Discussion on the Christ Jesus.

[angelfyre]

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boys n girls!!!

tonight na jud ni!!!

[pagano]

[angelfyre]

ka bad...i dint know awahe nasad ta. wen kaha ni?

[jasonrey]

nasalida ni sa discovery channel gabii? unsay sulod sa documentary?
bati-a sa skycable oy, wala may ani nga channel. tsk tsk...

[Sinyalan]

It's all here in this website...

http://jesusfamilytomb.com/

[angelfyre]

nasalida ni sa discovery channel gabii? unsay sulod sa documentary?
bati-a sa skycable oy, wala may ani nga channel. tsk tsk...

wla, ky lahi ang sked sa discovery asia

[Sinyalan]

Naa man tingali ni sa torrent files... check lang ninyo ug naa muy makit-an unya, post ang link. Salamat.

p.s. naa sa youtube but those were just bits and pieces of the documentary... not full.

[jofox]

What really the purpose of being crucified? Is is the act of anti christ?

Could you share or give some more information not just because we are save by our sins.


P E A C E .........

[pagano]

to save all our sins og mao ni ang pag prepare sa adlaw paghukom sakto bako kaha

[ano_bond]

Christ's Crucifixion
The Persians are believed to have first used crucifixion, but the Romans developed crucifixion into a cruel tortuous slow death intent on inflicting the most pain and suffering. The term "excruciating," meaning great agony or torment, comes from the Latin for "from, or out of, the cross." Roman crucifixion was a painful, public, shameful and notorious death for slaves, insurrectionists, deserting soldiers and the vilest criminals.

Jesus began His crucifixion humiliation (Phil. 2: as a condemned man forced to carry the crossbar or patibulum, weighing from 75 to 125 pounds, from the courtyard where he had been beaten to the public place of execution, outside the city of Jerusalem, on a rocky hill named Golgotha, "the skull." The Romans tore the robe from Jesus' shoulders reopening the partially clotting wounds on His back. A rough hewn wooden crossbar was balanced across His neck and His bloody shoulders and His arms were likely tied outstretched to it. Exhaustion and blood-loss left Jesus too weak to bear the weight and the Romans pulled a bypasser from the crowd to carry the cross (Mark 15:21).

At Golgotha, stood the heavy upright wooden post on which the patibulum would be secured. Jesus was offered gall, a bitter drink of wine mixed with myrrh as a mild analgesic which He tasted and then refused (Matt. 27:34; Mark 15:23; Psa. 69:21). Jesus would not allow His senses to be dulled or His mind to be clouded. He would face and endure the full sufferings of the cross.

Jesus was stripped and thrown to the ground on His back, His arms outstretched along the patibulum and His hands were nailed. The nails were likely tapered iron spikes about 5 to 7 inches long with a squared shaft of 3/8 inch thickness, according to crucified remains found from the same time period. Remains and research indicate the nails were probably driven through the wrists, which the ancients considered a part of the hands and nails in the palms do not support the weight of the body. Spikes driven into the wrists near the median nerve would avoid broken bones (Psa. 34:20) and send radiating shocks of pain up Jesus' arms. Thus nailed, the crossbar and Jesus were lifted up onto the upright post (Num. 21:6-9; Isa. 52:13), His legs were bent at the knees, His feet placed one a top the other and then nailed directly to the front of the post. Searing pain shot up his unnaturally twisted legs.

Above Jesus' head was placed a board or titulus which customarily bore the name and crime of the condemned, but Pilate had written, "Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews" in Hebrew, Latin and Greek (John 19:19-22). Below Jesus Roman soldiers stood guard to make sure those crucified died and that friends did not remove them before death. These soldiers parted Jesus' garments and gambled for His coat (John 19:23-25; Psa. 22:1. A crowd gathered to stare, gape, mock and humiliate Jesus as He hung suffering, the soldiers joined in and so did the two crucified criminals on either side of Him (Luke 23:35-37; Matt. 27:38-44; Psa. 22:12-17). Adding to Jesus' shame were the presence of His mother, a couple of women followers and at least one disciple, John (John 19:25-27).

Death would come slowly as each wound produced searing agony. The weight of His sagging body on the nails sent shooting pain up His arms. The extended position of and weight on Jesus' arms made the use of His chest and thorax muscles to breathe difficult. To take a breath, Jesus had to push his body up with His legs putting his weight on the nail in His feet causing pain to shoot up His legs. The Romans could hasten death by breaking the legs below knees, as they did to the two criminals beside Jesus (John 19:31-33), placing the burden of exhalation on shoulder and arm muscles alone and resulting in exhaustion asphyxia. With every breath Jesus' raw bloody back was torn against the rough wood of the poles, pain would shoot up His arms and legs from the spikes, fatigue would cramp and knot His muscles with relentless, throbbing pain.

After three to six hours on the cross, Jesus' lungs and heart were filling with fluid and His breathing became labored as He was slowly asphyxiating. In deep agony he cried, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken Me?" (Mark 15:34; Psa. 22:1). Jesus' blood loss produced shock and dehydration causing chill shivers to rack His body and a raging thirst. A cry came from His parched lips "I thirst" and soldiers offered Him a vinegar soaked sponge (John 19:28-30). David prophetically described His condition, "I am poured out like water, and all My bones are out of joint; My heart is like wax; it has melted within Me. My strength is dried up like a potsherd, and My tongue clings to My jaws; you have brought Me to the dust of death" (Psa. 22:14-15). In one last gasp, Jesus cried out with a loud voice, "'Father, into Your hands I commit My spirit.' Having said this, He breathed His last" (Luke 23:46).

As the Sabbath was coming at sundown and the Jews did not want the bodies of the men crucified to remain on their crosses, they asked Pilate to hasten their death by breaking their legs. The soldiers broke the legs of the two thieves but not Jesus' legs as they saw He was already dead. But one soldier thrust his spear into Jesus' side and out came blood and water (John 19:31-37; Psa. 34:20). Some medical authorities say this indicates a ruptured heart.

Centuries later some skeptics questioned whether Jesus really died on the cross. Some have charged Jesus only swooned and revived later falsely claiming to have resurrected from the dead. There was no doubt among His disciples nor among the hostile Roman soldiers charged with Jesus' execution that He had died (Luke 23:47-49; John 19:31-35; Mark 15:44-45). Even Jesus' greatest enemies, the Jewish leaders acknowledged Jesus death asking Pilate for a guard on Jesus' tomb and making it sure themselves (Matt. 27:62-66). All had witnessed Jesus' humiliation, suffering and death and none suggested He had survived the Roman scourging and crucifixion that took His life.

Why Was Jesus Crucified?
All of us face death, but Jesus' death was not a peaceful passing in His sleep, but a violent, cruel and agonizing death. Why was Jesus crucified? Jesus explained, "When you lift up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He" (John 8:2 and "And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all peoples to myself" (John 12:32). Jesus' crucifixion revealed His identity as the Son of God and draws people to Him by demonstrating the depth of God's love. Jesus said, "Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends" (John 15:13). Paul explained, "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life" (Rom. 5:8-10).