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  1. #1671

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?


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    break usa ta mga bro.. tagayi na daun.. peace!

  2. #1672

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @jovs
    bro, i really appreciate sa imong broad knowledge about your belief and what i can share also is try to experience the power of the Holy Spirit sa imong kinabuhi. Surely, God will give you a different set of eyes to understand reality.

    Lisud man bro imong tugkaron sad ang fullness sa ginoo using that pea-sized module in your brain (pineal gland). Moingon ka kabalo ka sa creation, reincarnation, etc. dili man gani ka maka explain tingali how can a single drop of sperm nahimong complex rational being.

    The very purpose of your existence as a man imong gi skip kay imong gusto magkiglevel/unite imong soul sa ginoo. Deal with the physical reality bro ayaw ilara imong self that your physical existence is only an illusion.

    My question:
    1) Does your impersonal God has a will and intellect? Describe his way of creation.
    2) Do you believe that we are created for a purpose and not only floating in the vast ocean of space?

    Same with you, we christians also believed in a universal law as well as the moral law. How could you explain the impersonal God's ability to give laws if he doesnt have a will? if you agree naa syay will, therefore he is PERSONAL.
    we all know that everything on this earthly plane is just temporary. so that is not the reality, it is just an illusion. reality doesn't chage. if a sperm by fertilizing an egg, created a baby inside the mother's womb, and when during birth, the baby will not take the 1st breath, the baby will die. why? bec the soul, enters the body during the 1st breath, and naa pa na lain but i cannot share more. the soul needs the body so he can explore and exist here sa earth. Just like the movie Avatar. There are writers and directors that studied in spiritual schools and apply them in their movies.

    1. i think i have already explained, but at the start is God alone, a vast amount of energy and everything. Then when Galaxies were created including our milky way which contains our solar system.
    2. first, we were perfect spiritual beings in the Kingdom of God (spiritual kingdom). we rebelled against God and so we were sent to the various galaxies and some of us landed on earth and we took a body in order to live and exist here. Some still perfect beings in the Kingdom of God were sent by God to various galaxies including our earth. their mission, to help those impure spiritual beings who rebelled against regain their perfect/pure status by teaching them/leading the right path to perfection and the way to back to God. Will and Love are part of the energy of God. A person can feel love, but love is not the person. God is Love. Love is God. if libog ka ana then it is bec of your notion that God is personal.

  3. #1673

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    di man na kahadlokan ang karma bro. pasalamat gani ko ug naay suffering ky pasabot ana, nagbayad nako sa akong utang nga bad karma.
    Dili naman angay nimo bayran bro. What is needed is Faith in Jesus Christ.
    Try to imagine his sufferings on the cross....the beatings, scourging, spitting, plucking his beard, etc...despite of his sinless life kung makatupong ba ta sa iyang sacrifice nga gibuhat in order to save us. Dili jud unta sya angayan but because of God's love for us humans, he willfully obeys to fulfill the will of the Father.

    ....his conclusive words, IT IS FINISHED! That is way beyond payment of your bad karma.

  4. #1674

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    @jovi

    dili man libog bro, sayon ra kayo sabton. Ang akong gikalibgan kay imong mga claims is from the bible (personal God). try daw quote bro sa Islam or Buddhist scriptures.

    ...and also para nimo illusion lang ang physical reality. Ang atheist moingon sad nga and spirit world maoy illusion coz physical ra ang reality for them.

    In Christianity bro, both the spiritual and physical existence are REAL. The problem has been addressed with coherence and consistency.

  5. #1675

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    i respect you bro. but have you considered God's offer in His Son? dili na jud ta maglabad ang ulo bro coz he already paid the price. Just try to listen to his invitation and find rest in Him.

    Sa imo pang statement bro, grabe kadako sa ginoo ug kita mura lang ug dust sa iyaha, how much more sa atong utok.....yes, sakto ka bro ug samot na jud kung ang imong gamiton ang pineal gland which is a pea-size in your brain to understand the fullness of God. Do you think na-grasp na nimo?

    In buddhism you pay, pay, pay (law of karma) in order to attain perfection. But in Christianity bro, Christ offers forgiveness. There's no need for you neglect yourself, detached from physical reality, no ego/desires....all that is required is obedience in him to find life's fulfillment and salvation.

    Jesus Christ is the perfection of God's will bro. He already paid it all. Ayaw na liboga imong kaugalingon pagtugkad sa kinatibuk-an sa ginoo coz youll be a loser in the end if the BIBLE is true!
    The Son of God is taught in the original Christianity, but sorry bro, the person who taught that originally is Jesus and what was taught was that God is Impersonal and so Christ, the Son is also impersonal. Mao man gud na ang problema sa inyong religion bro, magtinapulan ang mga followers, tagaan ug agi-anan padulong sa Ginoo, gusto man sab kugoson ni Jesus, or ibala. Gipadalhan sa Ginoo para naay guide sa agi-anan, gusto man pud nga kuguson, unya kamo pa gyud tanan mao nga wala pa gyud gikugos ninyo bisag usa, murag si Juan Tamad ba

    Yes bro, na grasp na nako, i have already a view of God, but not the totality of God yet. I have already a view of Christ, but not the totality also.

