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  1. #121

    Default Re: Pinoy nurses told not to expect US hiring till 2020.

    Quote Originally Posted by jake_smack11 View Post
    daghan lagi bakanti bro pero unsaon man kung wala sila nag hire?.alangan naman mo serbisyo lang
    jud ka bisag walay sweldo...unya kung walay backer makasud kaha ug government hospital or even
    private hospital... ..thats why kasagaran nurse ganahan mo work sa abroad because they are just
    being practical kay kung nurse ka diri halos pareha ra mo ug sweldo sa guard..in some mas dako pa
    sweldo ang guard..
    bro given mana nga motrabaho ta para naa tay income, kasabot ko nga mangita gyud ug better opportunities ang tawo. But I just don't accept the explanation nga kuwang ta ug facilities thats why daghan ug nurses nga walay trabaho. There are many factors that led to the surge unemployed RNs. And the fact remains the same, that the main purpose of these professionals choosing this profession is to work abroad and not serve the local health care needs. Mao bitaw nang daghan ni take ani nga course kay it was a doorway for most Filipinos to work abroad, so since close man ang door ron for US and other countries for the RN market....they are stuck here, and then the government is blamed kay ngano kuwang ug facilities.....

    I also nag about the incompetency of the government and how it runs its service for tax payers, but for me...di lang gyud nako ma accept ang reason nga tungod kay kuwang ta ug facility mao nay rason nga nagkalata tanang RNs diri ron sa pinas.

  2. #122

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    Quote Originally Posted by high_heels View Post
    bro, I somehow disagree...go to the provincial areas kuwang kaayo ug mga nurses ang mga government hospitals even in private hospitals. Why? Kadaghanan sa mga nurses di gusto manatrabaho sa ilang lungsod ang kadaghanan kay gusto gyud ug abroad.

    Wa pa gyud ko kadungog ug nurses nga mo ingon...adto ko mo practice sa probinsiya sa amoa para katabang sad ko sa mga nanginahanglan didto (granting ha nga noble cause gyud ang main purpose sa kaning mga RN's). Kung di man gani abroad ari sa big cities mag huot ug insist apply ug jobs without realizing unsa na ka saturated.
    FYI, naka serve intawn ko sa among province. hehehe. i even give my services for free. maskin unsa pa na kalisud og kalayo sa lugar ky amo jud ng gi sulong para lang maka tabang sa mga tao. usahay, i even shed my own money out ky you know na... pero mas makit-an pud ko nimo sa mga classrooms sa mga public schools because im more on educating the people rather than curing them. pero those days were gone. sakto na to akong na help oi. c Lord na lang bahala.

    ni buhat ko ato ky gusto lang ko mo tabang. mao ng mag-uban2x ra ko sa mga nurses nga naka sulod sa NARS program and RN Heals. so kato akong mga kuyog ky naa to silay allowance sa national gov and sa local gov. ang ako ky volunteer ra jud. own will. ang advantage lang ky dili ko mag-uniform. hehehe.

    kargado sd sa among pamilya og paryente ky nagwork as health providers mn. naay doktors and dentists diri sa city. medtech and nurses sa gawas. but most of my relatives ky naa sa probinsya nag serve. and guess what, wala jud intawn na sila naka sulod og hospital as staff nurses. nag-hiring ba? wala jud. agad ra intawn sila sa RN Heals nga program. pasalamat gani sila ky na extend pa. karon nga padulong na mo expire ilang kontrata, tag-ana kung asa sila punta... balik na pud diri sa city. CC na pud daw sila work.

    let's face it, sa panahon karon, dapat practical na jud ang tao. you may feel very blessed if maka help ka. pero lahi ra jud ng naka tabang ka, unya tambok pud imong bulsa. diba?

    mahal baya ang tuition kadtong nag-eskwela pa mi. it's time to give back what our parents sacrificed para lang maka human sa pag-eskwela. but how can a person repay those people who helped him/her kung ang imong sweldo kuwangon ra? hhhmmmmm...

  3. #123

    Default Re: Pinoy nurses told not to expect US hiring till 2020.

    Quote Originally Posted by high_heels View Post
    But I just don't accept the explanation nga kuwang ta ug facilities thats why daghan ug nurses nga walay trabaho. There are many factors that led to the surge unemployed RNs. ....they are stuck here, and then the government is blamed kay ngano kuwang ug facilities.....

