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  1. #1161

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by randymunz View Post
    lisod mubarog ning doctrine sa trinity kay ingon nila distinct persons. father is not the son and the son is not the father, and the father is not the holy spirit and the holy spirit is not the father, different persons ni sila sa ila doctrine, pero ang problema karon unsaon pag-gawas nga isa lang nga lahi ang amahan sa anak mao pud ang anak, nya ang holy spirit lahi sa father mao pud ang father nya sa ila doctrine God ang Father, God ang Son nya God ang Holy Spirit nya distinct persons demudo ang mogawas tulo ka God's.

    Nya ang ila doctrine nag-ingon co-existence, co-eternal and co-powerful. unsaon man pagka co-eternal ni Jesus Christ nga may sinugdanan sya, nya may katapusan kay namatay man sya? nya lain pa jud unsaon pagka co-powerful nga ingon ni Jesus mismo, ang amahan labaw kay kanako. Nya ingon pud siya pagkabanhaw nya ayaw ko hikapa kay wa pako kaadto sa akong amahan ug inyong amahan, akong Dios ug inyong Dios.
    Bro, wala nay laing doctrine that best explains God sa atong human level, only the Christian concept sa TRINITY. Kung imong i dig deeper ang concept sa impersonal God, mas lisud tuohan coz it will end up only in pantheism. Kung transcendent being like in Islam, dili sad ma explain kung unsa/kinsa sya kay general ra kayo.

  2. #1162

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by NapoleonBlownapart View Post
    Ahh.. mao ba.. lahi man d.i kag Jesus nga gihisgutan jovi.. hahahaha.. bantog ra di ta magkasinabot..

    So give back to Caesar what is Caesar’s... Caesar must be Persian..

    When someone tells a story that's inconsistent from history then you know what kind of story it is.

    hahahahaha.. this made my day..
    hahahahaha. tagbaw hinoon ko ug basa History, giganahan hinoon ko. Dugay naman na tsismis nako bro that Jesus was Persian. wala ko nitoo but reading the History, murag convince nako Persian si Jesus. ni state na gani ko daan if wala ko masayop. Sayop ko ky ingon man ko during the time of Jesus. Maybe dili siya Persian, Jew siya/sila but bec of the influences sa Persian Empire, he is following the religion of Persia which is Zoroastrianism mao seguro considered Persian na lng siya. monotheistic baya na ang Zoroastrianism. Gi consider gani nga pinaka una nga monotheistic belief but sa Egypt naa na nagpraktis monotheism didto. but gisulti nako, Persian daw bec pud sa iyang papa. hehehe tsismis

    But before sa mga Romans, ang lugar ni Jesus sauna sa wa pa siya natawo ky under sa Persian Empire, then during the Roman-Persian War, which involves other countries/territories napildi ang Persians, apil ang lugar ni Jesus. bisan tood ug under sa Rome, the people remained the same, wala sila nahimong Romans. Pareha gud Jerusalem under sa Roman Empire but the people remained Jews, they did not become Romans. Pareha gud sa Pilipinas, bisan tood under ta sa Spain sauna, ang mga tawo, Pilipino gihapon.

    Maong ang mga three kings mga Indian Magi, most parts of India esp the northeastern part were under the Persian Empire. So maong uban makaingon nga Persians sila ky sakop man ang most of India sa Persian Empire but were originally Indians. wala ka ni wonder, nga sa kalayo sa mga Three Kings, kabalo sila nga naay matawo, si Jesus? Kalayo anang India ug Israel. The main religion of Persian empire is Zoroastrianism. The followers of Zoroaster including the three kings, were waiting for Jesus. Jesus at his young age, practiced the teachings of Zoroaster. that's why, wala moy nakita sa Bible between pag 12-30 ni Jesus, ky didto siya sa India he continues his studies there, didto pud siya sa Egypt ug mga silingan nga dapit, learning many teachings from different sages/teachers, including the teachings of Buddha.

