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  1. #1951

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    ahak muinom mn unta ko ug beer ron... kadlawn nmn diay... hehehe nalingaw ko da... bunlot sa kog bugnaw nga beer beh. hehehe

  2. #1952

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epitaph View Post
    akong point gud sa alien issue.... mao nay proof nga di tinuod ang ginoo kay ibase lng nato sa unang pagtuo sa simbahan... ang taw ray gihimo sa ginoo nga naa diha sa bibliya nakasuwat... yep mutuo gyud ka demonyo kay mao mn na ang kaatbang sa ginoo wherein both d ko mutuo... kanang masaniban labi na recently sa jaclupan elementary skol mga bata na poses.... ingon ang usa ka pschologist... mass hysteria phenomenon to... which is wala koy idea unsa na... so nawala ang demonyo demonyo nga diagnosis sa mga tao...
    bai, the bible ldid not literally said that we were the only creations..

    if you read this part of the bible Colossians 1:15-17 it actually contradicts sa thought nga ang tao ray hinimu sa Ginoo..

    "The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together."

    what do you think about the conspiracy on aliens that i posted bai?
    Last edited by noy; 11-02-2012 at 01:04 AM.

  3. #1953

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    All things are possible....

    This is a never ending debate....I'll comment nlng kay wala man ko lingaw dere....seriously na bored lng ko run kay wa koy gibuhat and enjoyed reading and have learned a lot....hehe

    For Atheist longing for answers jud sincerely and not seeking debates, I think it's better that you seek doctor of divinities, specialists, the best scientists and study world history. I think for my own opinion, ang tao di man jud mo tuo if they are talking with people they thought nga ka level lng or even lower pa nila....

    And another thing also, since this is going in a loop jud, layo kau mo ma abtan ani, balik jud mu history of the universe then mag sanga sanga jud dayun na...If you continue just because of pride, then you're just wasting your time. Everything's been shown na, all the resources are very much available, like bible or internet.

    People usually wont believe in words nman karon, and knows everything, to see is to believe man jud kasagaran....why not look at the lifestyle of unbelievers and believers nalang. If you really want to seek the truth but also respects other religion, Try talking (talk and not argue) to different people from different beliefs. Try to get good things nlng from other people that you can use for your own life. Kanya2x baya ta....that's what makes the world go round...hehehe

    Listen to believers motto, maybe you can follow unsa mga motto in life sa mga believers you think can make your life better, how they live their lives, how they care for others, how they talk, how they do their chores everyday....stuff like that, then compare it to non believers or maybe look at your lifestyle and see the difference nlng. Mmm, don't tell me you are not longing to have a beautiful and satisfying life huh.

    If you think you're okay already then so be it, if you get interested in christianity then open your minds and hearts nlng. If your heart's not open, you'll never see the truth. Anyway, kasagaran near death experience kay manawag man dayun ug Ginoo. (kasagaran lng ha)

    And anyway, other people's experiences kay kung tawgun ka sa Ginoo ma piko man jud na imong tuhod ang cry, just like what happened to my father. Others are just seeking love because of their past experiences and then blame God for everything, so they'd rather not believe in God and follow their own path nlng. It's your decision and life really...

    I also understand nga uban sad christians kay d makita ang pagka Christian, but we are all growing and learning. Mao na kasagaran ang reason nga ma backslide kay mag tan-aw man gud ug tawo, so make sure to keep your eyes to your own principle...mine is Jesus so I'll keep my eyes on Him cuz he's perfect (for me ha! Remember, respect)

  4. #1954

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epitaph View Post
    ahak muinom mn unta ko ug beer ron... kadlawn nmn diay... hehehe nalingaw ko da... bunlot sa kog bugnaw nga beer beh. hehehe
    good to know nalingaw ka bai... ako naa diri sa ofis...nagtingkagol...hahaha!
    multi task...trabaho while type2x diri sa atong debate..Lol

  5. #1955

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epitaph View Post
    akong point gud sa alien issue.... mao nay proof nga di tinuod ang ginoo kay ibase lng nato sa unang pagtuo sa simbahan... ang taw ray gihimo sa ginoo nga naa diha sa bibliya nakasuwat... yep mutuo gyud ka demonyo kay mao mn na ang kaatbang sa ginoo wherein both d ko mutuo... kanang masaniban labi na recently sa jaclupan elementary skol mga bata na poses.... ingon ang usa ka pschologist... mass hysteria phenomenon to... which is wala koy idea unsa na... so nawala ang demonyo demonyo nga diagnosis sa mga tao...
    Well, the existence of aliens is not a good enough argument for the absence of a deity. If you have read enough post in this thread starting from Page 1, there are many philosophical arguments about the existence of God. Your argument is barely scratching the surface.

  6. #1956

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    bai, the bible ldid not literally said that we were the only creations..

    if you read this part of the bible Colossians 1:15-17
    "The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together."

    hmmm heaven, u mean outer space? or that imaginary place nga maski ang LUCIFER telescope sa Vatican di gyud na makit-an? hehehe btaw, ayaw lng ng bible bai kay himo ra nas taw... cyempre if naa ko ana nga belief as a writer sa bible, ako ra gyud isuwat diha ang tanang nindot para sa akong pagtuo

  7. #1957

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    What's historically confirmed, if I may ask?
    of course you may,

    it is confirmed that Jesus did walk on earth, what's on debate is about his claims regarding being divine
    it is confirmed that Jesus' disciples did walk on earth...both in history and archeaology
    their lives and their martyrdom...most of all...their actual writings...

  8. #1958

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    Quote Originally Posted by Epitaph View Post
    hmmm heaven, u mean outer space? or that imaginary place nga maski ang LUCIFER telescope sa Vatican di gyud na makit-an? hehehe btaw, ayaw lng ng bible bai kay himo ra nas taw... cyempre if naa ko ana nga belief as a writer sa bible, ako ra gyud isuwat diha ang tanang nindot para sa akong pagtuo
    it could mean both scientifically and theologically...after all...the things in space are scientifically called heavenly bodies diba?
    di ka mutoo ug bible kay hinimu sa tao, pero mutoo kag science books nga labaw pang hinimu sa tao...hehehe...
    at least ang bible kay of divine influence...
    now going back to logical argument regarding the content of the bible...

    the bible teaches,well Jesus teaches to Love our neighbors as ourselves
    love our enemeis and pray for thsoe who persecute them...it teaches about humility...
    kana pa lang daan bai, if sundon nga teaching sa tinuok leaders sa atong kalibutan ug leaders gkan sa ginadak,an ngadto sa
    kinagamyan nga tapok...sharo ug di nato ma attain ang "almost cliche" nga "world peace"
    im not sure ha but if there is, only a handful of them who were able to pull this commandment off
    if it was just plainly of human infulence...how come it's almost close to being impossible?
    as it it needs a divine intervention to be able to really love our enemies and be humble at all times....
    what do you think?

  9. #1959

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    Hehehe....wa nlng ko ka bantay sa akong lunch break...

  10. #1960

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    Well, the existence of aliens is not a good enough argument for the absence of a deity. If you have read enough post in this thread starting from Page 1, there are many philosophical arguments about the existence of God. Your argument is barely scratching the surface.
    sa Mahabharata sa ancient chinese scrolls ug ang bible naay common figures like adam and eve, noah, enoch ug uban pa.... tinuod ang aliens wudnt suffice the god idea thing... but ako point is, compared sa early statements sa church nga ang ila standpoint taw ray gihimo sa ginoo nya here comes the vatican consideration... it wud put the god idea back to the drawing board....

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