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  1. #61

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Sakto ka bro nga wa jud diay nimu tiwasa ug basa ang Bibliya.

    isa ka clue ha, unsa nga lugar man gi mention sa verse? kahibalo kag kanus-a na gisugo bro? kahibalo ka unsa nga klase sa mga tawo ang gisultihan ana? nya kahibalo ka unsay gisulti ni Kristo pag anhi niya?

    Nakamata tuod ka bro pero alas 2 pas kadlawun - meaning kuwang pa sa tulog para nko
    huh here you go men -->delivered to the Israelites by Moses on the plains of Moab, shortly before they enter the Promised Land.
    Gisulti ni Kristo pag-anhi niya? Do you mean a specific one? Kay daghan man kaau to. Maybe naa kay ma-share diha so share nalang pud. Sa pagkaon sa dugo, bawal man gihapon na sa panahon ni Kristo(Acts 15:20 -..but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood.)

  2. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by acescream View Post
    huh here you go men -->delivered to the Israelites by Moses on the plains of Moab, shortly before they enter the Promised Land.
    Gisulti ni Kristo pag-anhi niya? Do you mean a specific one? Kay daghan man kaau to. Maybe naa kay ma-share diha so share nalang pud. Sa pagkaon sa dugo, bawal man gihapon na sa panahon ni Kristo(Acts 15:20 -..but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood.)
    Aw mao bah, nya unsaon man nimu ni pag explain imung post:

    Ingun ka ai:
    Quote Originally Posted by acescream View Post
    mga bro, please don't take all that is written in the Bible, word by word literally. Much of what is written are in the form of symbols. SYMBOLISM is very rampant in the contents of the Bible.
    ingun ka dont take the Bible word for word literally. nya Naghisgot kag Symbolism sah, naa pakay pina rampant...nya mu post ka ani:

    Quote Originally Posted by acescream View Post
    Example bai ha kani kay common man kaau ni nimo makita sa mga tawo karon: ang pagkaon og dugo2x. "Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life, and you shall not eat the life with the flesh." -Deuteronomy 12:23.."For the life of every creature is its blood: its blood is its life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off." -Leviticus 17:14.."Only you shall not eat the blood; you shall pour it out on the earth like water." -Deuteronomy 12:16....Usa ra ni sa mga kamatuoran bai nga nakapamata nako, og napay daghan bai.
    Nganu imu gi LITERAL pagsabot ang "BLOOD" or "BLOOD of LIFE" sa bersikolo nga RAMPANT man kaha ang SYMBOLISM sa Bibliya. Naa bay Symbolism nga Literal pagsabot. Ayaw ko ingna nga nagbuot buot raka ana imung Symbolism? or ba kaha EXEMPTED na nga bersikolo.

    Abi man nko nakamata naka bro?
    Last edited by SioDenz; 11-15-2012 at 04:19 PM.

  3. #63

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    @SioDenz please read again my very first comment, CAREFULLY. If wala ka kasabot kay English ra kaayo, let me explain it to you. "mga bro, please don't take all that is written in the Bible, word by word literally." translates as "mga bro, palihug ayaw ileteral og sabot ang tanan nga nakasuwat sa Bibliya." in Cebuano. It means nga dili tanan nakasuwat dapat iliteral og sabot, example bro ha kani o Psalm 22:6 - "But I am a worm and not a man, scorned by men and despised by the people." Si David nagsulti ana, so if imo na iliteral og sabot, motoo ka nga UOD na c David kuyawa Nya, gi-point out ko na sa sunod sentence bro >> "Much of what is written are in the form of symbols." translates "kasagaran sa nakasuwat pina-simbolo ang paagi" in Cebuano. KASAGARAN bro, dili tanan. Using common sense, maka-differentiate ka kung asa ang pina-simbolo or asa ang iliteral jud og sabot. Peace

  4. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Aw mao bah, nya unsaon man nimu ni pag explain imung post:

    Ingun ka ai:


    ingun ka dont take the Bible word for word literally. nya Naghisgot kag Symbolism sah, naa pakay pina rampant...nya mu post ka ani:



    Nganu imu gi LITERAL pagsabot ang "BLOOD" or "BLOOD of LIFE" sa bersikolo nga RAMPANT man kaha ang SYMBOLISM sa Bibliya. Naa bay Symbolism nga Literal pagsabot. Ayaw ko ingna nga nagbuot buot raka ana imung Symbolism? or ba kaha EXEMPTED na nga bersikolo.

