Blessed Pedro Calungsod

[Dagan_brad]

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btaw unsa kahay tinood

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

naay tsimosa naabot diri nga thread.. LOL

pareha ra bitaw ta tanan diri mga tsismosa hahahaha. tsismis ra pud bitaw ng inyo gikan sa bible, gikan sa iyong pastor/pari nga nangtsimis ra pud ninyo hahaha. ang tsismis gi tsimis, aw nahimo ng tinood

at least ako napamatud-an na nako sa akong Self ang tinood.

[slabdans]

Jovi unsa di ie ng illusion?

[MasterK]

base sad sa akong nahibaw-an nga version sa krus brad, poste (vertical) ra jud to gipabarog sa mt. calvary.. unya ang horizontal part sa krus mao to gi pas-an ni kristo padong sa calvary. gadupa gihigot iyang duha ka kamot.

maayo sad ni nga rason brad. nagkauyon inyong huna2x ni brad @xian ug nauyon sad ni sa katong research sad ni brad @noy.

ako nasabot nga kato diayng gipapas-an ni Jesus unya gipasa sad ngadto ni simon sirene, dili pa diay to krus ang porma ato. unya didto ra ang "stuaro" sa golgotha giugbok nag daan ug nahuwat nga ipasaka didto ang gipas-an nga gilansangan sa kamot nga pinadupa ug inya maoy gipapilit didto. busa naporma na ang krus nga atong gitohuan karon.

karon akong pangutana kon nasulat o masabot ba nato sa bibliya nga (hinubad na gikan sa greek) katong gipas-an ni jesus dili pa to cross?

[MasterK]

everyone read back basolon nato tong nag una2x question aning pormasa krus hahaha murag nakaila na ko dah! didto ni mag start atong pangutana unsay imong mahuna-hunaan pag makakita kag krus

sorry ninyo mga brad kung nakahatag kug kasamok sa inyong mga huna2x. akoy nagdala ani dinhi isyoha mga brad. akoa binata ra ni gud. dili ko experto aning mga buntanga.

pero kani maoy pinakauna nako nakit-an ani dinhi. ako wahi ra diay ko ani.

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mao ning mark of the beast or mark of his name o:
A tradition of the Church which our fathers have inherited, was the adoption of the words "cross" and "crucify".

These words are nowhere to be found in the Greek of the New Testament. These words are mistranslations, a "later rendering", of the Greek words stauros and stauroo. Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words says, "STAUROS denotes, primarily, an upright pole or stake ... Both the noun and the verb stauroo, to fasten to a stake or pole, are originally to be distinguished from the ecclesiastical form of a two-beamed cross.

The shape of the latter had its origin in ancient Chaldea (Babylon), and was used as the symbol of the god Tammuz (being in the shape of the mystic Tau, the initial of his name) ... By the middle of the 3rd century A.D. the churches had either departed from, or had travestied, certain doctrines of the Christian faith.

In order to increase the prestige of the apostate ecclesiastical system pagans were received into the churches apart from regeneration by faith, and were permitted largely to retain their pagan signs and symbols. Hence the Tau or T, in its most frequent form, with the cross piece lowered, was adopted .

Dr. Bullinger, in the Companion Bible, appx. 162, states, "crosses were used as symbols of the Babylonian Sun-god ... It should be stated that Constantine was a Sun-god worshipper ... The evidence is thus complete, that the Lord was put to death upon an upright stake, and not on two pieces of timber placed at any angle."
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What is the "mark of the beast" of which we read in Rev 13:16-17, Rev 14:9-11, Rev 15:2, Rev 16:2, Rev 19:20 and Rev 20:4 - a mark on people's foreheads and on their right hands? Rev 14:11 reveals the mark to be "the mark of his (the beast's) name." Have we not read about the mystic Tau, the T, the initial of Tammuz's name, his mark? This same letter T (Tau) was written in Egyptian hieroglyphics and in the old Wemitic languages as, representing the CROSS. Different interpretations have been given to the "mark of the beast", and also the cross has been suggested. There has been some research done on the strange crosses found on quite a few statues of pagan priests, on their foreheads. However, these scholars have been unable to come to an agreement. Conclusive evidence may still come (see among others: Dr. F.J. Dolger, Antike und Christentum, vol. 2, pp. 281-293).

Let us rather use the true rendering of the Scriptural words stauros and stauro, namely "stake" and "impale" and eliminate the un-Scriptural "cross" and "crucify".


read the full history at: http://www.albatrus.org/english/religio ... _cross.htm
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[SOULFLY666]

important is dungog sa atong manga pinoy c calungsod...

[necrotic freak]

naa napod ta aning kung wala nasuwat sa bibliya sayop.

[slabdans]

nahinumdom kos akong silingan sauna sa probensya...mag lalis gani to sila wa gyud magpa lupig nila..pag abot sa kapitan gipangasab-an silang duha kay puros man sila sayop

[SioDenz]

important is dungog sa atong manga pinoy c calungsod...

Nganu kada mention sa news, pakapinan mag First VISAYAN Saint?

[SioDenz]

naa napod ta aning kung wala nasuwat sa bibliya sayop.

Pero if Gidili sa bibliya, sayop na jud na sah?