The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

[slabdans]

ang tanan nga makita sa imong mata bro, illusion ra na ky dili na mao ang reality.

kung maka eskapo ka ana nga illusion bro, you will know that God and Christ are impersonal.

ahh sa ato pa bro ug makapatay ko illusion ra di ie ug maghimo kog matarong sa ako isig kawo illusion, bisan mag unsa pa ko illusion ra di ie na kay tanan nakong buhat nakita man sa akong mata

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

ahh sa ato pa bro ug makapatay ko illusion ra di ie ug maghimo kog matarong sa ako isig kawo illusion, bisan mag unsa pa ko illusion ra di ie na kay tanan nakong buhat nakita man sa akong mata

ang kamatayon bro, illusyon ra, pero ayaw pakamatay ky daku kaayo na ug karma, pila pa ka kinabuhi usa nimo mabayran.

ang nakita sa imong mata illusyon, ang imong gibuhat mao ta ang nakita sa imong mata, but behind that mao to ang tinood. like nagbuhat ka ug maayo sa isig ka tawo bec of love and kindness and compassion nimo, mao na kung magbuhat ug maayo out of something in return or pakita lng nga maayo, then that act is nothing.

mostly, it is about your real self. asa ang tinood ug asa ang illusion. example, kita ka sa imong whole self sa hayag, makaingon ka, o mao ni akong self, macho ug gwapo (bukad sad ang atay ). but kung sa ngitngit, in complete darkness, wa ka kakita sa imong body, makaingon ba ka nga o, ako ni self? naa pay lain, your whole body, complete body parts, makaingon ka nga a mao ni akong true self. now let's say for example, naputol imong mga tiil, kaingon gihapon ka nga a, ako ni self? let's say naputol imong mga kamot, imoha gihapon ba nga self? wala na kay body, imoha gihapon ka nga self?

[slabdans]

ang kamatayon bro, illusyon ra, pero ayaw pakamatay ky daku kaayo na ug karma, pila pa ka kinabuhi usa nimo mabayran.

ang nakita sa imong mata illusyon, ang imong gibuhat mao ta ang nakita sa imong mata, but behind that mao to ang tinood. like nagbuhat ka ug maayo sa isig ka tawo bec of love and kindness and compassion nimo, mao na kung magbuhat ug maayo out of something in return or pakita lng nga maayo, then that act is nothing.

mostly, it is about your real self. asa ang tinood ug asa ang illusion. example, kita ka sa imong whole self sa hayag, makaingon ka, o mao ni akong self, macho ug gwapo (bukad sad ang atay ). but kung sa ngitngit, in complete darkness, wa ka kakita sa imong body, makaingon ba ka nga o, ako ni self? naa pay lain, your whole body, complete body parts, makaingon ka nga a mao ni akong true self. now let's say for example, naputol imong tiil, kaingon gihapon ka nga a, ako ni self? let's say naputol ang tiil, imoha gihapon ba nga self? wala na kay body, imoha gihapon ka nga self?

so ang pagpakasla illusion ra na meaning wlay karma

palihog ko back read bro page 125 mao to importanti

[defender_1611]

repost lang ko ni kay wala man tubaga.


@jovi: asa naman ang 4 noble truths and 8 fold path sir? wala man nimo completoha ug tubag......wait ko sa tubag sa remaining unanswered questions sir.

[defender_1611]

motoo ko that there is only one God but to explain God in trinity will make it complicated instead of making it understandable Isa. 43:10 says, for a person to become a witness of God he must believe, know and understand that he is, before Him there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Him.

lisod kaayo gamiton ang trinity to explain the Godhead kay ingon ni Pablo sa unang Korinto 15:27-28 nga ang tanang mga butang ipailalom sa anak ug tataw kaayo nga walay labot ang amahan ug human mapailalom ang tanang mga butang ngadto sa anak ang anak ipasakop sa amahan nga maoy nagpahiluna sa tanang mga butang ilalom kaniya(anak) aron ang Dios mahimong ibabaw sa tanan.

so klaro kaayo nga dili sila co-equal labaw jud ang amahan unya ang Dios walay kamatayon apan ang anak nga pong pas sa trinity Dios pud namatay man, nya unsaon man pud pagka co-eternal nga namatay man siya natapos ang iya papel pagka anak didto sa krus. And in Acts 4:10 God (father the eternal Spirit) raised him( Jesus Christ) from the dead. So may Dios nga nagbanhaw nya. Pwedi diay ng ang Dios gibanhaw sa lain pong Dios?

backread ta gamay sir kay tua ra ang tubag didto. aw e repost nalang nako.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

so ang pagpakasla illusion ra na meaning wlay karma

palihog ko back read bro page 125 mao to importanti

duha ka klase ang karma bro, positive ug negative. kung kaayuhan, good karma, kung bad/evil, bad karma. walai sala, naa lng bayranan nga karma kung evil. Ang commandments are all about LOVE, you will see the action of loving, but you don't see LOVE. If your act is not of LOVE, then bad karma, if it is LOVE then good karma. the action that you see is the illusion, the feeling behind it that you don't see is the reality. ayay, nagkahinayhinay naman hinoon ni ug gawas.