  3. #1163

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    asa man? wala kay sinuwat dha kanag from 12-30 years old of preaching ni Jesus, ayaw ng puros storya...pag wala gani aw gamit na sad kog solvent ani, adto ko mangutana ni budha

  4. #1164

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    bro, ang ako lang kung bugalbugalon ug bayot, tomboy, disable, etc...unsa kaha ang klase sa life niya sunod? heheh.

    bro, since ang soul nato kay dili man either male or female....posible ba bro nga sa reincarnation ang taw nga himabaye kayo, chix tirada karon, next life niya kay ipaangkan siya kadaghan? nah, magbantay lang jud ang mga hiliig chix aning kalakiha....
    sa akong study about reincarnation and karma, these are laws nga wala gyud lusot, maski ang tawo wala pa kabalo ky gitudlu-an naman sila daan to do good, and if dili sila, bayad gyud based on the actions. it's deception that sins are forgiven and just by believing Jesus as a God, ma save na, mapasaylo na. para ang tawo, after thinking napasaylo na sa iyang sala by confession kunuhay to priest or direct to Jesus, maka buhat na pud ug laing evil. Mo pray dayon ni Jesus nga makasasala ko Jesus, but by believing in you, i am already saved and forgiven, walai paki si Jesus sa imong belief ug confession, ang iyang concern is more the person nga dili gyud makabuhat ug evil based sa ilang teachings from God. gitudlo ni Jesus bro, pure in heart, they can see God. pasabot ana pure goodness, no evil mind/thoughts, no evil words, no evil deeds. kinsa man ang lipay ana bro tungod ana nga deception, si satanas. no problem with religion, but bec of false beliefs, daghan nangdaot ana, magpakasala lng gihapon ky mapasaylo man, mao bitaw na kusog kaayo ang corruption nato diri, thinking nga just by donating to the church, justified ra ang kwarta gikan corruption. by confession, napasaylo ra ang sala nga nahimo sa corruption, ky anyway ako ra pud bitaw gihatag sa church nimo. ana dayon ang hunahuna, bahini lng ko God ug 90% sa maong kwarta, 10% lng imo ky ako baya ng idea

    sa karon bro, makaingon ka nga dili tinood na, but when you are the one experiencing them, that's the time makaingon nga tinood gyud diay ning karma ug reincarnation. experience is the best teacher. but don't wait sa mga bati nga experience before you will learn. dapat ibutang na daan sa hunahuna, sabton na daan para there are no need for experiences ky nakasabot naman ka.

    maski si Buddha ug Jesus, wala kalosot ana, they sufferered during their lifetimes bec of the bad karma from past lives. Si Jesus kabalo na siya nga naa sya byranan nga karma, and worst gyud ang bayad ky gi pasanginlan siya nga rebel, unya gi crucify.

  5. #1165

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    all this talk about God and Jesus is just hilarious hahaha,

    by the way Zoroastrian ka @jovi?
    Last edited by Xian120; 12-06-2012 at 01:10 PM.

  6. #1166

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    No God no confusion.. hahaha

  7. #1167

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    Zoroastrian ka @jovi?
    dili pud bro, sa akong istorya, i have no religion, but they have common teachings, mao tong akoa. the similarities are from God, the differences are made by humans. Ingon baya si Jesus, ang iyang gipang teach dili iyaha, but from God who sent him. Messenger siya/sila ni God. Same ni Buddha, ang tinood nga teachings nya gikan gihapon ni God, and so with Zoroaster, Muhammad, and Krishna ug daghan pa apil na akong teacher.

  8. #1168

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    asa man? wala kay sinuwat dha kanag from 12-30 years old of preaching ni Jesus, ayaw ng puros storya...pag wala gani aw gamit na sad kog solvent ani, adto ko mangutana ni budha
    ask ko nimo balik, prove to me asa si Jesus pag 12-30 nya?

  9. #1169

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    ask ko nimo balik, prove to me asa si Jesus pag 12-30 nya?
    nayabag na nangutana man gani ko ikaw may nag study ana...aw nangutana man di ie ka sa w8 sa ha, hurot nman solvent gabie palit sa q balik

  10. #1170

    Default Re: The DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. unsa inyong knowledge about God?

    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    dili pud bro, sa akong istorya, i have no religion, but they have common teachings, mao tong akoa. the similarities are from God, the differences are made by humans. Ingon baya si Jesus, ang iyang gipang teach dili iyaha, but from God who sent him. Messenger siya/sila ni God. Same ni Buddha, ang tinood nga teachings nya gikan gihapon ni God, and so with Zoroaster, Muhammad, and Krishna ug daghan pa apil na akong teacher.
    Aw we dont know that for sure, speculation rnang imoha jovs nothing more, or gisultian rka ana sa secret nimo nga benefactor.. I think Buddha, Zoroaster, Muhammad, Krishna and even Jesus are too overated by people who seek for spiritual truth in their lives,. I think Buddha's teachings originally was just simple, through time it became involved with too much mystical ideas added and added and added, same is true to other prophets...

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