    I also nag about the incompetency of the government and how it runs its service for tax payers, but for me...di lang gyud nako ma accept ang reason nga tungod kay kuwang ta ug facility mao nay rason nga nagkalata tanang RNs diri ron sa pinas.
    kung wala nagkuwang ang health care facilities, ngano naghuot mn ng naa sa CCMC and sa sotto? kung igo ba jud atong facilities diri sa pinas, ngano naa pa may probinsya rn nga walay ospital or maskin ambulance mn lang? naga sunod ba jud ta sa sakto nga ratio sa nurse and patient?

    daghan ko kaila nga naa sa mga well-known nga private hospitals diri sa city nagwork. cge sila reklamo ky ilang sweldo ky kuwang ra jud. maskin pamlete ky dili na jud daw ka igo. ila lang ng gi antus tanan ky at least naa sila experience and at least ni practice sila sa iyang profession. para kung maghiring na ang gawas, aw, insured na sila. hehehe.

    kinsa mn sd intawn ganahan mo practice ana ilang profession kung i-exploit lang d i sila? hago kaayo unya exposed pa sa laing2x sakit unya dili well compensated. unya kng masayop gani, aw, wagtang dayun ang license. paksit!

    if only our government is doing something about this. pero sadly, this is not their priority.

    as what the song goes... KAUGMAONG GADAG-OM... good luck nurses. hehehe.

  4. #124

    Default Re: Pinoy nurses told not to expect US hiring till 2020.

    Quote Originally Posted by peewee_toot View Post
    FYI, naka serve intawn ko sa among province. hehehe. i even give my services for free. maskin unsa pa na kalisud og kalayo sa lugar ky amo jud ng gi sulong para lang maka tabang sa mga tao. usahay, i even shed my own money out ky you know na... pero mas makit-an pud ko nimo sa mga classrooms sa mga public schools because im more on educating the people rather than curing them. pero those days were gone. sakto na to akong na help oi. c Lord na lang bahala.

    ni buhat ko ato ky gusto lang ko mo tabang. mao ng mag-uban2x ra ko sa mga nurses nga naka sulod sa NARS program and RN Heals. so kato akong mga kuyog ky naa to silay allowance sa national gov and sa local gov. ang ako ky volunteer ra jud. own will. ang advantage lang ky dili ko mag-uniform. hehehe.

    kargado sd sa among pamilya og paryente ky nagwork as health providers mn. naay doktors and dentists diri sa city. medtech and nurses sa gawas. but most of my relatives ky naa sa probinsya nag serve. and guess what, wala jud intawn na sila naka sulod og hospital as staff nurses. nag-hiring ba? wala jud. agad ra intawn sila sa RN Heals nga program. pasalamat gani sila ky na extend pa. karon nga padulong na mo expire ilang kontrata, tag-ana kung asa sila punta... balik na pud diri sa city. CC na pud daw sila work.

    let's face it, sa panahon karon, dapat practical na jud ang tao. you may feel very blessed if maka help ka. pero lahi ra jud ng naka tabang ka, unya tambok pud imong bulsa. diba?

    mahal baya ang tuition kadtong nag-eskwela pa mi. it's time to give back what our parents sacrificed para lang maka human sa pag-eskwela. but how can a person repay those people who helped him/her kung ang imong sweldo kuwangon ra? hhhmmmmm...
    aww mao mana inyong gi sudlan nga profession bro so mao sad na ang reality sa inyong challenges sa inyong chosen profession. Good to know nga nag volunteer ka, but volunteer to gain certification for work abroad? If not and purely kawang gawa to imo then good to know bro. At least for once kadungog ko nga naay nag volunteer nurse kay tungod ganahan sila mo tabang..agree ko nga bawion ninyo inyong gasto sa schooling, mao bitaw naningkamot mo ug larga para mabawi diba?

    So in general, kwarta ang gi apas sa atong mga RNs and its not purely because it is their calling to care for people. For me lang, as a RN part of your job is to care for patients...so given naman na, bottomline, kwarta ra gihapon ug pag larga abroad ang primary reason sa mga RN's.

    Exempted ani katong mga RN's nga naa sa kabukiran nag serbisyo...but so far...murag ma ihap rani sila.

    P.S. why naka relate ko ani bro? I have 4 cousins nga RNs, 2 aunts nga RN's and close friends who are RN's...and the first two word of mouth nila....ABROAD ug KWARTA!
    Last edited by high_heels; 10-11-2012 at 12:52 AM.

  5. #125

    Default Re: Pinoy nurses told not to expect US hiring till 2020.

    Quote Originally Posted by high_heels View Post
    aww mao mana inyong gi sudlan nga profession bro so mao sad na ang reality sa inyong challenges sa inyong chosen profession. Good to know nga nag volunteer ka, but volunteer to gain certification for work abroad? If not and purely kawang gawa to imo then good to know bro. At least for once kadungog ko nga naay nag volunteer nurse kay tungod ganahan sila mo tabang..agree ko nga bawion ninyo inyong gasto sa schooling, mao bitaw naningkamot mo ug larga para mabawi diba?

