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  1. #131

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    Just be a good person. I just live by that. No matter unsa imu religion or kinsa imu ginatuuhan nga ginoo, one rule ra jud ma apply sa tanan- just be good.

  2. #132

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    TS naa mang.gud Bible Mystery which is d natu maexplain maayo kay Divine sya by nature nya kita tawo ra bya ta naay limitation ang panghunahuna sa explain ug mga bagay bagay. Para di sad ka maglibog TS maghuwat nlng ta sa 2nd Jesus Christ Return and try to ask HIM about ana (Things nga imong gpaligban) ~ I know nga sya ra mkatubag nimu. As of now ang ato lng jud mabuhat TS is Obey God's Commandments, Live like Jesus and Have a intimate Relationship with HIM. God Bless

  3. #133

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    anybody can be sakto or sayop. i mean not proven pa man. even sa inyong salvation, di pa man na proven. na prove na ba? tell me straight if proven na ba?

    so that's why, since everything has not been proven yet, we have to gather more info, analyse and study... then some day, months, years, lifetimes, we can conclude.

    possible nga kini sa yawa, but based on my explanation in my previous post, possible pud nga ang gipagawas ug gipatoo about Jesus is the only son, and kita dili anak sa Ginoo, possible pud nga inyoha sa yawa pud.

    reincarnation is a good tool for salvation, but it is not the way to salvation. Jesus' sacrifice could be, but it could also be that Jesus showed an example of sacrifice, and gipatoo too lng nga through what he had done, mao na atong tuhu-an para ma save ta so that we will not do our part to sacrifice for God our Father, so that we will not work on our way to God, and assurance ni satan nga dili nata maka leave nya diri sa earth

    kinuha ni nako sa site, i can consider this explanation also about miracles nga gi perform ni Jesus, healing:

    Jesus did not come to heal people's bodies, or make people successful or wealthy. He came to deliver God's message that God wants us to trust Him. God wants us to return to Him and re-establish our loving relationship with Him. This is why Jesus' most important instruction, as was Moses' and all the other prophets' most important instruction, was:

    “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment.” (Matt. 22:37)

    When we love someone, we trust them. When we trust them, we have faith in them, and we can serve them with love.
    that's relative bro, and i agree with you on that..i could be wrong really...
    but the difference between us is that i have found and arrived with my conclusion..
    this teaching of a God who Loves me and would do anything just to save me
    even to the point of sending His Own..to take my place...knocked me off my feet...hehe
    like i said ganina, it felt like naa koy grabeh ka dako nga utang...the like that even my own life would not suffice
    and i was about to be put to daeth and the generation after me ;cause of that utang...
    but someone came to me and said, OK na tanan..ako nang gibayran...Let me take your place...
    please claim the receipt that says paid in full..i don't know where to look for Satan in that aspect...
    'cause the Devil is selfish what Jesus did was selfless...
    and if the early Christians knew that Jesus was not God, if they knew that Jesus did not resurrect...
    if they knew that Jesus was just a man..i don't think they would die for a lie..
    specially the cowardice dicsiples of Jesus, what do you think that could cause the turned of events...
    that the disciples changed from cowards to strong pillare and proclaimers of the gospel..even to the point of death...
    what earthly profit would they actually get for proclaiming Jesus as Lord?
    in fact it cost them their lives..all of them were martyrd..
    and even if anyone or a church is using Christ for money or for business or for whatever personal gain reasons...
    remember the verse you qouted about not all who call Him Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven?
    that's where it comes in...truly these corruptions are very evident in the present and even in the church before...
    but that doesn't out-count the greatest Love story ever told...
    that someone up there wanted to make things a lot easier for us...
    even to the point of dying on the cross.

  4. #134

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    Quote Originally Posted by henrinator View Post
    Reading all these earlier posts reminds me of the hypocrites and the pharisees, ARGUING, trying to disprove the other, talking about the word of God, squabbling like little children.

    the bible is just a guide, the scriptures are compilation of narrations of different writers, parables(which are said to be taught by Jesus himself) are stories meant to teach us a certain lesson. All these things are not to be taken literally because if you would, most of which are not applicable today. Some of the stories also show contrasting ideas/views which would just add to your confusion(if taken literally) like stories about forgiveness...some stories view God as very forgiving while there are also a few showing his ruthless side.. thus a very literal man would kill himself asking "WHY?"..

