UFO in the Bible???

[acescream]

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i appreciate giving your thoughts sir @snipereyes05. With regards to 1 Corinthians 8:13, lets take a look at the previous lines to it - 1 Corinthians 8:9-13 "10 For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, with all your knowledge, eating in an idol’s temple, won’t that person be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? 11 So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. 12 When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall." >> hehe actually this translation is quite good since you can understand it easily because of the grammar. 1 Corinthians 8:13 is actually a hyperbole type of figure of speech if i'm not mistaken. The meaning of this verse is about being a good example for your fellow brother/sister, by not eating the food offered to idols which is a no-no. Kay if a fellow brother/sister sees you doing what is a no-no, that fellow brother/sister might be tempted to do the same thing, hence you sinned to your brother/sister also you sinned against Christ. Sa bisaya pa, "if kung sa akong gikaon makapasala sa akong brod/sis, di nalang jud ko mokaog meat, para di sila makasala tungod nako." Ana lang bro.

[noy]

^lol bro, you're the one who needs to read the Bible completely. Before 1 Corinthians 10:31, there is 1 Corinthians 10:23 "“I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive." 1 Corinthians 10:31 means bro that whatever you do, you do it for the glory of God. So you should not do what is restricted because God has set rules to follow, he didn't leave man to easily do what he pleases. Does murder glorify God? NO. Does stealing glorify God? No. Does worshipping idols glorify God? Absolutely NO. Lol bro, you took 1 Corinthians 10:31 word 4 word, which lead to twisting it's meaning. As what i've said bro, GRAMMAR matters. If Bisaya unta na 1 Corinthians 10:31, "kung mokaon ka man o moinom o kung unsa man imo buhaton, buhata ang tanan nga para sa ikahimaya sa Diyos."

apparently you misunderstood my point i did not take it word for word...promise

killings,stealing are of course moral Laws which are of infinite value...
say for example...The Leviticus Laws...like not shaving your facial hair, not having mixed linen for clothing...
are you strictly following those? or di kaha apil to cla sa sacramental laws nga
gi fulfill na ni Jesus...and moral laws kay atoa nang part,

when Jesus said whoever believes in Him...it also follows that we abide bu His laws...
by your POV, kadtong law against shaving our beards and mixing of linens...
were pretty plain and and literal diba? so meaning perti nang taasa sa imung bangas karun?

everytuime makasala ka, do you offer burnt animals as sacrifice to atone your sins?
do you shave your head everytime you sin? do you stone people to death when they commit adultery?
those Laws and many are in the Bible too...so...have you strictly followed them?

if i present someone who committed adultery to you, what will you do?
even Jews do not stone people to death anymore..when you come to think of it...the mosaic Law
was given to the Jews...

[noy]

i appreciate giving your thoughts sir @snipereyes05. With regards to 1 Corinthians 8:13, lets take a look at the previous lines to it - 1 Corinthians 8:9-13 "10 For if someone with a weak conscience sees you, with all your knowledge, eating in an idol’s temple, won’t that person be emboldened to eat what is sacrificed to idols? 11 So this weak brother or sister, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. 12 When you sin against them in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13 Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother or sister to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause them to fall." >> hehe actually this translation is quite good since you can understand it easily because of the grammar. 1 Corinthians 8:13 is actually a hyperbole type of figure of speech if i'm not mistaken. The meaning of this verse is about being a good example for your fellow brother/sister, by not eating the food offered to idols which is a no-no. Kay if a fellow brother/sister sees you doing what is a no-no, that fellow brother/sister might be tempted to do the same thing, hence you sinned to your brother/sister also you sinned against Christ. Sa bisaya pa, "if kung sa akong gikaon makapasala sa akong brod/sis, di nalang jud ko mokaog meat, para di sila makasala tungod nako." Ana lang bro.

share lang ko bai ha...murag same concept na sa inum...
generally as Christian, and inum di jud na maau..di jud na i encourage and as much as possible di pud na
i practice...
sa una, bag.o pa ko kristyano(i can consider myself as someone described by paul whose faith was weak, karun weak gihapun but mas weak to sa una..hahaha)...
There is this person that i look up to..great musician, great worship leader...
talks about why we should avoid drinking and all sorts of vices...
now coming from a very "bisyoso" life before Christianity...i agreed with him 100% no alcoholic drinks till the day i die..hehehe
later on, kay banda2x man pud to cla...kami pud...Christian band...
i saw Him nga nitagay sa ubang banda nga gatapok pud...nagki halo bilo...

sa akong huna2x...compromise to...ug iya gitulon iyang gi istorya...
then i found the explanation in this verse...

1 Corinthians 9:20-22

"To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some."

of course His Spiritual Level was way too far from mine...mao wala ko kasabut sa iyang gibuhat ato nga time...

mao guro nay pasabut nga naay tay mga binuhatan nga basin maka cause sa mga nagsunod nato to fall...
hence it is best done secretly plus under the state of Grace...
and makita na sa fruits pud...kay kadtong maong tao..in result was able to invite those people nga iyang gi jamman ug tagay2x...
was able to bring them to the Love of Christ..now they can freely talk and enjoy each others company without Tagay2x...
under the state of grace is deep and broad, kahibaw ra ta through descernment ug kung at peace ta sa atong gibuhat..but most of all makita sa resulta...kay sa tunga2x sa akong paglakaw kuyog si Lord
kay akong gihimung justification ang inum2x para kuno maka reach out sa uban...ang ending...ako maoy na reach out nila kung sa giingun pa ni paul...this is Solid Food for matured Christians...
kadtong black and white nga teaching...para tos baby Christians..'cause they may serve as foundations of faith..

was that guy compromising? only God knows jud...again we base it sa fruits
first we know that drinking is not at all bad, but its EFFECTS?
now are we suppose to kompyansa?no...that's why these things has to be done when we are in the state of grace...otherwise,tagak
next thing we know...hubog ug maoy na..kalamukat ang agi...and hypocrites na ta...

kung nag inum pa nuon to siya, kay nagproblema..naghubog2x...
aw kana madiscourage jud ko ug basin maka ingun ko nga hypocrite to siya...

and what does paul mean about i myself am not under the law?

