What probable month is the birth of JESUS?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

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Ka char ba ninyo hahahahaha !!!!

Those people who knew me way back maka ingon jud na ikaw na ga gamit sa account karon ? Hehehe .

This is rare jud because lisod itapok ang ATHEIST , THEIST and AGNOSTICS in one room where makita nimo ga kampay s abaso , ga apir ug ga agbayanay in a metaphor way of speaking.

Commending lang of a good job for being CIVILIZED , RESPECTFUL and SENSIBLE .

Now back to the topic ..... ako walay 13th month pay but I dont deal much anymore if EC 25 is the correct day or not . I am anticipating for the ADVENT SEASON lang .

[noy]

i guess that is what Jesus was saying about Loving one another as ourselves
Char! Lol

[Breakeven]

I totally agree ninyo bro.....in which I believe also that through LOVE the world was framed by God and through LOVE the world was saved by God.

Pina Og Mandino pa....

"I will make love my greatest weapon and none on whom I call can defend against its force. My reasoning they may counter; my speech they may distrust; my apparel they may disapprove; my face they may reject; and even my bargains may cause them suspicion; yet my love will melt all hearts liken to the sun whose rays soften the coldest clay. I will greet this day with love in my heart."

char!

[noy]

abi nakog I WILL MAKE LOVE...make love my weapon diay...Lol

[kageron]

mao man gani na ako gi-ingon sa ako previous post nga wa unta tay dapat lalisan ana kay ang importante ang value ug meaning sa atong gi celebrate;

karon unsa man ang atong gi celebrate? kini ei: kalinaw, paghinatagay, pakipag kapwa-tao kana mga sampol sa kaayohan nga gihatag anang pasko dili ang petsa...lisod d i ng dawaton? ngano mag lisod lisod pa man tag pakita anang mga petsa nga sayop? unsa may intention nimo ana? para lang gyud ma gubot or mag libog?
kay pananglitan kita nimo nga sayop ang petsa ana kung nasayod kag unsa gyud ang pasko...so what its just a date.

wala ta mag celebrate ug date ug months, bisan naa pay mangabot nga mga bag-ong discoveries dha its still the same.

it's not the date that people would remember since it's how meaningful we celebrate it. some memorable lines goes like this:

"season of sharing and giving"
"13th month pay asa naka"
"Lahi ang pasko sa pinas"
"Simbang gabie"

ang uban bitaw dra dili mo celebrate og pasko pero nganu mo attend man og simbang gabie? kay kyog sa ilang friends manimba. kaon dayon puto sikwati and also they give tribute and respect when attending.

Even kids now a days believe that santa would put some gifts and candies on socks that they placed and hang. Soon2x pud ko ana sauna pag mata nako pag buntag nawagtang ang medyas abi nakog gi kuha ni santa gi labhan na d i sakong mama hahahaha.

pero pra nako, di mn mag matter if imo dawaton or mo attend ka ana. naa mn tay ginaingon nga you can obey "some protocols or rules or ambot unsa jud ang right term" pero you're heart wasn't really in it. mura ra siya to show some respect for those who practice that.

imo pasabot contra gusto nga pag ka obey.

Actually, kato student pako, I tried to ask mn sa admin nga di ko moapil pero mura kog nainitan ato nga time. Almost everyone ky najud bad side comments except for one and na touch ko sa iya giingon ato nga time though kahilakon na kaayo ko. hehe... basta mao lang na siya. it's not that easy to be against the flow, to stand firm on what you believe in, to be different from others, to be criticized by "all", etc samot na fragile kaayo kog heart. aw, OT na kaayo, haha

it's not really easy to be different since people who will misjudge you will look at you differently.

[slabdans]

@kageron
murag parehas raman tag POV bro wa tay lalis ana

[newbie.86]

Pagans are known to celebrate the feast of a different god everyday. So, in 365 days, there would always be a feast for a certain god EVERYDAY, knowing they have thousands and thousands of deities to choose from.

For Protestants therefore, it does not matter to them what date I actually celebrate Christmas, they can always associate it to another god anyway and slander the celebration for Christ.

If I celebrate Christmas on May 20,they will see it again as a cult of god Z,who in ancient times a feast was celebrated in his honor in the same date.

