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    Default Re: How Did The Concept (or idea) of Atheism Change Your Life?


    Quote Originally Posted by KlaytoN View Post
    Naa man gud daghan study niana brad noy wherein they found out the more intellectual ang tao, the lesser ang iyang pagka religious. I don't have the link as of now but i'm sure it's all over google nalang. Naa pa graphic representation ana makita nimo kung wa ko masayop "inversely proportional" ang graph niya.. hehe..

    haha!!! mao ba? di guro na tinuod oi... anyone can post almost anything on the web..relying on such without personal basis bai i think would also be considered as an act of faith..hehehe...you would have then violated the "faith is not enough" motto of aetheism.

    Do you believe what the survey says?

    if ever the survey was true though...i think it would only show that most intellectual people are Aetheist.
    but that does not necessarily follow that ALL Theists are Less intelluctual than aetheists..

    in the same way,it doesnt mean that you're wrong just because everybody else says otherwise.

    like in choices with A and B.
    it doesnt mean that 3/4 of the class who answered A are more intellectual than those who answered B which is just 1/4 of the total class population.
    especially when we don't know what the answer is.

    conclusion is, we cannot assume that scientists who does not believe in God are more intellectual than those scientists who does with statistics as our basis..
    Last edited by noy; 12-18-2012 at 08:31 PM.

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    Default Re: How Did The Concept (or idea) of Atheism Change Your Life?

    Quote Originally Posted by KlaytoN View Post
    Is there really a need or is there basis in even stating "WHO"

    Well it could be anybody's guess.. could be an "IT", or a dimension that cannot be described by stating "WHO"

    The first-cause argument is very weak in proving the existence of a god.
    That does not answer my query,
    but okay, in your statement you've mentioned "could be's"
    How could you prove now that God doesn't exist,
    it seems that such a statement is full of doubt nothing's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    if you'll ask the question who? that will only add up to the confusion.. the question there is how?
    Are you sure that it is "how".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    Are you sure that it is "how".
    Im not curious of the who, im more curious of the how.. like when presented with a theory, it dont really matter who proposed it but how it works..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    As for me it will always be that there is no absolution when it comes to morality.. we have the right to doubt if it is uncertain.
    of course you do.. no one has the right to take that away from you...
    even God,given that He could wouldn't do so i believe..

    one of the reasons why i am a theist is because i doubt aetheism
    and i'm sure you can say the same towards theism pud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    Im not curious of the who, im more curious of the how.. like when presented with a theory, it dont really matter who proposed it but how it works..
    How it works then,
    you still believe on things that is still to be proven,
    as you've mentioned "theories".
    Same as the existence of God, am I right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    How it works then,
    you still believe on things that is still to be proven,
    as you've mentioned "theories".
    Same as the existence of God, am I right.
    No single human know it yet, but we are getting there, someday i believe that we will eventually know how..

    We cannot prove nor disprove the existence of a God,. its like me asserting to you that the unicorn is true, i can say it with much conviction and there's no way for you to disprove it., as long as i insist and have faith it will always be true to me, and there's no way for you to tell me that im wrong coz there's no way for you to disprove it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    of course you do.. no one has the right to take that away from you...
    even God,given that He could wouldn't do so i believe..

    one of the reasons why i am a theist is because i doubt aetheism
    and i'm sure you can say the same towards theism pud.
    Like what Fr. George Coyne said: "God does not interfere with his creations, that's not the kind of God i know"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tirong-say View Post
    That does not answer my query,
    but okay, in your statement you've mentioned "could be's"
    How could you prove now that God doesn't exist,
    it seems that such a statement is full of doubt nothing's for sure.
    "could be's" is one of the main reason why there are thousands upon thousands of different church denominations all over the world. You multiply that with hundreds of different belief systems.

    Mao ra ni ako brad Tirong, that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Therefore the burden of proof lies on the theist and not on the unbeliever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    Like what Fr. George Coyne said: "God does not interfere with his creations, that's not the kind of God i know"
    i think He does, but just not in the way we know..
    perhaps in forms of situations and certain circumstance..

    but at the end of the day, freewill is totally ours

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