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  1. #2291

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bibisux View Post
    im not much of a believer.. religion has its way of making me pissed through their godly acts that apparently, knows no boundaries! so to speak! but on the positive side.. somehow i'm left with an average belief that "GOD" or so called the creator does exist.

    so my point is.. calma lang ta mga brad, naa man jud tay mga kaugalingong pag to.o. di lang unta mag cge og lalis bahin ana, mura ta mga hubog ana naa jud away2 bahin gino.o.. hehe
    Wa may naghagis guro diri. Nya gibuhat sad ning forum specifically para mag post kag question or explanation sa imung pagtuo... so ok ra.

  2. #2292

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    Quote Originally Posted by psychologic View Post
    murag playing safe bah nya mu ingun dayun, nangutana rko para makablo -- aw murag raman d i.. la pay sure.. hehe..
    apilan ug word nga "Murag" para di kaayu Judgmental bah

  3. #2293

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    cge gud.. if inyo tumong kay lingaw2 lang aron palipas oras ok lang.. pero sineryoso? pointless kaau hihi

  4. #2294

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Kinsa man diay mu explain sa pagtuo sa Atheist? Theist?

    Absolute morality sa theist nagpasabot nga dunay absolute being nga naghatag ug absolute nga balaod nga maoy sundon sa nagtuo nga way pag question. Like 10 commandments, sa mga Theist gikan nas Dios busa sundon sa way pagpangutana kay Dios may naghatag. Maoy nay meaning sa Absolute Morality sa Theist. You cannot say that for Atheist.


    So sa Atheism, para nimu asa man kuhaa ang Basis for Good and Bad nimu?
    since you like to assume that this theistic morality is absolute, unsa mana imong giingon nga absolute morality? enlighten us daw..

    10 commandments is absolute?.. nganu man manugo ang Ginoo usahay ug papatay?, i know He have good reasons, but that would surely discredit one of his commandments now would it?.

    it's in our nature to do something that we consider as good or bad, it's regulation is dictated by our genes for it to survive...

  5. #2295

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    apilan ug word nga "Murag" para di kaayu Judgmental bah
    aw kana maoy playing safe.. heheh

  6. #2296

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xian120 View Post
    since you like to assume that this theistic morality is absolute, unsa mana imong giingon nga absolute morality? enlighten us daw..

    10 commandments is absolute?.. nganu man manugo ang Ginoo usahay ug papatay?, i know He have good reasons, but that would surely discredit one of his commandments now would it?.

    it's in our nature to do something that we consider as good or bad, it's regulation is dictated by our genes for it to survive...
    Murag gi explain nah nko sa akong post unsay morality sa Theist.

    So para nimu ang gi distate sa Genes imung basis unsay maayu unsay dili?

  7. #2297

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bibisux View Post
    cge gud.. if inyo tumong kay lingaw2 lang aron palipas oras ok lang.. pero sineryoso? pointless kaau hihi
    Lingaw lingaw nsad, wa man tawn nag ingun diri lingaw lingaw oi, Simple ra kaayu tawn ni, post ug questions nya defend sa imung pagtuo if naay mu question. if unsay rason sa nag post, ilaha nah na ug wa na tay labot.

    Maypa pangutan-on taka, nganu avarage ra man imung pagtuo nga naay Ginoo?

  8. #2298

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    it is true,. no GOD we are not here!


    Quote Originally Posted by treize View Post
    1. If there is no God, “the big questions” remain unanswered, so how do we answer the following questions: Why is there something rather than nothing? This question was asked by Aristotle and Leibniz alike – albeit with differing answers. But it is an historic concern. Why is there conscious, intelligent life on this planet, and is there any meaning to this life? If there is meaning, what kind of meaning and how is it found? Does human history lead anywhere, or is it all in vain since death is merely the end? How do you come to understand good and evil, right and wrong without a transcendent signifier? If these concepts are merely social constructions, or human opinions, whose opinion does one trust in determining what is good or bad, right or wrong? If you are content within atheism, what circumstances would serve to make you open to other answers?

    2. If we reject the existence of God, we are left with a crisis of meaning, so why don’t we see more atheists like Jean Paul Sartre, or Friedrich Nietzsche, or Michel Foucault? These three philosophers, who also embraced atheism, recognized that in the absence of God, there was no transcendent meaning beyond one’s own self-interests, pleasures, or tastes. The crisis of atheistic meaninglessness is depicted in Sartre’s book Nausea. Without God, there is a crisis of meaning, and these three thinkers, among others, show us a world of just stuff, thrown out into space and time, going nowhere, meaning nothing.

    3. When people have embraced atheism, the historical results can be horrific, as in the regimes of Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot who saw religion as the problem and worked to eradicate it? In other words, what set of actions are consistent with particular belief commitments? It could be argued, that these behaviors – of the regimes in question - are more consistent with the implications of atheism. Though, I'm thankful that many of the atheists I know do not live the implications of these beliefs out for themselves like others did! It could be argued that the socio-political ideologies could very well be the outworking of a particular set of beliefs – beliefs that posited the ideal state as an atheistic one.

    4. If there is no God, the problems of evil and suffering are in no way solved, so where is the hope of redemption, or meaning for those who suffer? Suffering is just as tragic, if not more so, without God because there is no hope of ultimate justice, or of the suffering being rendered meaningful or transcendent, redemptive or redeemable. It might be true that there is no God to blame now, but neither is there a God to reach out to for strength, transcendent meaning, or comfort. Why would we seek the alleviation of suffering without objective morality grounded in a God of justice?

    5. If there is no God, we lose the very standard by which we critique religions and religious people, so whose opinion matters most? Whose voice will be heard? Whose tastes or preferences will be honored? In the long run, human tastes and opinions have no more weight than we give them, and who are we to give them meaning anyway? Who is to say that lying, or cheating or adultery or child molestation are wrong –really wrong? Where do those standards come from? Sure, our societies might make these things “illegal” and impose penalties or consequences for things that are not socially acceptable, but human cultures have at various times legally or socially disapproved of everything from believing in God to believing the world revolves around the sun; from slavery, to interracial marriage, from polygamy to monogamy. Human taste, opinion law and culture are hardly dependable arbiters of Truth.

    6. If there is no God, we don’t make sense, so how do we explain human longings and desire for the transcendent? How do we even explain human questions for meaning and purpose, or inner thoughts like, why do I feel unfulfilled or empty? Why do we hunger for the spiritual, and how do we explain these longings if nothing can exist beyond the material world?


    I did not make this questions, I am just interested to hear your opinions and reasons. Hope you will answer it religiously.. Thank you.

    And please NO AD HOMINEM..

    -peace-

  9. #2299

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Murag gi explain nah nko sa akong post unsay morality sa Theist.

    So para nimu ang gi distate sa Genes imung basis unsay maayu unsay dili?
    no, i dont believe in the Genesis story in the bible.. im just saying it kay niana man ka nga Absolute Morality ang 10 Commandments,. absolute? really?

  10. #2300

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    wow ha!! explained! believe of what is your beliefs.. ana lang!

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