Real Teachings of Jesus

[noy]

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shot naka sa bangag TS
ask lang ko, kanang imung source nga giingun, how legit is it?
is it more legit than the one has that been written before your great,great,great,great......
grandfather was born?and until now is still in publication.yes i'm talking about the bible..
tell me TS, you know St.augustine, rene descartes, and some scientists and theologeans...
who they believed solidly in the bible to be God's word and Jesus to be the only Son of God who can save us...
are you saying nga mas kahibaw ba ka kaysa sa ila?
of course you have all the right to share your POV
but sharing it as if you are CORRECT and what you think is RIGHT
is another story

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

shot naka sa bangag TS
ask lang ko, kanang imung source nga giingun, how legit is it?
is it more legit than the one has that been written before your great,great,great,great......
grandfather was born?and until now is still in publication.yes i'm talking about the bible..
tell me TS, you know St.augustine, rene descartes, and some scientists and theologeans...
who they believed solidly in the bible to be God's word and Jesus to be the only Son of God who can save us...
are you saying nga mas kahibaw ba ka kaysa sa ila?
of course you have all the right to share your POV
but sharing it as if you are CORRECT and what you think is RIGHT
is another story

i did not confirm that they were legitimate, but what i have said, somehow different ni ilang explanation of what i used to believe, and their explanation is also acceptable, i did not say, nga d pud acceptable ang previous nga akong gituhu-an, but somehow, mas gitagaan nako ug gibug-aton ang ilang explanation, meaning it is on top of the other kung i compare, the new idea gives me a better chance of salvation than the old one and naa sila support nga explanation from the verses

wa pud ko niingon nga nakabalo sila... and as i am reading your statement, i doubt, doubt lng ha nga you read thoroughly their explanation, but it is ok kung close na imong mind to what you have believed

[raissah]

maypa si ts. can keep his cool.

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

Kung naa kay nalibugan ts (ug sa mga tawo nga nakabasa), pwede ra man sad mo consult ka directly sa mga religious leaders sa bisan unsa nga simbahan nga may kaalam pag hubad. Ug timbang timbanga kung kinsa jud paminaw nimu ang sakto. Kay bisan ako nakasiguro nga dili jud tanan nga gitudlo sa atong ginikanan ug sa mga tawo nga atong gituohan nakahibaw about religious teachings, nga nakasabot sad mismo sa ilang nabasa.

Kada usa nato naay utok ug kasing-kasing, utok aron magamit sa pag analisar, kasing2x magamit sa paghigugma ug tinud-anay nga pagtoo.

it's hard to consult these things to religious leaders, these are not acceptable to them, pero sa akong paminaw, mas daku ko ug chance for salvation with this things nga real teachings kuno ni Jesus than what catholic/christians are teaching

di lang utok ug kasingkasing ang gamiton pag analyze... you can never analyze kung bias na ka, dapat with an open mind and an open heart... accept, accept, accept... compare, compare, compare... then decide

[THE KID]

welcome to the church TS....

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

source: Reincarnation and the early Christians

The existence of a secret teaching can be found in the New Testament:

The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables so that, 'they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding' (Mark 4:11-12)

"He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance." (Matt. 13:11-12)

"We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began." (1 Cor. 2:6-8 )

"So then, men ought to regard us as servants of Christ and as those entrusted with the secret things of God." (1 Cor. 4:1)

"At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and Earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was your good pleasure." (Matt. 11:25-26)

Paul wrote about teachings which are taught to spiritual "babies," teachings about righteousness for the more mature, and then teachings for the spiritually mature. Paul reveals this fact immediately after equating Melchizedek to Jesus by stating:

"We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn. In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil. (Heb. 5:11-14)

According to tradition, after the Roman invasion of Jerusalem, the author of the Gospel of Mark established a church in Alexandria, Egypt. Mark may also have been the author of a "secret gospel" containing more advanced teaching for those being initiated into the Christian mysteries. This secret gospel contains passages portraying Jesus teaching secret doctrines.

[noy]

i did not confirm that they were legitimate, but what i have said, somehow different ni ilang explanation of what i used to believe, and their explanation is also acceptable, i did not say, nga d pud acceptable ang previous nga akong gituhu-an, but somehow, mas gitagaan nako ug gibug-aton ang ilang explanation, meaning it is on top of the other kung i compare, the new idea gives me a better chance of salvation than the old one and naa sila support nga explanation from the verses

wa pud ko niingon nga nakabalo sila... and as i am reading your statement, i doubt, doubt lng ha nga you read thoroughly their explanation, but it is ok kung close na imong mind to what you have believed

in your own POV bro..
how do you suppose we are going to be saved? if not in the way that the bible teaches?
so it's not really 100% legit as you've said...so meaning niuyon ka sa ilang idea tungod kay mas mu fit sa imung idea of how salvation should be? sakto ko bro?please correct me if i'm wrong..

[noy]

maypa si ts. can keep his cool.

cool ra man pud ko rais..hahaha btaw appreciate sad nako pagka kalma aning TS

[kit_cebu]

[jovipeorliohacokijo]

in your own POV bro..
how do you suppose we are going to be saved? if not in the way that the bible teaches?
so it's not really 100% legit as you've said...so meaning niuyon ka sa ilang idea tungod kay mas mu fit sa imung idea of how salvation should be? sakto ko bro?please correct me if i'm wrong..

kaning ilang explanation bro, sa bible pud bya gikan, what can you say about that?

kabasa ka ani?

Paul wrote about teachings which are taught to spiritual "babies," teachings about righteousness for the more mature, and then teachings for the spiritually mature. Paul reveals this fact immediately after equating Melchizedek to Jesus by stating:

"We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain because you are slow to learn. In fact, though by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to teach you the elementary truths of God's word all over again. You need milk, not solid food! Anyone who lives on milk, being still an infant, is not acquainted with the teaching about righteousness. But solid food is for the mature, who by constant use have trained themselves to distinguish good from evil. (Heb. 5:11-14)


as supported with those bible verses, if there really existed "real/secret teachings of Jesus", i think i have a better chance of salvation than what religious leaders are saying/teaching which they also get from the bible