What probable month is the birth of JESUS?

[noy]

sakto jud ka bro!
importante diha kabalo ta kinsa ang figure we are referring to celebrate! Kung lain nga deity, lahi nanang istoryaha.

you nailed it bai! kana kung si mithra atong gicelebrate...murag lahi na na..Lol

[defender_1611]

@Breakeven: bro pwede nako e post diri akong article regarding ani na topic?

ayaw nalang di ay bro hatag nalang ko sa akong view.

[defender_1611]

No one prior to 335 AD celebrated the birthday of Jesus. The word "Christmas" (Christ + Mass) was first used in 1038 AD. Before 335 AD, the pagan cult of Mithra, the Iranian "god of light," had long celebrated December 25 as Mithra’s birthday. December 21, being the winter solace, marked the beginning of days with increasing amount of light, hence December 25 celebrated Mithra’s triumph over darkness. Because the pagan festival that celebrated Mithra’s birthday was so popular, the Roman Catholic Church adopted the day, but changed the meaning from the birthday of Mithra, the "god of light," to Christ’s birthday, God the son, "light of the world." The old meaning of December 25 was connected with Mithra’s triumph over physical darkness. The new meaning celebrated Jesus' triumph over spiritual darkness. Eventually Christmas became dominant, the Mithra cult went extinct and today this origin is not widely known among Roman Catholics. None of the apostles or the early church celebrated the birthday of Jesus.

[noy]

hi bai defender,
with this phrase, "Eventually Christmas became dominant, the Mithra cult went extinct and today this origin is not widely known among Roman Catholics. None of the apostles or the early church celebrated the birthday of Jesus. "
are we initiating a debate about this? obviously i am Catholic

[defender_1611]

hi bai defender,
with this phrase, "Eventually Christmas became dominant, the Mithra cult went extinct and today this origin is not widely known among Roman Catholics. None of the apostles or the early church celebrated the birthday of Jesus. "
are we initiating a debate about this? obviously i am Catholic

wala ko makig debate diri bay...just im just sharing lang my insights. Kay base sa akong observation and understanding ang RCC man gud ang nag pa siugda aning gitawag ug Christmas I mean ni adopt di ay.

[defender_1611]

@noy: dili lang ta mag debate bay discuss lang ta....I mean healthy discussion bah para pod naa maka sabot ug naay makuha na mga lessons ang mga nag basa.

[Breakeven]

Mao diay tingali ni bro nga once we entered the "ber" months, makaingon jud tinuod ta nga the spirit of Christmas is in the air kay ang birthday ni Jesus maybe natumong aning mga buwana...hehhee!

[defender_1611]

Mao diay tingali ni bro nga once we entered the "ber" months, makaingon jud tinuod ta nga the spirit of Christmas is in the air kay ang birthday ni Jesus maybe natumong aning mga buwana...hehhee!

ako bro kung inig tungtong na sa "ber"months aw ordinaryo ra gihapon na adlaw nako.

[noy]

wala ko makig debate diri bay...just im just sharing lang my insights. Kay base sa akong observation and understanding ang RCC man gud ang nag pa siugda aning gitawag ug Christmas I mean ni adopt di ay.

i understand your point bai, the thing is, sa imung POV(which i respect kay POV gud) sorry bai ha pero maholuog ug ni atak man ka sa Katoliko nga sama ra pud nimu Christiano.
from the phrase ni adopt..so you are implying that catholics adopted pagan practices
through Christmas.

naa ko mga questions bai..
1.we know that the bible does not really teach we should celebrate Jesus' birthday
but did the bible say we shouldn't?

2.though there are obvious references that Christmas may have been adopted from pagan practice.
are we sure that Christmas is REALLY taken from a PAGAN practice?

3.granted that it was, what happened to the pagans at that time?were the results negative?

4.is it a form of compromise? or reaching out?

5.we both know that ROME was once a pagan worshipper.
is rome still pagan today?

6.is there a possibility that Jesus birthday really falls in the month of december?

7. Does it really matter?

8. what does Christmas bring? does it bring hatred? anger? selfishness...
in fact when we hear the word Christmas it almost means Loving and giving.
well that statement is clearly relative, but at least that's how i see Christmas.


i think we ought to thank early Christians for being able to find a way to relate the gospel with pagan worshippers..
(convincing that it is NOT mithra who should be worshipped but Jesus besides the messiah was even described in the book of Malachi as the Sun of Righteousness).
otherwise wala nay Christian nga naka abut sa atong panahon karun kay nahurot na guro ug pakaon sa mga Lion sa ilang panahon.

unsay pasabut kaha ni Paul ani bai?

To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.
---1 Corinthians 9:20-23

[noy]

ako bro kung inig tungtong na sa "ber"months aw ordinaryo ra gihapon na adlaw nako.

ang december bai, kay dili jud ordinaryo, kay naa diha kasagarang bonus...hehehehe...
maski muslim malipay ug december na!