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  1. #2581

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?


    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    are you sure that it should be interpreted that way? interpreting the biblical accounts literally esp the creation part is just one of the many interpretations.
    it just debunked the young earth creation interpretation.there are several others more...

    so i will ask you again,are you 100% sure that the bible is wrong?
    kani oh baka wa pa mo nakabasa ani

    The Bible Is Fiction: A Collection Of Evidence | danielmiessler.com

  2. #2582

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    sa akong part brother - wala ko mo against sa science, its just that naay kay mga question nga wala pa ma tubag sa bible believers and also science can't explain what is inside the bible..

    now, sa imong g ingon nga dili me mo tuo ug science, then cge me ug computer, dili nalng mo inum ug tambal kay mag pray lang...

    do you think that science can prove, asa nag gikan ang atong brain?..i mean g unsa sya pag buhat...ayaw kog ingna gkan nasad ta ani sa dinosaur?...

    yes wala g sulti sa bible g unsa pag buhat,,or g unsa pag dok2x ni noah ang ark para ma lig-on...if their is no GOD that we believe in, naay kahay Science?...all in all akong point...bisan pa ug mag binasahay ta, mag base ka sa science nimo with hard evidence..then kami mag base sa bible...ang akong panguta,,,ang science ba naka prove g unsa pag buhat sa earth? nga lingin mana sya in detail nga ang tubig dili matag ang mga tawo dili ma tagak..oh yeah..gravity dba..science..pero diin mana naga gikan ang gravity...no one else no...except GOD ra....LOL..mo balik ra ghapon ko nimo ug ask...

    asa nag gkan, ang pinaka ka unang na buhi nga Dinosour? if we believe sila ang na una diri sa earth...

  3. #2583

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by risklight View Post
    bro ang kini nga link nahimo lang sa tuig 1999 tan-awa sa ubos sa website, sa bible bro pila na katoig? nakibaw ka? asa man ka mo tu-o ani bro? kung maghimo q ron website nga against bible mo ingon ko si Jesus mao mismo ang demonyo moto-o sad d i ka? copy paste dayon a sa link? tan-awa lng gud ng header sa iya website bro information security consultant murag nindot pa man siguro kag trabaho ani
    Last edited by slabdans; 11-27-2012 at 09:00 PM.

  4. #2584

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    asa man ang complete evidence sa science bro? naa moy evidence sa creation pero kana lang pag relocate ni moses sa mga tawo gikan sa egyp to jerusalem wala mo? hehehe

    Si Socrates (Griyego: Σωκράτης sirka 469 BK–399 BK) kita ka bro? naay date ni socratis pero ang old testaments nga nasulat sa panahon ni moses wala magbutang ug date science?

    likewise bro kung mag sige kag pangutana base on science regarding bible, naa say magsige ug pangutana base on bible regarding science
    better read this bro about your so called moses

    The existence of Moses as well as the veracity of the Exodus story is disputed amongst archaeologists and Egyptologists, with experts in the field of biblical criticism citing logical inconsistencies, new archaeological evidence, historical evidence, and related origin myths in Canaanite

    source: Moses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Quote Originally Posted by slabdans View Post
    bro ang kini nga link nahimo lang sa tuig 1999 tan-awa sa ubos sa website, sa bible bro pila na katoig? nakibaw ka? asa man ka mo tu-o ani bro? kung maghimo q ron website nga against bible mo ingon ko si Jesus mao mismo ang demonyo moto-o sad d i ka? copy paste dayon a sa link? tan-awa lng gud ng header sa iya website bro information security consultant murag nindot pa man siguro kag trabaho ani
    bro basaha and iresearch when ang myths listed this were all myths and people believed them way before the bible was written

    Jesus’s Story Is An Obvious Rehashing Of Numerous Previous Characters

    Perhaps even more compelling is the story of Christ himself. As it turns out it’s not even remotely original. It is instead nothing more than a collection of bits and pieces from dozens of other stories that came long before. Here are some examples.

    Asklepios healed the sick, raised the dead, and was known as the savior and redeemer.
    Hercules was born of a divine father and mortal mother and was known as the savior of the world. Prophets foretold his birth and claimed he would be a king, which started a search by a leader who wanted to kill him. He walked on water and told his mother, “Don’t cry, I’m going to heaven.” when he died. As he passed he said, “It is finished.“
    Dionysus was literally the “Son of God”, was born of a virgin mother, and was commonly depicted riding a donkey. He healed the sick and turned water to wine. He was killed but was resurrected and became immortal. His greatest accomplishment was his own death, which delivers humanity itself.
    Osiris did the same things. He was born of a virgin, was considered the first true king of the people, and when he died he rose from the grave and went to heaven.
    Osiris’s son, Horus, was known as the “light of the world”, “The good shepherd”, and “the lamb”. He was also referred to as, “The way, the truth, and the life.” His symbol was a cross.

    karun how sure are you that the Bible is God's word how can you prove that its all real?