    instead of searching for the truth, searching for who is right or wrong, focus all your energy into living your life choosing the options which are "morally good". (i don't have to tell you what those things are, you'll know it by heart..)


    andddddddd don't forget to pray and thank God for the life you're living (but just wasting on doubting or asking nonsense)


    disclaimer: i'm not a holy man, i'm not part of any christian youth group whatsoever, i'm just an ordinary man, i don't look more christian than any of you are, i don't go to church every Sunday(i skip mass), i had my last confession a year ago, but I BELIEVE IN GOD AND HIS LOVE, AND I'M TRYING TO LIVE MY LIFE ACCORDING TO HIS WILL DESPITE THE MANY EVILS I FACE EVERY DARN DAY. no more no less.

    share lang ko ani nga question ninyu mga brader ug sister:

    If you were sued for being a Christian(granting illegal na), would there be sufficient evidence to convict you??
    so pre miingon ka nga "I BELIEVE IN GOD AND HIS LOVE, AND I'M TRYING TO LIVE MY LIFE ACCORDING TO HIS WILL DESPITE THE MANY EVILS I FACE EVERY DARN DAY"; so how do you know the will of GOD?

  5. #135

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    mamatay diay na ang soul? naa diay living ug dead soul? pls explain
    Yes it can die TS, please read Ezekiel 18:20..

  6. #136

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    This is what i believed - The Bible is handed down from generation to generation and i strongly believe that this book is the Love letter of God the Father to those who called by his name, true Christians and they can understand the teachings from old to new testament without any conflict. - meaning if you were not called, no matter how wise you are, you can cannot understand or can explain the true meaning of the scriptures. This is the proof that we have now so many religions in the world today,- as predicted in the bible - they are trying to understand and explains on their own understanding and creates misleading and wrong beliefs. Others and mostly they do business out of this wrong teachings.... So people, ask yourself which side are you?...

  7. #137

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    can you explain the Bible verse below, i have my own explanation but need also your to compare.

    "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" (Matt. 7:21-23)

    klaro man si Jesus ani nga dili siya Lord or God, he even called those who say he is Lord "evildoers", and only those who do the will of his father will enter the kingdom of heaven

    "My teaching is not my own. It comes from Him who sent me." (John 7:16)
    Jesus was sent as representative of God, to spread the teachings that comes from God

    "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but He sent me." (John 8:42)

    These and many other statements by Jesus clarified that he is not God. He is sent by God. He is God's representative.
    Matthew 7:21-23 Jesus called them evildoers in spite of them claiming to have done all these spectacular things in His name. The explanation to this TS is very simple. These people are liars that's why Jesus called them evildoers. What they're claiming on that day is not true. Jesus said previously ""I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me--" (John 10:14)So these guys are not His sheep, He never knew them. Asa man ta moto-o sa atong Ginoo or aning mga tawhana? So simple ra kaau TS, bakakon ning mga tawhana. However wa gyud probs ni nga verse with the Divinity of Jesus Christ. So what lage if GOD the Father sends unto the world GOD the Son (Jesus Christ) that He (GOD the Son) may reveal GOD the Father to mankind and then dying on the cross to save them, bring them back to the Father's fold.


    John 7:16 Atong sugdon TS nganong mi ingon ani pagsulti atong Ginoo. Mao ni ang eksena; Jesus was preaching in the Temple and the Jews were amazed kai they knew that Jesus was just a carpenter's son, didn't have a formal education yet He knew so much. Mao ni context sa statement sa atong Ginoo dri TS; Jesus knew what they were thinking nga HE is nothing a rustic, nobody in town, so mao nga misulti xa nga what He was saying/teaching is not his own but it doesn't made Him less of what He claimed later on the narrative of John. In fact nakasabot ang mga Jews, especially ang mga Pharisees, sa claim ni Jesus about being the Son of GOD as equating Himself to be GOD og unya tungod ana nasuko sila pag ayo kai nakasabot sila sa claim ni Jesus. And yes Jesus claimed that HE's GOD kindly read John 8:58, read on TS don't stop on just one verse and revolve around it.


    John 8:42 My Father sent me. Jesus was on a mission. He was sent to do the Father's work, to do the Father's mission, and to bring glory to the Father by completing his work - dying on the cross to save mankind whom the Father so loves. Wa mai problema ni nga verse with Christ being GOD? So what if GOD the Father sends GOD the Son (Jesus)? It doesn't make Him any less than what He claimed to be in John 8:58.. Read on lage TS, don't stop on a verse and revolve around it.