    So in general, kwarta ang gi apas sa atong mga RNs and its not purely because it is their calling to care for people. For me lang, as a RN part of your job is to care for patients...so given naman na, bottomline, kwarta ra gihapon ug pag larga abroad ang primary reason sa mga RN's.

    Exempted ani katong mga RN's nga naa sa kabukiran nag serbisyo...but so far...murag ma ihap rani sila.

    P.S. why naka relate ko ani bro? I have 4 cousins nga RNs, 2 aunts nga RN's and close friends who are RN's...and the first two word of mouth nila....ABROAD ug KWARTA!
    i did not volunteer just to gain a certificate. i dont actually need that ky wala na koy plans mo larga sa gawas. basin wla ka naka basa sa akong gisuwat sa ibabaw nga it's my OWN WILL. ako ang gasto tanan. walay allowance gikan sa local and national government. in short, charity...

    sa kadtong nag-eskwela pa ko, gi tudlu-an mi nga as a nurse, kung mahimo, dili ta magstereotype ky it cannot help mn. so dili jud ka maka ingon nga KWARTA ra ang gi apas sa atng mga RNs diri. unique baya ang mga tao. lahi2x jud ta og reasons. whatever it is, we have to respect that. ayaw kog ingna nga tanang nag-pari og nag-madre ky calling jud na nila? same as to all other professions like teacher, police, engineer, and the like?

    again, let's be practical. let's admit the fact that it's a jungle out there. snap back to reality. kung dili mn d i ka ganahan maka kwarta, ngano ni eskwela pa mn ka? diba? naningkamot ang usa ka estudyante sa iyang pag-eskwela ky gusto cya nga in the future, maka land cya og nindot nga job. dili ky para i-exploit.

    i wonder if nagtrabaho ka rn ma'am high_heels. if so, try asking this question to yourself... WHY DO I WORK?

    question maam high_heels, ikaw ba ang ni gasto sa pag-eskwela sa imong mga relatives? ngano mn sd d i kung mao na ang tubag sa imng mga relatives kung why nagnursing sila? ila mn ng gusto. ganahan mn sila mo asenso ilang kinabuhi. you should be proud of them ky at least they have dreams in life. kung madatu mn gani sila, at least sa marangal na profession. im just curious kung ni cross ba sa imng mind kung unsay ma feel sa imong mga relatives kung maka basa sila sa imong gi post diri. hhhhmmm...

    do you really think nga kanang mga OFW ky ni gawas na sila ky para lang sa ilang own gain? think again. mind you, dili intawn lalim ang kinabuhi sa gawas sa nasud. kanang imong gi ingon nga kwarta, dili intawn na maka lapaw sa ilang mga sakripisyo og pag-antus. napugos ra intawn na ang uban og gawas. why? then, look around you. look at how institution exploit nurses.

    if only well compensated lang ang mga nurses diri sa atong nasud, do you really think mang-abroad na sila? if only jobs are available, do you think mo larga pa kaha na sila? ka nindot ra pud ah kung anhi ka sa pinas mo trabaho ky duol pa ka sa imong mga loved ones, chillax pa jud kaayo. maka feel kaha ang mga OFW ana ngadto?

  6. #126

    Default Re: Pinoy nurses told not to expect US hiring till 2020.

    Quote Originally Posted by peewee_toot View Post
    FYI, naka serve intawn ko sa among province. hehehe. i even give my services for free. maskin unsa pa na kalisud og kalayo sa lugar ky amo jud ng gi sulong para lang maka tabang sa mga tao. usahay, i even shed my own money out ky you know na... pero mas makit-an pud ko nimo sa mga classrooms sa mga public schools because im more on educating the people rather than curing them. pero those days were gone. sakto na to akong na help oi. c Lord na lang bahala.

    ni buhat ko ato ky gusto lang ko mo tabang. mao ng mag-uban2x ra ko sa mga nurses nga naka sulod sa NARS program and RN Heals. so kato akong mga kuyog ky naa to silay allowance sa national gov and sa local gov. ang ako ky volunteer ra jud. own will. ang advantage lang ky dili ko mag-uniform. hehehe.

    kargado sd sa among pamilya og paryente ky nagwork as health providers mn. naay doktors and dentists diri sa city. medtech and nurses sa gawas. but most of my relatives ky naa sa probinsya nag serve. and guess what, wala jud intawn na sila naka sulod og hospital as staff nurses. nag-hiring ba? wala jud. agad ra intawn sila sa RN Heals nga program. pasalamat gani sila ky na extend pa. karon nga padulong na mo expire ilang kontrata, tag-ana kung asa sila punta... balik na pud diri sa city. CC na pud daw sila work.

    let's face it, sa panahon karon, dapat practical na jud ang tao. you may feel very blessed if maka help ka. pero lahi ra jud ng naka tabang ka, unya tambok pud imong bulsa. diba?

    mahal baya ang tuition kadtong nag-eskwela pa mi. it's time to give back what our parents sacrificed para lang maka human sa pag-eskwela. but how can a person repay those people who helped him/her kung ang imong sweldo kuwangon ra? hhhmmmmm...

