Selling Adult Dogs...Share your insights...

[Ricky Frenchie]

@ Crink11, Mao bitaw Bai nga niigon ko kung dili mahalin aw, oK ra pud naa ra sa balay. Ayaw lang gud ug ingon nga gipangwartahan. Kay sa nahinumduman nako since 2008 until now wala man jud ko makakwarta sa 3 nako ka drwam breeding. Wala pud ko mangandoy mangwarta sa akong iro kay kalooy form the MAn above, makita ra man pud ko ug pangwarta sa akong kayod pero usahay lisud pud gamay.
If you are into dog shows cguro mangandoy pud ka makabaton ug nindot nga iro para makatongtong pud sa podium nga ikaw pud nag produce anang iro-a.
Ayaw ana bai, nga wala ko nag huna2x as a responsible owner. kay lain na man na storyaha. Apil ug dog show ug pag breed usa ug iro para kabalo ka kung unsa. Ayaw pataka yawit.
Daghan man diay mo kahayopan so nahibaw ka? Unsa man daw nga kahayopan naa sa imuhang poder nga ikaw mismo nag gasto ug nag atiman para pud mi makabalo. Ingna nya ko kung naa kay adult nga hayop ipanghag for free kay naa koy daghang kaila gusto modawat.

matay bay... dili ni sila kasabot unsa ang mga agian sa mga show breeders/exhibitors, mao layo kaayo nga ila masabtan ang logic behind all these.

magboot2x pa gyud! nyahaha murag man sila ang nigasto sa acquisition ug maintenance sa mga iro nga ibaligya, for them to dictate what to do with adult dogs.

[Crinkles11]

Sa mga mopalitay ug iro mao ni usa sa important criteria on buying dogs.

Does the breeder have any old dogs on the premises? How long have their own dogs lived, and from what have they died? Beware of the person who sells off their adult dogs that are retired from showing and breeding. You want a breeder who loves the breed, not someone who loves to breed.

Read more: Evaluating a Pet Dog Breeder

[Ritter]

Bow to the Best Know-it-all Show Breeder in town

[jancemsy]

Sa mga mopalitay ug iro mao ni usa sa important criteria on buying dogs.

Does the breeder have any old dogs on the premises? How long have their own dogs lived, and from what have they died? Beware of the person who sells off their adult dogs that are retired from showing and breeding. You want a breeder who loves the breed, not someone who loves to breed.

Read more: Evaluating a Pet Dog Breeder

1000x agree!!!

Ako if ever i want to become a reputable breeder myself I wont going to sacrifice my adult dogs to some random homes because it has faults even if it cost me more. Selling adult dogs is not an option for me if breed standard lay storyaan...

[Ricky Frenchie]

Sa mga mopalitay ug iro mao ni usa sa important criteria on buying dogs.

Does the breeder have any old dogs on the premises? How long have their own dogs lived, and from what have they died? Beware of the person who sells off their adult dogs that are retired from showing and breeding. You want a breeder who loves the breed, not someone who loves to breed.

Read more: Evaluating a Pet Dog Breeder

selective posting... nakalim-tan nimo i-highlight ning uban pang points anang imo article nga gi-post bai ai, ill help you na lang. LOL


> Does the breeder produce animals markedly different from the typical examples of the breed? Beware of non-standard deviations from a breed being marketed as "rare" to justify exorbitant prices. Non-standard variations of purebred dogs (eg., white Dobermans, longhaired Whippets, miniature Dalmatians, etc.) are generally considered undesirable by legitimate breeders. Nonetheless, if you are insistent that you want a non-standard version of a pure breed, make sure you demand the same in terms of health and temperament scrutiny that you would of someone breeding conventional purebred dogs.