    Jesus Christ clearly taught His own divinity TS read Mark 2:5-11.

  8. #138

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLX90Six1 View Post
    This is what i believed - The Bible is handed down from generation to generation and i strongly believe that this book is the Love letter of God the Father to those who called by his name, true Christians and they can understand the teachings from old to new testament without any conflict. - meaning if you were not called, no matter how wise you are, you can cannot understand or can explain the true meaning of the scriptures. This is the proof that we have now so many religions in the world today,- as predicted in the bible - they are trying to understand and explains on their own understanding and creates misleading and wrong beliefs. Others and mostly they do business out of this wrong teachings.... So people, ask yourself which side are you?...
    +1 nasad ko ani.. up up

    In light to the above quoted statement; mao nga mi ingon atong Ginoo Jesus in Luke 18:16-17 But Jesus called the children to him and said, "Let the little children come to me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. I tell you the truth, anyone who will not receive the kingdom of God like a little child will never enter it." Hinumdum ta sa una mga gagmayng bata pa ta, ig sulti sa atong papa nga dli aw wai daghang langas to-o gyud ta kai c papa man nag sulti and we trust because papa said it. Mao sad ni dri sa mga gipang sulti sa Bibliya about sa pagka Dios ni Ginoong Jesu-Cristo. Just like what BLX said of the Bible being the Love Letter of GOD the Father, if dli nato dawaton as little children aw di gyud nato masabtan. Simple kaau ug solution atong Ginoo, He said; "Don't let your heart be troubled you believe in God you believe also in me". Why? "Because I am GOD".

  9. #139

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    Quote Originally Posted by jovipeorliohacokijo View Post
    anybody can be sakto or sayop. i mean not proven pa man. even sa inyong salvation, di pa man na proven. na prove na ba? tell me straight if proven na ba?

    so that's why, since everything has not been proven yet, we have to gather more info, analyse and study... then some day, months, years, lifetimes, we can conclude.

    possible nga kini sa yawa, but based on my explanation in my previous post, possible pud nga ang gipagawas ug gipatoo about Jesus is the only son, and kita dili anak sa Ginoo, possible pud nga inyoha sa yawa pud.

    reincarnation is a good tool for salvation, but it is not the way to salvation. Jesus' sacrifice could be, but it could also be that Jesus showed an example of sacrifice, and gipatoo too lng nga through what he had done, mao na atong tuhu-an para ma save ta so that we will not do our part to sacrifice for God our Father, so that we will not work on our way to God, and assurance ni satan nga dili nata maka leave nya diri sa earth

    kinuha ni nako sa site, i can consider this explanation also about miracles nga gi perform ni Jesus, healing:

    Jesus did not come to heal people's bodies, or make people successful or wealthy. He came to deliver God's message that God wants us to trust Him. God wants us to return to Him and re-establish our loving relationship with Him. This is why Jesus' most important instruction, as was Moses' and all the other prophets' most important instruction, was:

    “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment.” (Matt. 22:37)

    When we love someone, we trust them. When we trust them, we have faith in them, and we can serve them with love.
    Third paragraph from the last and onwards is sakto.. Now Who did Jesus said He was? Jesus said to them, "Most certainly, I tell you, before Abraham came into existence, I AM." (John 8:5 Jesus said this right after the Jews said to Him in verse 57; "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?". Diha na ang atong Ginoong Jesu-Cristo, wa pa gani matawo si Abraham.

    God said to Moses, “I AM who I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I AM has sent me to you.’” (Exodus 3:14)

    Conclusion: Jesus was clearly causing the Jews to reflect upon the divine name "I AM" that Jesus used for himself. We know that they understood this because as is said above, they said, "You, being a man, make yourself out to be God," (John 10:33). Moreover ipuno nalang sad ta ni. Matt. 2:2; 14:33; 28:9; John 9:35-38 in these verses Jesus received worship, only GOD is to be worshiped kabaga gud ug nawong ni Jesus og modawat Siyag mga pagsimba kun dili pa Siya DIOS? The Apostles stopped people from worshiping them telling them that they are just mere men and only GOD is to be worshiped but our Lord Jesus did not. Why? Because our Lord Jesus Christ is GOD.

  10. #140

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    And finally, we know that Jesus is God in flesh because the Bible tells us so.

    John 20:28-29, "Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" 29 Jesus said to him, "Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed."

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