bro kahidom ka sa story nilang duha ni satan? kato gani gi- ingnan si Jesus ni satan "ug tinoo-od nga anak ka sa diyos himo-ang pan kining bato. unsa iya tubag bro?y d man jd na niya masumpo si satan
ask lang ko bro same question noh?
awts nawagwagtang man imo quote bro![]()
Last edited by slabdans; 11-27-2012 at 09:42 PM.
kang psychologic na nga pangutana ako giquote unta pero wa nalang.. hehehe
@jovs
bro, tagsa2on lang nato ha kay gamay ra jud ako freetime.....extract rasad nko sa net...but hope makasabot sad ta unsay background sa mga writers sa gospel like Matthew (tax collector)...etc. Dili sila scholar or brilliant writers but the message nga ilang gusto ipaabot sa atua mao atong kuhaan ug importance.
Was Heli listed as Joseph's father in Luke 3 verse 23 because Jacob did not live up to godly standards when Jacob was listed as the father of Joseph and the husband of Mary in Matthew 1 verse sixteenWho is the father of Joseph?
MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.
Best answer:
Due to Levirate laws, a close kin would marry the widowed wife. Being that Heli died and Yaakov, or Jacob, took the place as husband and impregnated the wife, giving birth to Yosef, or Joseph.
"Well why is the rest of the geneology different!?" you may ask. Good question, may I add! I was very concerned if this interfered with messianic prophecy in the Nevi'Im. I easily traced the two records of lineage back to find the relationship and the two accounts, one in Luke, another in Matthew, and they both, as prophecy foretold, were descendants of King Dawid, or David.
I was greatly relieved as it all made sense now. Dawid begat four sons in Jerusalem. Two of which were Nathan, and Solomon. These two men are the last of the differences of the accounts. So, either way, prophecy is fulfilled. The only difference is that one accounted the legal record, while the other accounted the biological record. So, prophecy is fulfilled and Yeshua, or Jesus, is from the lineage of Dawid. Simple indeed!
@jovs
Asa may nagconflict ani sa imong paminaw?Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it:
MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
Consider bro lahi2 na ang author. Ang common message nila is the empty tomb.....pasabot lang ana, those are real events nga nahitabo. Bisan ikaw tingali kung mo attend ug usa ka occasion like wedding, kuyog imong asawa then after that ipa-describe ninyong duha ang details sa event....dili jud mo magkaparehas ug statement, description, characters nga i mention....but what you will have nga common is the most important part of the event which is kinsa ang bride ug groom, diba? makaingon lang tag nag conflict kung sa account ni Matthew nagsulti nga napa ang patayng lawas sa ginoo while sa kang John empty tomb na!
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@jovs
Depende ra gihapon sa imong pag interpret ani bro....Atong sabton pag-ayo that Jesus had a mission during his earthly life....but his divinity wala mawala. But he humbled himself to fulfill the will of the Father. In the Godhead bro, walay heirarchy its because they are united as One. The Father do not exist without the Son.Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.
JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
If Jesus was God, why did He say "The Father is greater than I" in John 14:28?
@jovs
Para nako bro, naa rana nato kung unsa atong pagsabot of the so-called inconsistencies sa bible. Kung imong gamiton ang imong modern knowledge and apply sa ancient writings of course dili makapasar sa imoha. But consider kung unsay importante.....dili ang perfection sa grammar or arrangement sa verses kundi unsa ang message nga gusto ipaabot sa atua. Kita maoy mo adjust sa ilang panahon kay dili to sila mga educated....pero ang ilang writings grabe ug impact sa atua, that's why it;s considered to be inspired by God.Which first--beasts or man?
GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Dili man sad maka impierno sa taw whether he'll chose animals came first then man or vice versa..
More detailed explaination about this.....
Apologetics Press - Did God Create Animals or Man First?
subscribe rako mga bro ha..ky malingaw rako ug basa sa inyo debate....
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