MERGED: Trillanes vs. Enrile, and Related Issues

[Mandirigma]

Huh? Then you need to think and see more clearly. Try to look at things objectively if the chismoso in you can handle it. Try not to be swayed too much by someone's grandstanding with Trillanes' tainted reputation. I already presented facts proving my point.

Kabalo ka sir unsay facts? Excuse me but the Senate is not there to cater to your viewing needs. It is not a telenovela and it is not a showbiz gossip show. So satiate your desire for gossip elsewhere.

naunsa naman ka bro. kalma lang gud, imo naman hinoon kong birahan. basaha ra gud ng ponto nako, wa jud ka nako pasakiti mao ng hangyo lang pod ko nga be civil.

Again ang point nako is katong nakita nako sa TV, tsismis na kong tsismis but it was Sen. Trillanes privileged speech, and he was accusing Manong Enrile of something, ang pinaka nindot onta niya gibuhat ato is to refute the accusations, ang gibuhat man hinoon niya is iya man hinoon gi birahan si Trillanes, wa niya gi atubang ang issue instead naghimo si Manong Enrile og laing issue nga way labot sa topic. So klaro kaayo nga gi DIVERT ni Manoy Enrile ang heat padung didto ni Trillanes, very old trick, hinoon old naman pod siya.

[keen]

Instead of answering the accusation against him, Enrile counters by attacking the credibility of Trillanes. Thats the oldest trick in the book yet people still fall for it.

Check.....

[Mandirigma]

You are correct bro.nabulgar man ang iya plano nga i-divide ang CAMSUR para sa mga last termer nga congressman,like the son of GMA.mao na iya dayun gi-divert ang issue.remember time of GMA,katong controversy ni JPE sa iyang logging company sa surigao,if i'm not mistaken.maru ni kaayo ni si JPE,mao ni gitawag ug political butterly.since time of marcos,mao na ni iya strategy.

mao lagi. e divide harun maka lingkod pa. liman ka bisag ka bagyo nag pa sesyon jud ni si JPE haron lang matuki ni nga issue, morag gadali ba.

Instead of answering the accusation against him, Enrile counters by attacking the credibility of Trillanes. Thats the oldest trick in the book yet people still fall for it.

korek, mao nay basa nako.

then during s ponto por ponto ni Anthony sa ABS CBN gi challenge si JPE ni Sen.Trillanes nga mo file og kaso against him kong naa siyay nakita nga sayop s gibuhat ni Sen. Trillanes, ang tubag man hinoon ni JPE kay "i don't waste my time..." sakto ba gud na. Reklamo siya nga sayop si Trillanes nya karon gi challenge to file a case, di niya buhaton.

[trollolol]

Instead of answering the accusation against him, Enrile counters by attacking the credibility of Trillanes. Thats the oldest trick in the book yet people still fall for it.

Because he who alleges carries the burden of proof and that is the general principle.

Like for example naa ka ga park sa ayala. Then ni double park ko deying your car access. Saba kaayo ka shagit shagit ka accusing me of being rude etc...

If you have proof like pictures then I am obligated to answer. If wala then sorry ka nalang because the law is now on my side.

Has Trillanes offered any proof to back up his allegations against the esteemed statesman JPE? No proof only insinuations, assumptions, and empty allegations.

People have been calling Pnoy abnoy but has he gone on record to prove that he is not? No because he is not obligated to answer baseless allegations.

EVEN THOUGH:

He looks like one
Acts like one
Speaks like one

Do you people not see the beauty of this principle?

[mr.twin]

ngano man tawon s trillanes man ipadal nga wla man gani na experienced pag negotiate.. unya nagtabang raba pagpagawas sa prisohan ni trillanes s JPE pa gyd.. walk out man lagi.. sa yaha b-day ni trillanes mga chino ang bisito...hehehe

[Mandirigma]

Because he who alleges carries the burden of proof and that is the general principle.

Like for example naa ka ga park sa ayala. Then ni double park ko deying your car access. Saba kaayo ka shagit shagit ka accusing me of being rude etc...

If you have proof like pictures then I am obligated to answer. If wala then sorry ka nalang because the law is now on my side.

Has Trillanes offered any proof to back up his allegations against the esteemed statesman JPE? No proof only insinuations, assumptions, and empty allegations.

