Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

[Breakeven]

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There are things that we can't explain, therefore God did it,. Man have intellectually evolved and his mind can no longer hold this conviction anymore..

I agree anang intellectually evolved nimo bro, but not physically kay wala may napuno sa atong physical characteristics since pag create kang Adam. Accumulation of knowledge bro is different from conscience seared. Ang tawag ana bro, dili intellectually evolved, instead dili nata sensitive sa sala.

Atong knowledge on the things around us mao ray nag accumulate...kani lang atong bantayan nga mahitabo sa atua as warned already in the bible.....

Sin consciousness is Conscience Seared with a hot iron « the gospel of grace

Question: "What does it mean to have a seared conscience?"

Answer: The seared conscience is referred to in 1 Timothy 4:2 where Paul talks about those whose consciences—their moral consciousness—have been literally “cauterized” or rendered insensitive in the same way the hide of an animal scarred with a branding iron becomes numb to further pain. For human beings, having one’s conscience seared is a result of continual, unrepentant sinning. Eventually, sin dulls the sense of moral right or wrong, and the unrepentant sinner becomes numb to the warnings of the conscience that God has
placed within each of us to guide us (Romans 2:15).

[Breakeven]

One good example bro, fornication....sa unang panahon, even touching a woman kung makit-an mo, ipakasal dayon. But now, pabuntisan ang babaye baliwala nalang sa part sa laki tungod sa iyang selfishness....but if iyang igsuon, kaliwat ang nabuhatan sa ingon, dili makadawat.

[libido]

sa akong opinyon - sa mga nadungog na nako sa bata pako sa mga Priest, ug sa ni dako nako naka apil ko ug group sa christian fellowship...

dba g anak man ta sa atong mother, which is biological parents nato...then sa bible ni ingon nga GOD made a Man and Woman, imposible rasad kaau ug pagkahuman naka sala si Adan, sya rasad ang ni mabdos...dba sila man ang pinaka una nga tawo if mag base ta sa bible.

so kung wala si Eve, wala tay mother karon...point is gikan gyd ta ni eve...yeah Bible akong g tuhoan...

sa akng pag sabot rana walay google ug walay wiki...hehehehehe

[noy]

True that evolution wont give the answer of its origin, but it does disprove what is written in the book of Genesis..

yes bai, it would disprove Genesis writings if we were to take the Genesis creation literally.
therefore it would just disprove perhaps one of the many interpretations about Genesis creation..
therefore we really cannot rule out the possibility that Genesis accounts might still be accurate.

here's a link that might give further insights..
Human Evolution: science & theology, genetics & Genesis, Adam & Eve

though these are merely thoeries based on science and Logic..
but they are still possible..after all, no matter how sure we are about whatever beliefs we have..
beliefs are still beliefs..therefore, all we can do is speculate...
'cause after all, if God is true and the bible indeed contains His word
then nothing is impossible for God...
perhaps what St. augustine wrote about miracle is true...
that miracles are not contrary to nature, but contrary to what we know about nature...
besides it wouldn't really prove that there is no divine intervention just because we are able to
explain the process. would it?
out of the million sperm cells, one survived and united with 1 egg cell..
then another Life begins....i believe it is already a miracle.

[Breakeven]

@libido, sakar jud ni imong name ani bro

that's right! lisud man gud tuohan ang Evolution ni Darwin nga gikan daw ta sa simplier life forms nya nahimong complex being. Imagine, kung ni evolve una ang lalaki, unsa kaha iyang gibuhat sa iyang "male organ" if it took million years sad ang evolution sa "female organ". Need man jud kaha para mo survive ang genes. Perteng antus tingali sa first evolved man nga nanay kinatawo ug hinuwatay sa iyang sakoban....lol!

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Giunsa man bro? share nalang diri para naa sad ta ideas to consider....thanks bro.

Hehehe. mura gihapon ky dili man na tagaan ug importansya plus di pa gyud na motoo. Ang important sa tao man gud is his physical existence. So ways to know God, dili na na importante para sa tao. And usa pud depende man pud na gud sa karma sa tao, bisag i hungit pa na, di gyud masabtan, instead himoon lng hinoon nga kataw-anan. hehehe. at least naa lng idea unsaon, mao ra gyud na akong i share. then it depends na sa individual unsaon niya kung interesado gyud siya makabalo ni God.

Before we can know God, we must know ourselves first.

[Breakeven]

Sa bible pa bro...

"So then Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God...." mao nang naay mga missionaries, preachers, etc....proclaiming the good news of the gospel....

so we need also to know kung unsa para nimo ang truth giunsa pag create sa ginoo based sa imong belief!

[slabdans]

@libido, sakar jud ni imong name ani bro

that's right! lisud man gud tuohan ang Evolution ni Darwin nga gikan daw ta sa simplier life forms nya nahimong complex being. Imagine, kung ni evolve una ang lalaki, unsa kaha iyang gibuhat sa iyang "male organ" if it took million years sad ang evolution sa "female organ". Need man jud kaha para mo survive ang genes. Perteng antus tingali sa first evolved man nga nanay kinatawo ug hinuwatay sa iyang sakoban....lol!

bag-o ni bro dah sakuban di ai tawag ana hahaha

[risklight]

bag-o rman na sya nadiskobre bro after bible man, so una gyud ang bible after science unya free man mi sa relihiyon wa man mi pungi nga mogamit ana ^_^

so sa panahon nila Aristotle ug early greek scientist dili diay na considered as discoveries sa science? mas una pa ni sa bible

naa koy question tubagi ni ninyo mga bible believers ha?

Bibles says the earth is around 6000 yrs old na but Geologist and science research already proved that the earth is much older than 6000 yrs. now it clearly means sayup ang bible diba? yes/no ra ang answer ana mga bro

@libido, sakar jud ni imong name ani bro


that's right! lisud man gud tuohan ang Evolution ni Darwin nga gikan daw ta sa simplier life forms nya nahimong complex being. Imagine, kung ni evolve una ang lalaki, unsa kaha iyang gibuhat sa iyang "male organ" if it took million years sad ang evolution sa "female organ". Need man jud kaha para mo survive ang genes. Perteng antus tingali sa first evolved man nga nanay kinatawo ug hinuwatay sa iyang sakoban....lol!

wtf lisud tuohan ang theory ni darwin? theres physical evidence like fossil and research based on Galapagos island backing up this.

how do you explain the dinosaur fossils/bones naa ba sa bible ang dinosaur diba wala man? karun asa ni gikan ang dinosaurs if wala ni sa bible?

[libido]

@risklight - ibutang nato sad nga cge, sakto ang imong science,,ako mo ask nimo,,,kana ba imong g ingon nga dinosour, mangak diay na sila ug tawo?...ibutang nato sad nga nanganak sila ug tawo...dba sa science g compare ta as parehas ug monkey...

so ang g ingon sa bible nga in 7 days god made the world...and sa akong na remember..g una nya ang natures..then wala sya ma kontento..g buhat nya ang animals...then ni sunod ang man and woman....

sa science yes...existing ang dinosaur pero diri ta mag question karon, if na una ug buhat ang natures, then ni sunod and animals...unsa diay meaning ana?...