(daghan ani diri, diba bai? hehe )


> Along the same lines, are the animals being bred actually purebred dogs belonging to a breed recognized by some legitimate registry? I love mutts, but there�s no excuse for someone to charge hundreds of dollars to sell what is essentially a glorified mutt (eg., Cockapoo, Schnoodle, etc.). Unscrupulous breeders will claim that cross-breeds are somehow immune to the genetically-based health problems of their purebred brethren. This is not true. Again, if you are insistent that you want a cross-breed, make sure you demand the same of the breeder that you would of someone breeding purebred dogs.

(kani sad daghan.. mao makakita ta ug dam mixed-mixed, sire mixed-mixed - pups mixed-mixed-mixed-mixed )


> How knowledgeable is the breeder about this particular breed? Are they familiar with its historical origins? Can they educate you about the breed's disadvantages - especially genetic predisposition to health problems and characteristics like shedding, slobber, dominance, inter-dog aggression, etc. that may make owning the breed a challenge? Beware of anyone who sounds like a salesman and tells you that their breed has no disadvantages! Good breeders will play devil's advocate.

(nahh naa na sad igo ani haha)


> Does the breeder show their dogs in conformation, obedience, agility, schutzhund, field work, etc. to prove their dogs' quality as breeding stock? Can they demonstrate their dogs� abilities to you? Frankly, I do not believe that this is a requirement for one to be a good pet dog breeder, but those who actively compete in dog events tend to have an overall higher commitment to the breed. Still, don�t be fooled by titles, per se. A pedigree full of conformation "champions" has absolutely zero relevance to someone seeking a healthy, happy pet.

(bang! na sad. )


>Is the breeder "kennel blind" (believing that their dogs are perfect) or can they tell you the strengths and weaknesses of their particular dogs? What is their goal in breeding? Is their goal consistent with your vision of an ideal pet? If they are breeding for "health and temperament," have them explain exactly what they mean. Their idea of ideal temperament and yours may differ dramatically. If their goal is to produce their next show dog, have them explain how that will translate into a good pet for you. Ear-set and tail carriage mean nothing if the dog they produces bites your children or dies of cancer before his fifth birthday.

(dili lang kennel blind, argument blind pa gyud! buotay na lang haha )


see, for your one point, there are 5 other important points against your argument.

[Ricky Frenchie]

1000x agree!!!

Ako if ever i want to become a reputable breeder myself I wont going to sacrifice my adult dogs to some random homes because it has faults even if it cost me more. Selling adult dogs is not an option for me if breed standard lay storyaan...

believe me bai muputi pa ang uwak pero dili ka ma reputable breeder or even a show breeder man lang, trust me!


pm me lang here if ever you indeed become one na, kay ill bow down to you ok? hehe

[jancemsy]

Of course because the topic is about selling adult dogs. ROFL

selective posting... nakalim-tan nimo i-highlight ning uban pang points anang imo article nga gi-post bai ai, ill help you na lang. LOL


> Does the breeder produce animals markedly different from the typical examples of the breed? Beware of non-standard deviations from a breed being marketed as "rare" to justify exorbitant prices. Non-standard variations of purebred dogs (eg., white Dobermans, longhaired Whippets, miniature Dalmatians, etc.) are generally considered undesirable by legitimate breeders. Nonetheless, if you are insistent that you want a non-standard version of a pure breed, make sure you demand the same in terms of health and temperament scrutiny that you would of someone breeding conventional purebred dogs.

(daghan ani diri, diba bai? hehe )


> Along the same lines, are the animals being bred actually purebred dogs belonging to a breed recognized by some legitimate registry? I love mutts, but there�s no excuse for someone to charge hundreds of dollars to sell what is essentially a glorified mutt (eg., Cockapoo, Schnoodle, etc.). Unscrupulous breeders will claim that cross-breeds are somehow immune to the genetically-based health problems of their purebred brethren. This is not true. Again, if you are insistent that you want a cross-breed, make sure you demand the same of the breeder that you would of someone breeding purebred dogs.