People have been calling Pnoy abnoy but has he gone on record to prove that he is not? No because he is not obligated to answer baseless allegations.

EVEN THOUGH:

He looks like one
Acts like one
Speaks like one

Do you people not see the beauty of this principle?

no proof is needed kay kabalo na ang mga senador ana. Even Enrille himself did not ask Sen. Trillanes to provide his evidence, ma klaro man pod sa reaksyon ni Enrille nga na sakpan siya kay instead of denying the accusation, gi bali man hinoon niya ang istorya.

[trollolol]

no proof is needed kay kabalo na ang mga senador ana. Even Enrille himself did not ask Sen. Trillanes to provide his evidence, ma klaro man pod sa reaksyon ni Enrille nga na sakpan siya kay instead of denying the accusation, gi bali man hinoon niya ang istorya.

How can I take you seriously when you say things like this? No proof is needed?

Has any senator come out in the open to support Trillanes? Not even one party mate ni Trillanes is coming to his aid. Unsa man imo basis sa pag ingon na hibalo na ang mga senators daan? Chismis?

Imo gibasehan is ang reaction sa taw and not the facts. You make for a poor investigator. You cannot see things objectively.

[edgeknife]

since gikan man ko vacation mao ra ni akong opinion:

as for the Camarines Sur division, I am in the side of Trillanes baya. mura man self interest ang gi apas ni villafuerte og datu arroyo. mao na gilabanan ni trillanes nga dli ma divide ang Camarines Sur.

ang kini lang lagi nga backdoor negotiator si Trillanes, diha lang ko mo question niya. tabla man tag gi-baligya ta sa china. to be honest, mo vote baya ko aning trillanes karong 2013 elections. with this bukingan ni enrile, i have second thought already. and i even never liked enrile kay balimbing pod na siya, depende kinsa ang presidente.

[vipvip68]

Because he who alleges carries the burden of proof and that is the general principle.

Like for example naa ka ga park sa ayala. Then ni double park ko deying your car access. Saba kaayo ka shagit shagit ka accusing me of being rude etc...

If you have proof like pictures then I am obligated to answer. If wala then sorry ka nalang because the law is now on my side.

Has Trillanes offered any proof to back up his allegations against the esteemed statesman JPE? No proof only insinuations, assumptions, and empty allegations.

People have been calling Pnoy abnoy but has he gone on record to prove that he is not? No because he is not obligated to answer baseless allegations.

EVEN THOUGH:

He looks like one
Acts like one
Speaks like one

Do you people not see the beauty of this principle?

If dili gyud to tinuod ang storya ni Trillanes, JPE could have answered him back that his accusations are baseless or he could have challenged Trillanes by demanding proof sa iyang accusations...

But What did he do? Iya gi divert ang issue... Now people suddenly forgot about what Trillanes was talking about unya ang issue na kay ang scarborough and China....

As I said, BOTH issues should be dealt with SEPARATELY... dili sagol sagolon para libog sa mga tao.


Trillanes wasn't even given an opportunity to present evidence to backup his story (kay gi divert lagi ang issue)... pero sa kang JPE nga side, Traitor na daw si Trillanes just coz he met with some Chinese.

Ang pangutana... unsay tawag nato ni Enrile nga mu read ug mga Top Secret documents in public? He could have atleast done that in a closed door session. Klaro kaayo nga squid tactic to get peoples attention away from his dealings with the Villafuertes and Arroyos.

[Mandirigma]

How can I take you seriously when you say things like this? No proof is needed?

Has any senator come out in the open to support Trillanes? Not even one party mate ni Trillanes is coming to his aid. Unsa man imo basis sa pag ingon na hibalo na ang mga senators daan? Chismis?

Imo gibasehan is ang reaction sa taw and not the facts. You make for a poor investigator. You cannot see things objectively.

im sorry but im not here to satisfy your curiosity.

Enrille's reaction says it all. puede ra man unta nga mo ingon si Enrille nga di na "tinood" or "mr. trillanes show me your evidence", but iyang reaction was to attack the character of Sen.Trillanes. layo ra kaayo sa isyu ang iyang reaction.

mostly ra ba basta ingon ani ang reaction sa gi akusahan, duna jud nay amount of truth ang accusation.