang HILO? Diba mao mana nga concept ang gusto ipasabot ni Satan nga dili tinuod ang PERSONAL GOD, His RIGHTEOUSNESS/JUSTICE and eternal HEAVEN and HELL?



    Sige man kag balik2 bro! nakasuway nba ka about the working of the Holy Spirit in your life? Kung wla pa bro, il encourage you to believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal saviour and allow the Holy Spirit to work in you. I-compare dayon after kung unsay dakong kalahian between the two. Either your life will be changed sa Holy Spirit or ang imong secret knowledge napun-an tungod sa opening of the Third eye. Ikaw ra jud maka decide bro!



    Testingi sa ug dawat tinuoray ang Ginoong Hesukristo bro para makasabot ka of what TRUE CHRISTIANITY really is ug unsa kanindot being a TRUE CHRISTIAN. Wala na sa pineal ma experience ang ginoo kundi sa imong tibuok kinabuhi nga nausab hasta ang imong perspective sa reality!



    Nagquote2 ka ug mga verses sa bible unya syaro wala ka kasugat diha that talks about who Jesus Christ is? Hehehehe. Sige mankag hisgot anang imong school nga way librohay bro! you need to understand bro how deceitful Satan is…..grabe jud pagkabwasot nimo sa bangag bro!



    Hehehhe….Kabalo ka unsay meaning sa word nga CULT bro? try to research balik….kay murag kanang imong belief mofit jud ani nga category.

    These groups deny or distort fundamental Christian doctrines such as the Trinity, the deity of Christ, and salvation by grace through faith alone. Some cults that would fall into this category are the Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christian Science, The Way International, and the Unity School of Christianity.

    Most of these cults claim to be Christian, and even consider the Bible to be authoritative. But they manipulate the Scriptures to fit their own beliefs. Although they may claim to serve Jesus Christ, and may even use the same terminology orthodox Christians use, their definitions are vastly different.

    What Is a Religious Cult? | CRI
    What is a Cult?
    Definition of terms: cults, sects, denominations



    Bro bisan kinsang grupoha kung dili motuo sa inyong belief will be considered unbeliever. Daghan bati sa history sa Christianity tungod sa mga taw/leaders nga nagclaim ana pero dili tinuoray ang conversion, gihimo lang “cloak” to fulfill their political or selfish agenda. Sabta ang history sa Christianity para makabalo ka unsay tinuoray nga cause. Usa pud, hunahunaa kung ang pagpatay mao bana ang Fundamental teachings nga gitudlo ni Jesus Christ.



    Di jud maayo nang tago2/hidden agenda bro kung para man galing na sa atong kaayuhan. Posible si SUN MYUNG MOON imong gimean usa ka KULTO.
    sa kadaghan ninyo nga christian denomination bro, kinsa kaha ang tinood ninyo? kabalo ko sige mo pang recruit ky kung kinsa ang pinakadaghan, mao to ang matood ky mas daghan ang niaccept ug nitoo nga mao ang matood nga kristyano. so sa pagkakaron, dili lng sa na tinood inyoha, ang katoliko lng sa ky daghan man kaayo sila. magwait lng ka ug mudaghan na pud mo ug maayo para kamo na pud ang tinood.

  7. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari 430 Scuderia View Post
    wa joy daog ug mga ingon ani, kung lain lain ang gi barogan sa mga mo explain.
    sakto gyud ka bro, wa gyud daog, dili man pud ni pang daog amo, sharing lng. ang nakanindot lng, i have more ideas ky sabton man nako ang pikas side ngano then i base pud sa gitudlo nako, so the more nga napun-an akong ideas, esp. mga ideas nga wala gitudlo nako. ambot lng kaha ani nila diri akong mga suki, ug unsa pud sa ilang side. manga okai man ni sila usahay. unya bisag unsa pa sila kadaghan, ako lng usa, dili gyud na sila makapildi ky in the 1st place, dili man ni contest akoa sharing lng man ni. kung para nila pildi na ko, ok lng gihapon na para nako. kung para nila sayop ko, samot pang ok. basta nakabalo ko unsa akong nahibaw-an. hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrari 430 Scuderia View Post
    wa joy daog ug mga ingon ani, kung lain lain ang gi barogan sa mga mo explain.
    What good is winning an argument if you can't win a soul back to God?
    Besides, this was never a competition.

    Shalom!

  9. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Wa man nangankon si Pedro ana jovi. Ikaw ra jud nagbuot-buot. Wa man gud ka kasabot sa concept ana "believing in Jesus" jovi maong moingon ka nga ang salvation is not just believing. Kun moingon kang you believe in Jesus follow sad jud ka sa iya teaching.
    naa na sa bible bro, gi share nato nako ang verse ana. dili si Peter ang niangkon, si Jesus mismo ang nisulti, pero basin lahi inyong interpretation. kung moingon ta ni follow na mo bro ni Jesus, gibaligya na nimo imong properties ug gihatag sa mga pobre? gi deny na nimo ang imong self?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ok lng na sis, i respect what you believed. even if you won't believe it, Jesus taught reincarnation.
    If He did, where is it?

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