Protestants actually think like this:

If I honor/celebrate a feast of Jesus on March1, and that date falls on the feast of pagan god X in ancient times, protestants would be telling me that it is actually not Jesus I am honoring on that date, but I am secretly honoring god X. That this mean then that it is invalid to honor Jesus every March 1, lest I will be secretly honoring pagan god X?


Take note of the following dates:

Feast of the Nativity of the Lord == started in 200 AD in Egypt
Feast of the Sol Invicti == made into an official cult in Rome in 275 AD

Protestants are actually IMPLYING that Catholics are actually worshipping Mithra, not Jesus on Christmas day. Akong challenge ninyo: asa mo kadungog nga ang pari ni ingon nga c Mithra diay among giampuan inig Pasko?

[newbie.86]

@defender_1611

xmass gi base sa mga katoliko gkan sa mga pangano maong dili gyud dec25 ang xmass
ang 13 month ug Bunos gi base na sa gobyerno (DOLE) gikan sa mga katoliko
ang mga kompanya ni sunod sa lagda sa gobyerno nga ihatag ang 13month, bonus

karon:

kung tinood nga hugot ka nag tuo nga sayop ang gibuhat sa tawo or katoliko tungod sa sayop nga pagtoo anang pasko
sa akong tan-aw murag mas sayop ka kung modawat ka ug 13month ug bonos sa imong kompanya kay kung imong basihan ang kanang kompanyaha mga pagano na sila, ang pagdawat ana sama lang sa pagdawat sa tinoohan pagano

kung modawat gani ka mao ni ang equation
ikaw = kompanya = dole = katoliko = xmass = PAGANO

ing ani na oh! pagano→→katoliko→→dole→→kompanya→→ikaw


mao nay akong anlisar bro way labot kontrata ana...

If I honor/celebrate a feast of Jesus on another date, (let's say August 1) and that date actually falls on the feast of god X in ancient times, would it paganize the celebration of honoring Jesus?

Would it be invalid to honor Jesus on the same date, lest I will be accused of secretly honoring pagan god X?

[newbie.86]

@Bible-only protestants: unsa mang buwana diay? ang akong gipangayong tubag dili ang mga extra-Biblical and fallible theories gikan sa mga scholars. Akong gipangayo ang verbatim nga tubag gikan sa Bibliya, kay Bible-based only man kaha mo. Payts ra?

[Xian120]

Mura'g lahi ni sya nga klase nga Star bro! Dili ni sya common, this is what we called the Shekinah Glory

...as explained from Christiananswers.net Kani lang atong kuhaan ug basi nga verse....Matthew 2:

....and behold, the star which they had seen in the East went before them, till it came and stood over where the young Child was.

Two details in Matthew are of special interest:

First, the text implies that only the Magi saw the star. However comets, conjunctions, and exploding stars would be visible to everyone on earth.


Second, the star went before the Magi and led them directly from Jerusalem to Bethlehem. This is a distance of about six miles, in a direction from north to south. However, every natural object in the sky moves from east to west due to the earth's rotation. It also is difficult to imagine how a natural light could lead the way to a particular house.


The conclusion is that the Star of Bethlehem cannot be naturally explained by science! It was a temporary and supernatural light.

After all, the first Christmas was a time of miracles.

God has often used special, heavenly lights to guide his people, such as the glory that filled the tabernacle (Exodus 40:34-38) and the temple (1 Kings 8:10) and that shone upon the apostle Paul (Acts 9:3). Such visible signs of God's presence are known as the Shekinah Glory, or dwelling place of God. This special light is a visible manifestation of divine majesty.

The great mystery of the first Christmas is not the origin of its special star. It is the question of why the Magi were chosen to follow the light to the Messiah and why we are given the same invitation today.

What was the Star of Bethlehem?

The star(Jupiter) actually travelled in the opposite direction due to it's retrograde motion because earth rotates in the sun faster than Jupiter because it is nearer to the sun, murag sakyanan ba ni overtake, though ang imong kontra nga sakyanan is moving to the same direction if you go much faster makita nimo nga murag ni atras ang kontra nimo nga sakyanan kay mas paspas man ka..

and the time is actually more probable because king Herod was still alive when Jesus was born, and according to scholars King Herod died around 4 BC -2 BC..