"To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law"


para nako, i could be wrong ha...when you are trying to win a muslim
of course, don't eat pork pud..
if you are talking to teens, of course we must be like teenagers pud..
but if we are trying to reach out for people who are really in their lowest...
(addiction,hatred,and other stuff)...our legalistic minds won't help bai...
our nice suit, preacher look type,clean cut with a bible handy won't let them feel we understand them...

and how will you reach out for those whose favorite food is dinuguan and pork?

if you know sonny sandoval of POD...his got tattoos all over his body...
He sings hardcore music...He doesnt even talk about the Law of God all the time
but He does talk about His Love...and is clearly reaching out thousands of people...
people with addicitons..problematic teens....and He its pork too

sorry kaau TS, taas2x nga OT

Peace ta bai ha, this is just for the sake of conversation...
after all, you may be right too...God bless you

now where were we?ah yes, Aliens in the bible...Lol

[defender_1611]

The Bible does not say if there is life on other planets. It simply says that God created the heavens and earth and put man on it. But this silence on the subject does not require that earth is the only place with life on it. But then again, this doesn't mean there is life out there, either.

Let me propose some reasons why I believe there is no life on other planets. Now, I should tell you that these reasons are simply exercises in biblical theology.

The Bible says there is one Trinitarian God. Jesus was God in flesh (John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9; Phil. 2:5-8), second person of the Trinity, and died for our sins (Rom. 5:8; 1 Pet. 2:24). If there were other beings on other planets that have sinned, then they would need a redeemer. God would have to die for them as well.1

Only God can forgive sins. Jesus is God in flesh (John 1:1,14; Col. 2:9), is forever a man (1 Tim. 2:5; Heb. 7:17, 21) and died for the sins of people here on earth (Rom. 5:8). Therefore, I conclude that the only members left in the Trinity to die for the sins of another race would be the Father and the Holy Spirit. But this doesn't seem credible since the focus of the Trinitarian effort in this world has been for the Father to elect a people (Luke 18:7; Rom. 8:33), the Son to redeem them (John 6:39; 17:9,24; Rom. 5:8; 1 Pet. 2:24), and the Holy Spirit to fill, guide, and indwell them (Acts 4:29-31; John 16:13; Rom. 8:9-14). The focus of their effort has been this world and the redemption of mankind, not anywhere else.

Second, if there were life on other planets, would it be possible that they never sinned and don't need a redeemer? I think this question can be answered by the Bible where it says that creation is groaning, waiting for its redemption at the return of Christ (Rom. 8:22). That would mean that all of creation was affected by the fall. When Adam sinned, the ground was cursed and death entered the world. If that is so, then any other beings out there that were made in God's image, would have fallen too since they would be part of creation.2 I don't see how they could escape the effect of the fall. They would be sinners too and need a redeemer. Then they would fall under the first objection above.

Third, there are only two options available to explain our existence: creation and evolution. I have studied the theory of evolution and do not believe it is a viable option to explain how we got here. I do not accept evolution for two reasons: (1) the Bible says God created life on earth; that means it did not evolve, and (2) the problems of spontaneous life formation are so immense that it is impossible. Also, missing links abound, the fossil record is spotty at best, DNA mutation theory is insufficient to account for life-form development, and more....


sensya TS taas kaayo ako explanation. :)

[noy]

salamat bai defender...kay nahibalik tas Topic

[defender_1611]

salamat bai defender...kay nahibalik tas Topic

ok ra bay noy mura kog driver ani tig direct sa sakto nga dalan or topic. hehehe.

[iBerg]

As I could remember these are the Higher Classes of Angels - higher than the Archangels but I forgot how they are labels but good thread.

Bitaw.. sakto pd ka boss!

[cupido]

tan-aw mog Ancient Aliens nga series sa History channel ai..sa katong gnahag kopya ingna ko..lol
I'm not promoting it ha...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

This is the problem when we attempt in EXLPAINING the BIBLE when in fact we are only INTERPRETING it.

OT :

If you ask me about ALIENS ?

Naay daghan sa USA hehehee .

[SioDenz]

@SioDenz please read again my very first comment, CAREFULLY. If wala ka kasabot kay English ra kaayo, let me explain it to you. "mga bro, please don't take all that is written in the Bible, word by word literally." translates as "mga bro, palihug ayaw ileteral og sabot ang tanan nga nakasuwat sa Bibliya." in Cebuano. It means nga dili tanan nakasuwat dapat iliteral og sabot, example bro ha kani o Psalm 22:6 - "But I am a worm and not a man, scorned by men and despised by the people." Si David nagsulti ana, so if imo na iliteral og sabot, motoo ka nga UOD na c David kuyawa Nya, gi-point out ko na sa sunod sentence bro >> "Much of what is written are in the form of symbols." translates "kasagaran sa nakasuwat pina-simbolo ang paagi" in Cebuano. KASAGARAN bro, dili tanan. Using common sense, maka-differentiate ka kung asa ang pina-simbolo or asa ang iliteral jud og sabot. Peace

So kanang Dugo imung pasabot sa imung post literal na? unsay diay guidelines natu para ma differentiate ang literal ug symbolism sa bibliya? kinsa say nag tudlo nimu ana nga guidelines?ikaw ikaw ra?