(kani sad daghan.. mao makakita ta ug dam mixed-mixed, sire mixed-mixed - pups mixed-mixed-mixed-mixed )


> How knowledgeable is the breeder about this particular breed? Are they familiar with its historical origins? Can they educate you about the breed's disadvantages - especially genetic predisposition to health problems and characteristics like shedding, slobber, dominance, inter-dog aggression, etc. that may make owning the breed a challenge? Beware of anyone who sounds like a salesman and tells you that their breed has no disadvantages! Good breeders will play devil's advocate.

(nahh naa na sad igo ani haha)


> Does the breeder show their dogs in conformation, obedience, agility, schutzhund, field work, etc. to prove their dogs' quality as breeding stock? Can they demonstrate their dogs� abilities to you? Frankly, I do not believe that this is a requirement for one to be a good pet dog breeder, but those who actively compete in dog events tend to have an overall higher commitment to the breed. Still, don�t be fooled by titles, per se. A pedigree full of conformation "champions" has absolutely zero relevance to someone seeking a healthy, happy pet.

(bang! na sad. )


>Is the breeder "kennel blind" (believing that their dogs are perfect) or can they tell you the strengths and weaknesses of their particular dogs? What is their goal in breeding? Is their goal consistent with your vision of an ideal pet? If they are breeding for "health and temperament," have them explain exactly what they mean. Their idea of ideal temperament and yours may differ dramatically. If their goal is to produce their next show dog, have them explain how that will translate into a good pet for you. Ear-set and tail carriage mean nothing if the dog they produces bites your children or dies of cancer before his fifth birthday.

(dili lang kennel blind, argument blind pa gyud! buotay na lang haha )


see, for your one point, there are 5 other important points against your argument.

[heycroc]

with all due respect to all who posted in this thread, i believe that we have different perceptions on how we treat our dogs, to some like a family member to the point of humanizing the dog....what was intentionally an instinctive behavior of a pack dog was interpreted by humans as a form of affection. I could not discount the possibility that a dog and a man can create an extraordinary bond but for most of what is prevalent is merely an instinctual behavior of a dog in a pack. Some see dogs as the dogs that they are.....usually behaviorists like Cesar Milan has reached their reputation by fully understanding the dog language and behavior ....."to control or be controlled" that if you cant be a pack leader to your dog then your dog will stand up to be your pack leader. Others see dogs far more less. However deep this ridge of difference in our beliefs and convictions its still boils down to the adage "to each his own". We cannot impose our beliefs on others who sees this topic differently nor should we say condescending words to those whom we cant agree with.

The TS made this thread to gather insights on selling adults dogs so hopefully whether negative or otherwise, views and perceptions will fully be respected and refrain from attacking each others posts. Should you agree on the opinions of the poster or not i suggest you make a post that is entirely independent so as to keep a healthy discussion among members.

[Ricky Frenchie]

Of course because the topic is about selling adult dogs. ROFL

alas! the topic have migrated into responsible breeding because you yourself have questioned those who have decided to sell their dogs for valid reasons. one way ra kaayo mo'g utok, gusto ninyo irehome at no cost, kaswerte ba sa sama ninyo nga gaatang lang sa hatag. LOL

[jancemsy]

believe me bai muputi pa ang uwak pero dili ka ma reputable breeder or even a show breeder man lang, trust me!


pm me lang here if ever you indeed become one na, kay ill bow down to you ok? hehe

but can you be? ROLF pakitaa ko sa imong French Bulldog kana imong gi breed bagohay lang. you always talking as if you are in the shoes of a "good breeder" but ngano imo mani gi breed imo french bulldog without a SHOW TITLE. can you show us if qualified ba sa ring and good quality ba imo breed? rolf in that matter na sipyat naka.. diba you have to prove your bitch first in the ring before breeding? pwede mo ask pila age imo bitch from the time you bred her?

pina maayo man ka gud mura kag kinsa dli ka mao mo respito ubang tawo.. pariha ramo batasan sa imo breed VERY VERY STUBBORN AND STUPID