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  1. #141

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    hehehe, maayo sab kaayo ka mohimo ug storya bro da, maayo kaayo ka mupalami as if sweto kaayo ka sa amoa hehehe. ang inyoha lantad kaayo namo nga lahi ang interpretasyon sa bible. then kabalo mi ngano, ang spirituhanong properties like God, Christ and God's Kingdom, gisabot ug gisuwayan ug hubad pinaagi sa physical nga pagsabot, gamit ang utok ug 5 senses.
    mao gyud Jovi lantad kaayo ang amo...mao nay nagpamatuod nga wa gyud mi mag himo2x or mag buhat2x, ngano kana inyo inyo di man ninyo ilantad? hadlok mo makita ang kinatibok-ang sayop?

  2. #142
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    giunsa man nimo pagkabalo gawas sa bible nga si Jesus ni resurrect? naka prove ba ka sa imong self, or imo lng gituhu-an ang nakasulat sa bible?

    sa akong giingon nga wala gisulat, ang teachings ky sekreto man gud, wala gyud na gisulat to protect the secrecy, unya available lng sa mga sincere nga mga students. ang naa sa bible nga teachings ni Jesus, wala mn na gisulat while buhi pa siya, after naman nga wala siya. and para namo, nganong na publish na sila, bec of the Roman Empire and ang kontra sa Christianity nga school. so bisan pa nasulat ang teachings ni Jesus sa bible, naa diha ang teachings ni Jesus. lahi lahi lng ug interpretasyon. ang among gitudlo bro pagkauna ang pinakabasic. basta buhaton lng ang pinakabasic nga buhatanon, makasabot na dayon ug anam2x. unya never ending bro ang learning process, after masabtan kani, naa na pud lain.
    giunsa man nimo pagkabalo gawas sa bible nga si Jesus ni resurrect? naka prove ba ka sa imong self, or imo lng gituhu-an ang nakasulat sa bible?
    --kung gawas sa bible Jovi wala na ta ana istoryahan...siguro kung wala ang bible atheist ko ron...nasayod ko nga na resurrect siya tungod kay nahisulat man.. mao nay akong prove, written pa gyud kinsa may nag sulat? iyang mga apostles nga matud pa nimo Direct student. karon kinsa ba na imong gipang yawyaw nga Direct student ba?

    sa akong giingon nga wala gisulat, ang teachings ky sekreto man gud, wala gyud na gisulat to protect the secrecy, unya available lng sa mga sincere nga mga students. ang naa sa bible nga teachings ni Jesus, wala mn na gisulat while buhi pa siya, after naman nga wala siya. and para namo, nganong na publish na sila, bec of the Roman Empire and ang kontra sa Christianity nga school. so bisan pa nasulat ang teachings ni Jesus sa bible, naa diha ang teachings ni Jesus. lahi lahi lng ug interpretasyon. ang among gitudlo bro pagkauna ang pinakabasic. basta buhaton lng ang pinakabasic nga buhatanon, makasabot na dayon ug anam2x. unya never ending bro ang learning process, after masabtan kani, naa na pud lain.
    --wala gisulat? ngano mag sige man lage ug sulti si Jesus sa iyang mga sermons "IT IS WRITTEN" gihimo man noon nimo bakakon si Jesus ana, mura man kag nag declare nga mas labaw pa ka niya
    Last edited by slabdans; 12-27-2012 at 09:45 AM.

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Any belief is welcomed in this thread bro. Mao man atong tuyo nga makabalo sa kamatuoran...
    We denied its credibility kay its written in the bible naman gud ug giwarn na sa Ginoo about anang butanga.
    ahh.. i realy dont quite understand the last part there.

  4. #144
    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    --kung gawas sa bible Jovi wala na ta ana istoryahan...siguro kung wala ang bible atheist ko ron...nasayod ko nga na resurrect siya tungod kay nahisulat man.. mao nay akong prove, written pa gyud kinsa may nag sulat? iyang mga apostles nga matud pa nimo Direct student. karon kinsa ba na imong gipang yawyaw nga Direct student ba?

    --wala gisulat? ngano mag sige man lage ug sulti si Jesus sa iyang mga sermons "IT IS WRITTEN" gihimo man noon nimo bakakon si Jesus ana, mura man kag nag declare nga mas labaw pa ka niya
    Bro slabdans, let me also just add what you have said here for JOVS.....Jovs Proofs ni sya nga si Jesus na banhaw jud...
    1.
    When a christian loudly says with all his heart "I AM SAVED". That is a proof that Christ has indeed raisen from the dead(resurrected). That is not just a superficial belief but an inner experience of the resurection life of Jesus Christ. Thus we are testifying that Christ has been raisen from the dead.

    Burag hangin ba, we do not see it but we feel it. In-ana sad ang pagkabanhaw ni Jesus. We have not been there to witness Jesus' resurection but we SURELY know that Jesus was resurected because we have experienced Him as life within us. We have song that goes like this "you ask me how I know He lives, He lives within my heart". (John 3:

    2.
    The bible also says like this which true to our experience "We know that we have passed out of death into life because we love the brothers. He who does not love abides in death." 1 John 3:14. We actually have a love and excitement to fellowship with those who are genuine believers of the Lord. The bible has just affirmed our experience of the resurrected life, and the bible has defined what it is to have a resurrected life.

    These are just some of the proofs nga si Jesus nabanhaw jud..

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    @ the one who insists on reincarnation:

    I'm not sure if I missed any part of the discourse but may I ask what is the purpose of reincarnation as taught by your religion?