    Abi man nko nakamata naka bro?
    Follow up lang ni bro ha, kay GRAMMAR matters. Importante ang grammar kay wrong grammar masayop jud og sabot. Literal ang blood ani nga verse bro Deuteronomy 12:23 "..for the blood is the life" DILI "BLOOD OF LIFE" kay life is abstract lol. Of course bro, blood is the life. Hutda paagas ang dugo bro sa bisan unsa man naay dugo, buhi pa ba. Blood is the one responsible for carrying oxygen and nutrients for your body, so blood is the life DILI blood of life. Pareha ra na clag meaning bro sa Leviticus 17:14 "for the life of every creature is its blood" >> ang kinabuhi sa matag mananap kay ang iyahang dugo.

  5. #65

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    nka.basa sad ko anang naay ufo or something sphere object in the sky na word sa bible bro.. nalimot lng ko.. elementary pako ato panahuna gud.. nakuha ra sad to nko sa cge nkog tan.aw ug Sightlings na tv series.

  6. #66

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    Quote Originally Posted by acescream View Post
    og kuan sad bay @SioDenz, hagbay ra ko nakamata sa kamatuoran. Example bai ha kani kay common man kaau ni nimo makita sa mga tawo karon: ang pagkaon og dugo2x. "Only be sure that you do not eat the blood, for the blood is the life, and you shall not eat the life with the flesh." -Deuteronomy 12:23.."For the life of every creature is its blood: its blood is its life. Therefore I have said to the people of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any creature, for the life of every creature is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off." -Leviticus 17:14.."Only you shall not eat the blood; you shall pour it out on the earth like water." -Deuteronomy 12:16....Usa ra ni sa mga kamatuoran bai nga nakapamata nako, og napay daghan bai.
    that's good bai, continue reading the bible till you get to these parts...

    matthew 5:17
    “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

    Galatians 2:21
    "I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain."

    and 1 Corinthians 10:31
    So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.

    The mosaic laws were somehow perceived to have sub-parts such were sacramental,constitutional and moral

    the sacramental are laws how old testament people can keep themselves holy,clean and righteous..
    at least partially while waiting for the fullness of it..examples:are sabbath,offerings,how sins are atoned..etc
    constitutional are basically laws of the land...which obviously will not apply to our civilization...
    moral laws are Laws that have infinite value...which we can still see in our moral values...
    like stealing,killing, etc are bad...

    all sorts of Law are already fulfilled by Jesus..as He is our Righteousness, the final atonement of our Sins...
    therefore Jewish sacramental laws are already fulfilled by Jesus...
    i also believe that not eating something specific is also one of those laws...
    but if you are convicted by the Holy Spirit to fiollow certain OT Laws...then by all means do so...
    as the same manner applies that anyone can take the nazirite vow...
    which is to grow the hair long,abstain from wine..set self aprt for holiness...
    i also took the vow for a period of time...till my locks were so heavy...lapas na sa hawak..haha
    i still abstain from wine and alcoholic drinks though...however there are certain circumstances...
    that i shoudn't be black and white about them...esp that i already cut my hair..Lol..hehehe...
    btaw, conviction ra na bai.. not really absolute..
    Last edited by noy; 11-15-2012 at 05:55 PM.

  7. #67

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzai View Post
    I am not sure if UFO jud ang gidescribe ni Ezekiel pero if I'm going to imagine it, it does sound like a spaceship. Even sa Exodus, the author described something like a spaceship, a pillar of cloud that lights the path of the Jew at night and that pillar of cloud is also following them 24/7. If you are going to read the entire book of Ezekiel, you'll find out that Ezekiel ascended to heaven which could also tell us na it was some kind of a "LEVITATION" if we are going to view it in today's perspective. I believed that God can use those "aliens" in His works.

    bro no offense lng ha...nganu na spaceship nmn ang pillar of cloud ug pillar of fire?...kaning gi buhat sa Ginoo while nag lakaw ang mga Israelites igo raman niya gi gamitan ug clouds para malandongan cla di mainitan nya mahayagan ila dalan inig ka gabii para mkakita ug tarung...bro if nkabasa nka s Genesis naa bay "aliens" gi buhat ang Ginoo?..although nagbuhat ang Ginoo ug stars, moon, sun, ug planets outside the earth ala nmn xa gi buhat other "Beings" outside the earth aside from angels...