  5. #2585

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    @ risklight

    collection of bits and pieces sila na mismo nag sulti bro noh? wa ka kapangutana bro basin naa pa silay wa na kolekta? mao na incomplete ang compilation sa bible. sama sa mga pangihitabo in the time of moses huna huna-a gud bro ang pag himo sa kalibutan nadisobrehan nila asta ang mga dinosour na xplain nila nga maoy una sa kalibutan, pero ang pinaka duol nga panahon kung asa ang time ni moses wala sila. karon bro complete evidence ang science bro?
    Last edited by slabdans; 11-27-2012 at 09:26 PM.

  6. #2586

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by Breakeven View Post
    I agree anang intellectually evolved nimo bro, but not physically kay wala may napuno sa atong physical characteristics since pag create kang Adam. Accumulation of knowledge bro is different from conscience seared. Ang tawag ana bro, dili intellectually evolved, instead dili nata sensitive sa sala.

    Atong knowledge on the things around us mao ray nag accumulate...kani lang atong bantayan nga mahitabo sa atua as warned already in the bible.....

    Sin consciousness is Conscience Seared with a hot iron « the gospel of grace

    Question: "What does it mean to have a seared conscience?"

    Answer:
    The seared conscience is referred to in 1 Timothy 4:2 where Paul talks about those whose consciences—their moral consciousness—have been literally “cauterized” or rendered insensitive in the same way the hide of an animal scarred with a branding iron becomes numb to further pain. For human beings, having one’s conscience seared is a result of continual, unrepentant sinning. Eventually, sin dulls the sense of moral right or wrong, and the unrepentant sinner becomes numb to the warnings of the conscience that God has
    placed within each of us to guide us
    (Romans 2:15).
    I think of the opposite, our society now have grown intellectually moral.. compared sa mga nangagi nga mga panahon, this era has been the most peaceful yet.. though naa ghapon mga wars ginagmay but most of them have something to do with conflict of beliefs..

    Para nimo nagka walay consciensya ang mga tawo, para nako as intellect grow so does conscience.. if you look at the big picture mas ni improve ang atong panahon kompara sauna..

  7. #2587

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by risklight View Post
    sus tawn..sa kadaghan nga nagclaim that the bible is a hoax..di nata ma surprize ana...
    again, you did not even answer my questions...

    the young earth creation interpretation may have been debunked already..
    BUT we both know that it is NOT the only interpretation you're up against.
    'cause obviously we both know that the universe is approx 13billion years and the earth is approx 4.5 billion years old
    and that evidences of evolution are everywhere..
    now the question is, does that really disprove the bible?
    YES, if we are to take the BIBLE word for word and LITERALLY.
    now another question, are we suppose to take the bible literally?

    now if you are making an aboslute statement about the bible being hoax
    then what can you say about these people?

    List of converts to Christianity from atheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    aetheist who converted to Christianity(take a close Look what kind of lives they lead, if they are the type of people who would not examine things before they believe)

    how about these people

    List of Christian thinkers in science - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    this is a LIST of all Christian Scientists.(recorded lang ni ha, wa pay labut ang mga WAIL)

    so since you are very absolute about your statement that the bible is hoax.
    and even calling us people who know-it-all, hypocrites kay mutoo ug science?(nganu anti -christ diay nanag science?Lol)

    so mas sweto pa ka anang mga TAO nga nakalista diha? 'cause they seem to believe in a mystical book filled with
    magical creatures and bed time stories AKA the Bible.

    and for your sake, maypag imu ni icheck ning mga LINK, to widen your horizon about biblical creation and interpretation.
    nga unta you would know that apart from young earth creation interpretation...naa pay uban nga angay nimu
    idebunk before saying that the BIBLE is a HOAX.

    If God is Omnipotent (All Powerful) Why Did He Need to Take Six Days to Create the Universe?

    and

    Human Evolution: science & theology, genetics & Genesis, Adam & Eve


    and also tell these people that they have died in vain.

    List of Christian martyrs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

  8. #2588

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    so naa cguro tay "gene" sa angel noh kay tungod sa genesis 6?

    6 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose.

  9. #2589

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    I think of the opposite, our society now have grown intellectually moral.. compared sa mga nangagi nga mga panahon, this era has been the most peaceful yet.. though naa ghapon mga wars ginagmay but most of them have something to do with conflict of beliefs..

    Para nimo nagka walay consciensya ang mga tawo, para nako as intellect grow so does conscience.. if you look at the big picture mas ni improve ang atong panahon kompara sauna..
    peaceful tungod lng sad gihapon na niya nga nag igon "ang kalinaw ibilin ko kaninyo" kung wa ang iyang guide nato kalibutan pinaagi sa tabang sa mga apostol mo work kaha na? madisobre kaha ang mga nadisobrehan sa tawo?

  10. #2590

    Default Re: Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

    So unsa naman na proved naba nimo brother Risklight or wala pa...wala pa gani ka maka answer sa question ni noy..then sa ako-a sad wala pa sad...

    meaning, dili gyd ta mag end up ani..puro rata lalis..paste ta ug links..then read,,research..then paste nasad....hehehehehe

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