God is impersonal, ang glimpse niya is, God is Love. a person may love, but the feeling of Love is not the person. If you want to know about it, feel love without an object of your love. Just the feeling of Love lng. if you can try, pagmata nimo, pagligo, pagkaon nimo, pagpadung nimo trabaho, pag-abot sa office, pag-uli nimo hangtud before ka matulog, feel ug LOVE pirmi without any object, just the feeling. kung love nimo imong ofcmate, i feel love pud nimo , kung love nimo ang Cebu, i feel love pud nimo, pero impt balik ka sa wai object nga LOVE. kung too ka, try lng, wala mai mawala ana, and that's not evil bro. that is God for God is Love.

[freak_on_a_leash]

Amen nalang ko ani kay para man sa atong kaayohan

[defender_1611]

motoo ko that there is only one God but to explain God in trinity will make it complicated instead of making it understandable Isa. 43:10 says, for a person to become a witness of God he must believe, know and understand that he is, before Him there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Him.

lisod kaayo gamiton ang trinity to explain the Godhead kay ingon ni Pablo sa unang Korinto 15:27-28 nga ang tanang mga butang ipailalom sa anak ug tataw kaayo nga walay labot ang amahan ug human mapailalom ang tanang mga butang ngadto sa anak ang anak ipasakop sa amahan nga maoy nagpahiluna sa tanang mga butang ilalom kaniya(anak) aron ang Dios mahimong ibabaw sa tanan.

so klaro kaayo nga dili sila co-equal labaw jud ang amahan unya ang Dios walay kamatayon apan ang anak nga pong pas sa trinity Dios pud namatay man, nya unsaon man pud pagka co-eternal nga namatay man siya natapos ang iya papel pagka anak didto sa krus. And in Acts 4:10 God (father the eternal Spirit) raised him( Jesus Christ) from the dead. So may Dios nga nagbanhaw nya. Pwedi diay ng ang Dios gibanhaw sa lain pong Dios?

dara sir akong explanation. Hope maka tabang ko sa imong kalibog about trinity.

Biblical Evidence for the Godhead

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and THESE THREE ARE ONE." —1st John 5:7

The Bible, God’s Word, proclaims that there is ONE God (Deuteronomy 6:4), Who has revealed Himself to mankind in three distinct Persons; namely, God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Although the term “Trinity” is not found in the Scriptures, the word “Godhead” most certainly is — in 3 places!

Romans 1:19, 20 states…

“Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD; so that they are without excuse.”

Some people (such as Muslims) foolishly claim that belief in a Godhead (aka, Trinity) means worship of three gods (polytheism). This simply reflects their woeful ignorance of the Word of God. The LORD our God is ONE Lord (Deuteronomy 6:4); but He does exist in three Persons, i.e., a Trinity.

Acts 17:29 states…

“Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the GODHEAD is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.”

Colossians 2:9…

“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the GODHEAD bodily.”

1st John 5:7 is in the Original Greek. If there were no other verse of the King James Bible testifying of the Godhead, 1st John 5:7 would be enough for any Bible-believer to know that God exists in three Persons — the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit…

“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and THESE THREE ARE ONE.” —1st John 5:7

Now if you have a modern corrupt bible, then you won’t find 1st John 5:7 correctly rendered. I went out and bought a literal translation of the Bible in Greek and Hebrew, based on the “Textus Receptus” (or Received Text). It contains 1st John 5:7 just as the King James Bible faithfully renders. The translators of the King James Bible rejected certain manuscripts as heretical. The manuscripts which they did accept became know as the “Received Text.”


How Can One God Exist in Three Persons?

Some people feel like they have to provide an answer for every question. Well, that’s not true. Doctors are still perplexed as to what causes the human body to sneeze; but it’s an obvious fact. Mankind’s brightest secular scientists cannot with any certainty tell us how life began, nor can they tell us how big the universe is, nor can they create even the simplest of life forms in a laboratory. It makes infinite more sense to accept the Bible’s claim that God spoke the universe into existence by the Word of His mouth (2nd Peter 3:5). Ironically, the same people who refuse to believe the Bible without proof; readily believe the bogus tales of unsaved scientists, even without as much as a single shred of credible evidence to support their claims. This clearly evidences the wickedness of man’s heart against his divine Creator.

Colossians 2:2, 9 acknowledges the Godhead as a “mystery” …

“…to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ… For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”

Colossians 2:9 plainly teaches that the Godhead became incarnate in the fleshly body of the Lord Jesus Christ. 1st Timothy 3:16 declare the same truth…

“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh…”

Someone has said that "BIBLE" in acronym forms means:

B = Basic
I = Instructions
B = Before
L = Leaving
E = Earth

I like that. Too many people refuse to accept God at His Word and continually put God on trial in their mind. Can anyone really explain how ONE individual can exist in three Persons? I don’t see how. Some Bible-teachers like to use the fact that humans are composed of body, soul and spirit; but we are still one person; not three. This is not a good example of the Godhead. I can’t give you a good example, and won’t try. God is God and we don’t have to figure out how to describe Him to an unsaved world of Christ-rejecters. To those who believe, no explanation is necessary; to those who believe not, no explanation is possible. Let us just accept God as the Bible portrays Him.

