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  1. #461

    Default Re: Blessed Pedro Calungsod


    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    pde siguro bro oi total murag 3hours raman siguro tagal ato pag lansang dina nila kinaanglan baatan kay ila mang gihapon patyon bahalag matagak
    mga 6 hours pud to kapin bro

  2. #462

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    mga 6 hours pud to kapin bro
    kaya ra guro to ma punggan sa bukog

  3. #463

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    personal ni nga pagsabut ako bai ha...dili ni official jud...wala niy nihil obstat akong statement..hehehe

    as plain as what the encyclopedia states bai,before Christianity the cross have had many meanings.
    before Christ, when people see a cross, i think what would come into their minds kay
    criminals,shame punishment and even death.

    but the passion and sacrifice of our Lord has changed its meaning..at least for most Christians
    the cross now resembles victory over sin on the cross.
    we see crosses all over..people don't believe in God or in Jesus even wear cross necklaces,earings...
    so depende ra jud na kung unsa atong pagtan.aw sa cross...a cross can be just a plus sign or a straight X..
    and a cross can certainly symbolize Christ's Love for us.

    like si Buddha diba naay swatiska sa iyang chest...it doesnt mean that Budhha was a nazi does it?
    or the nazi were buddhist.
    symbolism is deep bai..

    ang ang usa ka pagan,mugamit ug cross for some pagan rituals or something...
    then that cross would obviously be a pagan cross...

    if a person kneels before a cross remembering the sacrifice of a loving savior, then
    that is a Christian cross.

    i believe Jesus changed the meaning of the cross from whatever shameful origin it has
    in the same way He changes our shameful past into powerful testimonies of His grace and Love.
    pero notice the word "HEATHEN" bay noy. So atong sabton na ang cross is came from pagan? mismo ang encyclopedia nay ni ingon bay noy na heathen symbol na siya.

  4. #464

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    naa sad koy gi drawing before for a certain lent drawing contest,. but i cant scan it now kay naa sa school.. lain sad to nga klase sa pag lansang, which is my own depiction of the crucifixion of Jesus.
    lain puy ato bai...kung mutoo kag Ginoo kay mura nakog samin nimu or vice versa...
    kay puros ta musikero ug karun lang ko kahibaw nga maayo pud ka mudrawing diay..hahahaha
    i studied arts and i've always loved art.

  5. #465

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    u mean this passage?

    Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."
    -John 20:27

    like i pointed out earlier, pwede man sa hand i lansang but, they would have to tie Jesus' arm and body so that the cartilage and muscles in our hand would not tear apart due to the pulling weight of our body..
    bay Xian120 murag same ra man mo sa gisulti sa natgeo ba to history channel ba kaha to same mog statement bay.

  6. #466

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    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    kaya ra guro to ma punggan sa bukog
    nipis mani atong buko sa kamot, kong imo ning lansangan di mana malapos, instead the nails will break the bones in our hand.. so all the weight of our body if unsupported will tear apart the muscles in our hand

    like this


  7. #467

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterK View Post
    giingnan man sad gud ko ato nga importante gyud kuno ang krus kay naa kuno mabasa ana sa 1 corinto kalimot lang unsa to mga numero ato. basta morag ang ako nadungog ato niya ing-ani man tingali toh: hinanggaw ang mensahe sa krus alang sa mga sinalikway pero maoy gahom sa dios para namo nga giluwas" basta morag duol doul ra toh ana iya giingon wala lang kaau ko ato katimaan gyud. para nako gud kung sa duwa pang chess mora gyud ko nakan-an ug rayna. wala gud ko ikatubag ato, hehehe. ahaka nuon
    matay mster, sa akong pagbasa sa biblia...wala man jud ko kabantay nga niingun atong Ginoo or bisan kinsa sa iyang tinun.an
    nga kinahanglan ta mahibaw sa saktong porma sa krus para mahimu tang authentic nga Christian...Lol
    kalimti natong nagstorya nimu ana master oi...basin mas labawng galibug pa to..

    bahin sa verse nga imu gi share...posible ang pasabut ato kay hinangaw amg krus sa mga di mutoo..of course ang cross bya ang silot sa mga kriminal ug usa kini ka makauulaw nga paagi sa kamatayun...apan ang krus nato nga mituo ni Jesus
    ug sa iyang sakripisyo sa krus...ang krus nahimu na kining simbolo sa iyang gugma...
    i think it has nothing to do with its form.

  8. #468

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    Quote Originally Posted by defender_1611 View Post
    bay Xian120 murag same ra man mo sa gisulti sa natgeo ba to history channel ba kaha to same mog statement bay.
    ngara tingali na nko nakuha, im not sure what certain show you are talking about, naa man gud daghan shows nga akong nakit-an which are saying the same things..

  9. #469

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    lain puy ato bai...kung mutoo kag Ginoo kay mura nakog samin nimu or vice versa...
    kay puros ta musikero ug karun lang ko kahibaw nga maayo pud ka mudrawing diay..hahahaha
    i studied arts and i've always loved art.
    haha lage, kabantay pud ko, hilig pud ko'g drawing2 man since bata pko, mao jud na akong una nga hobby, wa pman gud ko nkat-on ug pang chix sauna, nyahahaha... mo appreciate ko ug mga artists noy like yourself..

  10. #470

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    nipis mani atong buko sa kamot, kong imo ning lansangan di mana malapos, instead the nails will break the bones in our hand.. so all the weight of our body if unsupported will tear apart the muscles in our hand

    like this

    adto nato ilansang dapit sa pulso bro basin pde

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