  8. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    that's good bai, continue reading the bible till you get to these parts...

    matthew 5:17
    “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

    Galatians 2:21
    "I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain."

    and 1 Corinthians 10:31
    So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.

    The mosaic laws were somehow perceived to have sub-parts such were sacramental,constitutional and moral

    the sacramental are laws how old testament people can keep themselves holy,clean and righteous..
    at least partially while waiting for the fullness of it..examples:are sabbath,offerings,how sins are atoned..etc
    constitutional are basically laws of the land...which obviously will not apply to our civilization...
    moral laws are Laws that have infinite value...which we can still see in our moral values...
    like stealing,killing, etc are bad...

    all sorts of Law are already fulfilled by Jesus..as He is our Righteousness, the final atonement of our Sins...
    therefore Jewish sacramental laws are already fulfilled by Jesus...
    i also believe that not eating something specific is also one of those laws...
    but if you are convicted by the Holy Spirit to fiollow certain OT Laws...then by all means do so...
    as the same manner applies that anyone can take the nazirite vow...
    ^lol bro, you're the one who needs to read the Bible completely. Before 1 Corinthians 10:31, there is 1 Corinthians 10:23 "“I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but not everything is constructive." 1 Corinthians 10:31 means bro that whatever you do, you do it for the glory of God. So you should not do what is restricted because God has set rules to follow, he didn't leave man to easily do what he pleases. Does murder glorify God? NO. Does stealing glorify God? No. Does worshipping idols glorify God? Absolutely NO. Lol bro, you took 1 Corinthians 10:31 word 4 word, which lead to twisting it's meaning. As what i've said bro, GRAMMAR matters. If Bisaya unta na 1 Corinthians 10:31, "kung mokaon ka man o moinom o kung unsa man imo buhaton, buhata ang tanan nga para sa ikahimaya sa Diyos."

  9. #69

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    Lol bro, eating blood doesn't belong to the Law, it's actually one of the restrictions of God to His people from the beginning(Genesis 9:4 "But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood.") to Christ's era(Acts 15:20 "But should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood.") up to the present of course because that restriction wasn't lifted. It's the same level of restriction with the one given by God to Adam & Eve which is not eating the Forbidden Fruit in the Garden of Eden. If you can see, man's first sin that was made is by eating what is not to be eaten. I agree with your explanation about the Law being fulfilled when Christ came, for He sacrificed Himself for the forgiveness of the people of Christ's sins. Ang mga wala nay pulos or obsolete na nga naa sa Law bai @SioDenz katong mga Jewish traditions nga girequire for the forgiveness of sins and some traditions(sabbath, tithe, festivals, esp sacrifice of lambs for the forgiveness of sins), wala nay gamit kay nafulfill naman na ni Christ pagsacrifice niya sa iyang self..ultimate form of sacrifice, mao usahay iregard cyag Lamb. Kasagaran pud sa mga misconception kay ang Ten Commandments kay apil sa Law WHICH IS DILI jud..Ten Commandments jud na sa Diyos, ABSOLUTE RULES jud. Peace

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    Acts 10:10-16

    " And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: Where in were all manner of fourfooted beasts, of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven."

    regarding s pagkaon it's true na s Old Testament daghan au bawal kan-on s mga jews and there were some laws na gi usab ni Jesus Christ sama n lng s pagkaon nya naa sd Old Testament law na nag pabilin...

    1 Corinthians 8:13

    " Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend."

    If ikaw ganahan ka mu kaon ug balot nya ang kauban di ganahan yaw n lng sd xa pugsa ug pakaon ma offend nya xa....if nahan sd ka mu kaon ug dugo2x nya ang imu kauban di nahan yaw n lng sd xa pkit-a na kamu duha mag atbang nya nagkaon ka ug dugo2x...mas maayo cguro if mukaon ka na ikaw rah isa or di nimu xa kuyog para way man offend..

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