    Karma is both positive and negative, evil - bad karma, goodness - good karma. dili lng na puro bad karma. in case maayo ka and you have a lot of good karma, then paspas imong perfection, dili naka maglisod ug sabot sama aning akong gi share karon. so it just make your way to perfection easy. kung sa path padulong ni God, dili batoon, concrete ug smooth ug plain. but kung mas daghan imong bad karma, maglisod gyud ka ug sabot aning akong gipang share, unya kung sa path pa, batoon, rough, daghang libaong, tungasonon. tanan kalisod sa agi-anan naa. but dili lng ang karma, kung dili need pud nimo lakwon ang path padulong ni God. so ingon si Jesus, the Kingdom of God is within you, you need to meditate to journey the path towards God bec it is a spiritual journey.

  6. #1676

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    Dili naman angay nimo bayran bro. What is needed is Faith in Jesus Christ.
    Try to imagine his sufferings on the cross....the beatings, scourging, spitting, plucking his beard, etc...despite of his sinless life kung makatupong ba ta sa iyang sacrifice nga gibuhat in order to save us. Dili jud unta sya angayan but because of God's love for us humans, he willfully obeys to fulfill the will of the Father.

    ....his conclusive words, IT IS FINISHED! That is way beyond payment of your bad karma.
    lisod man gud ng faith faith lng bro, igo ra ta gipahuwat ana kung kanus-a muagi ang bus para mukuha nato unya diay to humana ang last trip, need na magbaklay. kamo nabyaan na sa sige ninyong hinuwat kami layo layo nami ug nalakwan ug hapit nami maabot sa atong padulngan tanan, ang Kingdom ni God. Si satan ky di man siya gusto muadto sa Kingdom ni God, wa mo kaila niya ug inyo siyang gipangutana kung naa pa bai muabot nga bus para mukuha ninyo. since dili siya gusto ky wala na unya siyay kauban diri giilad mo niya ug niingon nga mubalik pa tong bus bisag dili na.

    ang kanang inyo bro, ni symphatized mo sa nahiaguman ni Jesus, nga nalansang siya sa krus. but kung kabalo mo nganong nahitabo to, kung ako pa to, sugot ra ko basta matuman lng ang sugo sa Ginoo, ang pagpahinumdum sa mga tao sa God, ug pagtudlo sa maayong agi-anan padulong sa Kingdom of God.

  7. #1677

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    @jovi sige lang ka sulti the ang amo sayop ing ani na lng proven sad nako sa akong self ang true christianity... nga sakto ning ako...fake ng imo OK?

  8. #1678

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    @jovi

    dili man libog bro, sayon ra kayo sabton. Ang akong gikalibgan kay imong mga claims is from the bible (personal God). try daw quote bro sa Islam or Buddhist scriptures.

    ...and also para nimo illusion lang ang physical reality. Ang atheist moingon sad nga and spirit world maoy illusion coz physical ra ang reality for them.

    In Christianity bro, both the spiritual and physical existence are REAL. The problem has been addressed with coherence and consistency.
    kasagaran sa mga studyante sa school of Christianity ni Jesus, mga limpyo na ug halos na lng good karma ug dili na sila maglisod kung tudlu-an sila sa teachings as stated in the Bible. Kanang naa sa bible bro, lecture ug teachings gyud na para sa original/true Christianity, ang school para sa mga studyante tudlu-an sa mga teachers who were students also before and bihasa na sila ana. gihuwaman lng na sa inyong fake Christianity, nga usa ka religion nga ang mga preachers dili mga studyante sa original Christianity. So ang nahitabo, dili gyud mao ang interpretation. naay giingon sa bible, the real teachings are hidden from those who are spiritually immature and only shown to the spiritually mature.

  9. #1679

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    first, we were perfect spiritual beings and lived in the Kingdom of God which is the spiritual world, but bec we rebelled against God, we were banished to earth. It's up to the individual to re-purify his true self and go back to God and be accepted again in the Kingdom of God. There are so many ways to go back to God's Kingdom, some straight paths, some longer paths, some have dead ends and fake paths. Kung sipyat ug select sa path after you reached the dead end, there is always another time to go back and select a new path until the correct path is selected.
    nindota aning imo Jovi sige lang ug balik2x pag sayop pwedi ra e undo

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    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    @jovi sige lang ka sulti the ang amo sayop ing ani na lng proven sad nako sa akong self ang true christianity... nga sakto ning ako...fake ng imo OK?
    sure bro, no problem. but in reality, daghan naman pud nakabalo nga fake inyong christianity, dili ra man pud ako. at least pareha mi ug gibuhat tanan to prove that yours is fake. kami ha nga dli religion nga Christianity.

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