HEAVEN & HELL or REINCARNATION? what is your belief

[Breakeven]

YES.

Your question reminded me of a story from John Maynard Smith. He said, once there was a lady who challenged J. B. S. Haldane after a public lecture. The exchange went like this:

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Evolution sceptic: Professor Haldane, even given the billions of years that you say were available for evolution, I simply cannot believe it is possible to go from a single cell to a complicated human body, with its trillions of cells organized into bones and muscles and nerves, a heart that pumps without ceasing for decades, miles and miles of blood vessels and kidney tubules, and a brain capable of thinking and talking and feeling.
....when you say "It's not true because I find it hard to believe," there's actually a term for that, coined by Catholic biologist Kenneth Miller. It's called ARGUMENT FROM INCREDULITY.

A lot of things discovered in science is hard to believe....

Germs becoming Human? I don't think so
Can you give us evidence? but don't let me wait for million years ha, interested unto ko bears maka witness ani pero basin 50 yrs rako kutob I'd rather believe the word of God oi kay mas posible pa paminawn kaysa million years..hheheh. Basin madakdakan atong kalibutan ug asteroid next thousand years sad, impas tanan science.

[Breakeven]

unsay imong pasabot ana? sauna pagboot sa Ginoo ky maayo pa ang dagan sa kinabuhi, unya karon nga ingon ani na atong sitwasyon, di na pagboot sa Ginoo?

Asa man ang imong freewill? you mean to say nalipay ang ginoo sa kahimtang sa kalibutan karon? That's why if we understand the cross of Christ and the coming judgment masabtan nato tanan.

Resulta ni sa atong freewill and Sin of Satan. Pero ang sovereignty sa ginoo naa gihapon, in what way? wala mausab ang iyang pagsustain sa kinabuhi ug gipreserve pa gihapon niya ang kalibutan. But the situation will not take eternally. There will be an end to all these.

[Breakeven]

I'm not. Didn't I keep posting the names of Theists who endorse Darwin's theory: Pope John Paul II, etc.

You're wrong when you claim Darwin's Theory of Evolution By Natural Selection as an ATHEIST-only "belief". Here are few prominent evolutionary biologist who are Theists and who've endorsed the Darwinian theory:

1) Kenneth Miller (Catholic)
2) Francis Collins (Evangelical Christian)
3) Fr. Guy Consolmagno (Catholic)
4) the late American botanist Asa Gray (Presbyterian)
5) the late Ronald Fisher (Christian) and Theodosius Dobzhansky (Russian orthodox), architects of the modern evolutionary synthesis
6) Joan Roughgarden, author of Christian Faith: Reflections of an Evolutionary Biologist (Christian)

Would you say then that they're not Christians because they believe in Evolution? Of course NOT. How sure are you that God himself did not design the universe with Evolution being the mechanism of producing the diversity of life?

As a Christian, i believe in the evolution of life, the Micro-evolution which is what most of these scientists believed. It's not the Darwinian theory that we came from the lower organisms. I will stick to the bible coz it gives enough meaning to my existence!

And those who accept Darwin's Theory of Evolution are the forces of evil?

If they don't believe in God, I think so . What do you call then to those kinds of people?

[Bears Grill]

Germs becoming Human? I don't think so
Can you give us evidence? but don't let me wait for million years ha, interested unto ko bears maka witness ani pero basin 50 yrs rako kutob I'd rather believe the word of God oi kay mas posible pa paminawn kaysa million years..hheheh. Basin madakdakan atong kalibutan ug asteroid next thousand years sad, impas tanan science.

It won't take millions of years. It just takes 9 months. Don't you get my point?

What are germ cells? A germ cell is any biological cell that gives rise to the gametes of an organism that reproduces sexually.

What are gametes? Gametes are cells that fuses with another cell during fertilization (conception) in organisms that reproduce sexually.

How long does it take for a human being to form after fertilization? 9 months.

What's your problem?

[spike412]

bow!...............

[Bears Grill]

As a Christian, i believe in the evolution of life, the Micro-evolution which is what most of these scientists believed. It's not the Darwinian theory that we came from the lower organisms. I will stick to the bible coz it gives enough meaning to my existence!

Wrong. Read Kenneth Miller's explanation on Chromosome No. 2 which provides an astonishing evidence for the human-ape common ancestry. Read Francis Collins' books. Asa Gray was one of Darwin's supporters. Fisher and Dobzhansky created the modern evolutionary synthesis, which is an expansion of Darwin's theory (not a rejection). All these names I've mentioned accept Darwin's Theory, including its implications on human-ape common ancestry. It's sheer disrespect on these people by making them take a position they don't agree on. Puro ni sila ANTI-CREATIONISTS!

If they don't believe in God, I think so . What do you call then to those kinds of people?

So Richard Feynman is evil. Bertrand Russell is evil? Carl Sagan is evil? Isaac Asimov is evil? These people lack a belief in God, but that does not make them evil. Honestly, I'd rather hang out with Feynman and Russell than bigots like Pat Robertson or Ted Haggard or Kent Hovind.

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Asa man ang imong freewill? you mean to say nalipay ang ginoo sa kahimtang sa kalibutan karon? That's why if we understand the cross of Christ and the coming judgment masabtan nato tanan.

Resulta ni sa atong freewill and Sin of Satan. Pero ang sovereignty sa ginoo naa gihapon, in what way? wala mausab ang iyang pagsustain sa kinabuhi ug gipreserve pa gihapon niya ang kalibutan. But the situation will not take eternally. There will be an end to all these.

nganong naabot man ka ug freewill? you mean to say freewill sa tao to be born in a very poor family? nganong maabot man ta kung nalipay ba ang Ginoo? ang atong gi istoryahan diri is about sa tao nga matawo ug very poor family. kung apilon nato ang Ginoo ana, kung gipakatawo niya ang tao sa pobre nga pamilya, Wa Siya nalipay nganon iya tong gibuhat, dapat sa dato nga pamilya? mao ba?

Naapil na pud si Satan, kung makatubag pa siya moingon gyud nga "Ayaw ko ug apil apila ana ha, ayaw tawon ko ninyo pasanginli"

kung naapil si Satan, ang mga maayo pagkahimutang sa Ginoo to, unya ang dili kang Satanas pero naay pagboot sa Ginoo? mao ba?

[kit_cebu]

[Breakeven]

It won't take millions of years. It just takes 9 months. Don't you get my point?

What are germ cells? A germ cell is any biological cell that gives rise to the gametes of an organism that reproduces sexually.

What are gametes? Gametes are cells that fuses with another cell during fertilization (conception) in organisms that reproduce sexually.

How long does it take for a human being to form after fertilization? 9 months.

What's your problem?

Ah okay, thanks for clarifying bears
I assumed "kagaw" as in "virus" man gud. hhehee. No probs if that's what you mean.

[Breakeven]

@kit

hahahaa...nice one!
Kinsa tong doubtful about it? we can try.....and see kung tinuod jud diay!