The Scriptures identify each Person of the Godhead as “God.” The word "Godhead" is a Bible word (Acts 17:29, Romans 1:20, Colossians 2:9).

The Father is called God.
Romans 15:6, “That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.”


Jesus is called God.
“And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.” 1st Timothy 3:16

Hebrews 1:8, “But unto the Son he [God] saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.”

Colossians 2:9, “For in him [Jesus] dwelleth ALL the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”


The Holy Ghost is called God.
Acts 5:3-4, “But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? ...thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.”

1st Timothy 3:16, “And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: GOD WAS manifest in the flesh, JUSTIFIED IN THE SPIRIT, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.”


The Godhead and Our Salvation

God the Father sent His only begotten Son (John 3:16).
John 5:36, “But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.”


The Son was sent to be the propitiation (to appease the wrath of God) for our sins.
1st John 4:10, “Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.”


The Holy Spirit reproves us, teaches us, guides us and testifies of Jesus Christ.
John 14:26, “But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”

John 15:26, “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me.”


More Scriptures Testifying of the Godhead

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost." —Matthew 28:19,20

"And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him [Jesus], and a voice came from heaven [God the Father], which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased." —Luke 3:22


Each Person of the Godhead SPEAKS AUDIBLY in the Bible.

God the Father SAID of Jesus in Matthew 3:17... "This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."


Jesus SAID in John 10:30, "I and my Father are one."


The Holy Ghost SAID in Acts 13:2... "Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them."


Each Person of the Godhead was Operative in the Old Testament.

The Father — Isaiah 64:8, “But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.”


Jesus — 1st Corinthians 10:1-4, 9, “Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; And did all eat the same spiritual meat; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: AND THAT ROCK WAS CHRIST. Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.”


The Holy Ghost — Hebrews 3:7-11, “Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness: When your fathers tempted me, proved ME, and saw MY WORKS forty years. Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways. So I sware in my wrath, they shall not enter into my rest.)”
From the very first chapter in the Bible, God makes it known that He consists of more than one Person--

Genesis 1:26-27, “And God said, LET US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness...So God created man in his own image, in the image of God [not angels. the "us" can only refer to God.] created he him.”

Genesis 3:22, “And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil...”

When Isaiah had a vision of the Lord sitting upon a throne, the Lord asked him a question…

Isaiah 6:8, “Also I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for US? Then said I, Here am I; send me.”

In the Old Testament, we find that God has a Son (Proverbs 30:4, Psalm 2:7-12) and a Spirit (Isaiah 40:13, 2nd Samuel 23:2, Judges 3:10, et cetera). We also find that the LORD [Jesus] said that the LORD [God the Father] would send Him to the earth (Zechariah 2:10,11).

[slabdans]

duha ka klase ang karma bro, positive ug negative. kung kaayuhan, good karma, kung bad/evil, bad karma. walai sala, naa lng bayranan nga karma kung evil. Ang commandments are all about LOVE, you will see the action of loving, but you don't see LOVE. If your act is not of LOVE, then bad karma, if it is LOVE then good karma. the action that you see is the illusion, the feeling behind it that you don't see is the reality. ayay, nagkahinayhinay naman hinoon ni ug gawas.

God is impersonal, ang glimpse niya is, God is Love. a person may love, but the feeling of Love is not the person. If you want to know about it, feel love without an object of your love. Just the feeling of Love lng. if you can try, pagmata nimo, pagligo, pagkaon nimo, pagpadung nimo trabaho, pag-abot sa office, pag-uli nimo hangtud before ka matulog, feel ug LOVE pirmi without any object, just the feeling. kung love nimo imong ofcmate, i feel love pud nimo , kung love nimo ang Cebu, i feel love pud nimo, pero impt balik ka sa wai object nga LOVE. kung too ka, try lng, wala mai mawala ana, and that's not evil bro. that is God for God is Love.

palihog ko balik sa page 125 bro kato moy importanti ayaw ko tintala

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

repost lang ko ni kay wala man tubaga.


@jovi: asa naman ang 4 noble truths and 8 fold path sir? wala man nimo completoha ug tubag......wait ko sa tubag sa remaining unanswered questions sir.

The Four Noble Truths
1. Life means suffering.
2. The origin of suffering is attachment.
3. The cessation of suffering is attainable.
4. The path to the cessation of suffering.

The Noble Eightfold Path
1. Right View
2. Right Intention
3. Right Speech
4. Right Action
5. Right Livelihood
6. Right Effort
7. Right Mindfulness
8. Right Concentration