    Yes bro, that's one option I conveyed especially for the newly graduates/nurses. Career change rather than a licensed nurse without future or unpaid nurse volunteer for several years. Aside from CC, others went back to school just to pursue for medicine; others shift to other courses; others engage in networking business/home based jobs; others working on other medical fields eg health safety officer, med rep, phlebotomist, medical transcriptionist, therapist, nutritionist and lab technician. Worst is that I've seen nurses working as baggers/cashiers/fastfood crews and even drivers.
    Last edited by prestige; 10-11-2012 at 07:35 AM.

  7. #127

    Default Re: Pinoy nurses told not to expect US hiring till 2020.

    Quote Originally Posted by high_heels View Post
    aww mao mana inyong gi sudlan nga profession bro so mao sad na ang reality sa inyong challenges sa inyong chosen profession. Good to know nga nag volunteer ka, but volunteer to gain certification for work abroad? If not and purely kawang gawa to imo then good to know bro. At least for once kadungog ko nga naay nag volunteer nurse kay tungod ganahan sila mo tabang..agree ko nga bawion ninyo inyong gasto sa schooling, mao bitaw naningkamot mo ug larga para mabawi diba?

    So in general, kwarta ang gi apas sa atong mga RNs and its not purely because it is their calling to care for people. For me lang, as a RN part of your job is to care for patients...so given naman na, bottomline, kwarta ra gihapon ug pag larga abroad ang primary reason sa mga RN's.

    Exempted ani katong mga RN's nga naa sa kabukiran nag serbisyo...but so far...murag ma ihap rani sila.

    P.S. why naka relate ko ani bro? I have 4 cousins nga RNs, 2 aunts nga RN's and close friends who are RN's...and the first two word of mouth nila....ABROAD ug KWARTA!
    You know dude, nursing is a lucrative job like others do. Yes, I find that's a realistic answer. I'm also a health professional but working right now as professor on nursing academics. In the first place, people who took up nursing really inclined in going abroad just to gain bag of dollars without knowing the exact reason. I guess that's not the right attitude. I would prefer people that trudge with enduring passion or they might end up frustrated beyond expectations. There's too much hype and knowing it's not easy to go abroad.

    With the current situation, nurses were unable to search for a job due to lack of opportunities. As you can see, local markets were already congested leaving the oversaturated pool of unemployed nurses. They were forced to work for free and it's highly unethical. International markets scrutinize even more on added qualifications inorder to choose the deserving ones ahead for the curve. Tough competition exerts and barely everyone wants to survive yet a bitter pill to swallow. However, there's hope if they want to pursue their nursing dreams. They do come true if they strive hard; persevere in such ways and it will come on the right time.

  8. #128

    Default Re: Pinoy nurses told not to expect US hiring till 2020.

    @ prestige: sakto ka bai exploit mulang! mao pa ang e pa-on sa trabaho.

  9. #129

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    After working 3yrs as casual nurse in a regional hospital here in Visayas, I resigned last month of July.
    Dili ko ganahan mo abroad kay bago pa na married, dili sab mo sugot ako wife mag abroad.
    Stagnant kaayo ang career as a nurse diri sa ato nasud, esp. if you are in a government hospital na palakas system ang ways of promotion.
    As a conclusion, I decided na mag change ug career.
    Im also very lucky na very supportive ako wife, more than I can hope for.
    Now, Im happily resigned from hospital work and happy being a student again, looking forward to a brighter future, God willing.
    Also, with my 3yrs paid experience under my belt, I can and I am eligible to apply for abroad anytime, Im not so worried.

  10. #130

    Default Re: Pinoy nurses told not to expect US hiring till 2020.

    the difference between health care professionals between other courses is the number of employment opportunity in a certain place. like for instance here in cebu we only have 6 - 7 big hospitals to cater thousands of graduates.

    whereas I.e Engineering or IT related courses there bunch of opportunities in IT park,MEPZ and the like.

    if only there is a MEPZ type institution for hospitals then dli gyud mglisod ug trabaho ang mga nurses.

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