  6. #146
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    unsa diay ang imoha bro? ang akong nahibaw-an, nga para nimo Christ is personal, sakto ba ko. if sakto ko, na belong ka sa usa sa mga christian denominations? sakto ba bro? ask ko bro, nganong wala mo nagkahiusa? nganong lahi lahi mo ug tinuhu-an?
    Jesus is the Christ and he is a person. All Evangelical denomination share the same belief. Lahi lang siguro sa practices but we all share the same belief about God, the bible, Jesus, salvation, etc. However, there are groups that sounds like Christian groups but are not. Siguro kana inyo jovi na belong ani na group.

  7. #147
    murag mao2x raman ang giistoryahan nato diri sa ubang threads...hahaha...
    Merry Christmas everyone!

  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    - it is not the bible bro, it is the interpretations, which are different from the interpretations that were taught to us, we all have the same interpretations. on your part bro, you are not united, protestants don't include some books in the bible, why? it would only mean that you have different faiths/beliefs, wala pai truth ninyo, nag-ilog pa mo asa ang tinood nga Kristyano nga kang Kristo ninyo. sa amoa pareha ra tanan, wala nai debate debate basta puro gipangbuhat ang dapat buhaton ug mga experiments
    Sorry Jovs nga mutubag nasad ko ani kay nasagul jud ko anang term nga "mo" nimo. Ingun ka "wala pai truth ninyo, nag-ilog pa mo asa ang tinood nga Kristyano".

    Tungod man gud ni nga daghan ang tigtuis ug kamatuuran nga sama sa gibuhat ni Levi H. Dowling nga inyong Ascended Master. Mao nga daghan kaayo ang pagkabahin bahin sa kristiyanidad karun. Gani, wala pako gisupak ni slabdans ug breakeven dinhi, kay tungod kabalo sila nga as long as musulti kag sakto unya naa sa bible wala nay problema nila....diba?

    - we can never be misguided and deceived bro, first, there is a teaching like what really is Christ and God, then a meditation process is given to be done by students. students are always taught bro, NEVER TO BELIEVE that the teachings are true, but rather perform a particular medition taught. If a student really perform it, he alone can prove to himself, that everything taught is true. And it will never differ bro, it is the same to all teachers and students. Unlike sa inyo, naglahi lahi, wala na nagpareha, naay differences sa kada lain lain nga christian denomination, wala mo nagkahi-usa.
    - Di mana tinuod kay aduna man mey usa ka Espiritu. Syempre di jud mey magkausa sa uban ka magpabida man gud sila nga sila ra maoy sakto nga relihiyon. Sakto tong giingun sa usa dinhi nga nag ingun "usa ra ilang denominator" gapatuo sila nga kung dili musulod nila dili maluwas.

    - God and Christ are spiritual and so are souls and spirits. brain and 5 senses are physical only. you can never use your brain to understand God and Christ. When we meditate, we temporarily stop using our brains and 5 senses. we are activating or awaken our souls which are asleep/idle when our brains/5 senses are very active.

    - it is the belief/religion that created differences, just like protestants and catholics, they believe in Jesus as God, but why they have differences? If you have access to all of their teachings, you will see the similarity, it is bec there is only one God, there is only one source of all the teachings. Even Jesus said that his teachings are not his own, they are from God who sent him. They are all God's messengers which has only 1 basic common purpose, to help other people remember and love God only.

    - once a student is ready per teacher's evaluation, the teacher will baptize/annoint/Christened a student, so he or she can start teachingto others as his own students then someday, among his own studetns, he will also baptize/annoint a selected/tested students.
    Jovs the reason why the so called "potestants"and catholics doesnt agree with one another because catholics have statues and (Just like you) who doesnt believe on the finish work of the Lord Jesus which can only be received by faith only.

  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by wenlove24 View Post
    @ the one who insists on reincarnation:

    I'm not sure if I missed any part of the discourse but may I ask what is the purpose of reincarnation as taught by your religion?
    Im not one with the one who insists on reincarnation;

    But this is just to inform you, they beleive on reincarnation because they believe that no one will be abandoned by God in hell. Means as long as bad ang person he will be kept reincarnated hangtod mahimo syang good. Please refer the link below.

    The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Quote Originally Posted by %75life4Him View Post
    Im not one with the one who insists on reincarnation;

    But this is just to inform you, they beleive on reincarnation because they believe that no one will be abandoned by God in hell. Means as long as bad ang person he will be kept reincarnated hangtod mahimo syang good. Please refer the link below.

    The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Oh I see. Thank you for this information brother.

    The CCC (Catechism of the Catholic Church) states that:

    1013 Death is the end of man's earthly pilgrimage, of the time of grace and mercy which God offers him so as to work out his earthly life in keeping with the divine plan, and to decide his ultimate destiny. When "the single course of our earthly life" is completed,586 we shall not return to other earthly lives: "It is appointed for men to die once."587 There is no "reincarnation" after death.

    585 Heb 9:27 and just as people are appointed to die once, and then face judgment

    So there. My mind right now would reason that everything starts and goes back at One.

    One God, One body, one soul, one resurrection, one heaven, one hell.
    Notice how everything in our material existence tend to go forward, not back?
    Whether you believe in Jesus or Buddha, hasn't it crossed your mind why humans have the capacity to love and hate? Why we're bent on seeking justice with an iron clad will esp. when we're the ones wronged?

    Man according to the order of creation, as made in the image and likeness of God has only one soul and one body just like that of his Maker. Why else would He warn us that "Death will come like a thief in the night..." only to bring us back on this earth to live again?
    Jesus's second coming will mean the end of the temporal world as discussed in Revelations. We're still here aren't we?

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