MERGED: Gay Marriage in the Philippines

[Dustashed]

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The reason why people dont agree with SSM is Based on Theist Point of View. As what I have said earlier, Most people who run the state goes to church so mao na. And also, it doesnt mean nga abi kay State law na dili pwedi i base or mu refer sa Religious teachings ang state.

Time and Time again na Prove na nga ang teachings embraced by the Theist if followed will make the world much better. And time and time again na prove nasad natu nga kana imung so-called Mans Logical Thinking if followed puro kadaot ray mahiaguman sa kalibutan.

say for example premarital S*EX and Homosexuality, tungod sa so-called logic ok ra bisag kinsay ka Jer-jer bisag puro laki AS LONG AS HAPPY KA. nya unsay nahitabo? kaayuhan bay nahatag sa kalibutan? AIDS nuon naa... mao nay saktong Logic?

Atik atik sad ug Logic bisag Biga ra jud nay rason...

Too many logical fallacies too little time. I'll prep for work, be back tonight to dissect this

[amingb]

Care to elaborate on that? Why is there "no logical nor valid argument in twisting the word just to accommodate gay's lustful desire"? nganu wala man?.. if you can't state the reason then it is just another form of



A variation of Proof by assertion
Proof by assertion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mga Pervert man gud monga tawo, mangita mo ug Issue that is not Relevant to the Rule ...

[SioDenz]

And what of the individuals right in the pursuit of happiness and the freedom to choose the person to love? Again it boils down to how we view homosexuals, if we view them as equals then this would not be a problem as they would be afforded the same rights as heterosexual couples have.

Offtopic/Sidenote: No recent release of one piece. Lingaw na nuon ang bleach ug ang Naruto.. too abd wala na HunterxHunter na bago hasta Claymore na manga

And If Homos view other people as Equal they should Not even think of forcing other people to Twist their belief. They are respected as a man and as a woman, They were born as a man and a woman in first place and NOBODY even denied their right based on their original Gender. And NOW they want majority of the people to abandon their belief so that they can Pursue their OWN Happiness. They have given all the rights same as normal Man and Woman and Now They want More. And your preaching about equality - WOW.

You should Learn some values from NARUTO manga that youve read, the meaning of Life is all About Protecting the Village and its People and the Future generation and NOT your OWN glory or Even Happiness.

[lodyl]

And what of the individuals right in the pursuit of happiness and the freedom to choose the person to love? Again it boils down to how we view homosexuals, if we view them as equals then this would not be a problem as they would be afforded the same rights as heterosexual couples have.

Offtopic/Sidenote: No recent release of one piece. Lingaw na nuon ang bleach ug ang Naruto.. too abd wala na HunterxHunter na bago hasta Claymore na manga

Wala man guro nagpugong ninyo nga laki or samang bayot/tomboy ang inyohang higugmaon.. So what, inyoha mana life so inyoha pud na... Kung ganahan mo pakasal mong parehang laki/bayi, aw, inyoha gihapon na, wala baya moputol ug ulo ninyo if magpakasal mo... pero, if inyohang pugson ang kadaghanan nga "dawaton ang inyohang kasal" or "magpakasal mo diri sa Pinas", aw, kana, lahi napud na.... bahala ug mag chulaakay mo diha sa SM malls... Pero ayaw lang pud mo ug kahibulong if either masawayan mo or batuon ba kaha mo....

[lodyl]

And If Homos view other people as Equal they should Not even think of forcing other people to Twist their belief. They are respected as a man and as a woman, They were born as a man and a woman in first place and NOBODY even denied their right based on their original Gender. And NOW they want majority of the people to abandon their belief so that they can Pursue their OWN Happiness. They have given all the rights same as normal Man and Woman and Now They want More. And your preaching about equality - WOW.

You should Learn some values from NARUTO manga that youve read, the meaning of Life is all About Protecting the Village and its People and the Future generation and NOT your OWN glory or Even Happiness.

I second the motion bai... feeling ani nila mura sila ug si Orochimaru nga bayot kay nangidnap ni Sasuke... bwahahahahahahaha.......

[SioDenz]

I second the motion bai... feeling ani nila mura sila ug si Orochimaru nga bayot kay nangidnap ni Sasuke... bwahahahahahahaha.......

OT: Sasuke nga EMO...naabot nata ug Naruto ani paksit tas Mods run...

[Axelremadeyo]

Ever heard of separation of church and state?

yes of course i have heard but you know the situation here in the philippines, the churches voice and opinions are always being considered by most if not all our politicians.

[3nZ0y]

And If Homos view other people as Equal they should Not even think of forcing other people to Twist their belief. They are respected as a man and as a woman, They were born as a man and a woman in first place and NOBODY even denied their right based on their original Gender.

Do not confuse gender with ***, my friend. This might help:

WHO | What do we mean by "***" and "gender"?

And NOW they want majority of the people to abandon their belief so that they can Pursue their OWN Happiness. They have given all the rights same as normal Man and Woman and Now They want More. And your preaching about equality - WOW.

I am not sure which part of the previous posts that were not clear or comprehensible on this aspect. Kapila na man intawon ta nagtuyok-tuyok ani ui. Nobody [as far as I can recall] posted: twist your belief and become homosexuals. or abandon your belief to make us happy There is just one word nga nagtuyok-tuyok and yet wala pa jud gihapon masabti: EQUALITY

Naay right ang boy/ girl but ngano wala man ang bayot/ tomboy? gender equality ba na para ninyo?
Before, women are respected but wala sila right mo-vote, wala silay right sa education. Did they forced the people to change their belief? No, they just asked for gender equality. You are lucky that women are already empowered nowadays.
Back when inter-racial relationship was not permitted. Did they ask the white to marry only the blacks? No, they just want their personal preference to be respected.

See the pattern? Respect and equality. Asay lisod sabton?

Again, I hope this is clear enough:
If you are against same *** couples, then by all means, do not get into same s3x relationship.
But please, let those who want to exercise their rights.

Pangunahan ko na lang, moingon na sad mo, pag-uyab2 mo diha, pag PDA mo diha, pag-igat igat mo diha wala mi labot. But ngano hilabtan man mi ninyo, etc...

Again, walay nanghilabot sa inyong religion. [Wala'y makausab sa traditions/practice sa usa ka religion kundi the very people who are running it] If you are a Roman Catholic, even if ma-legalize ni nga bill, dako ang chance nga dili gihapon sila mokasal og same s3x couples. Same goes with other denominations. The debate is far from being religious. It more of legal aspects.

Wala man guro nagpugong ninyo nga laki or samang bayot/tomboy ang inyohang higugmaon.. So what, inyoha mana life so inyoha pud na... Kung ganahan mo pakasal mong parehang laki/bayi, aw, inyoha gihapon na, wala baya moputol ug ulo ninyo if magpakasal mo... pero, if inyohang pugson ang kadaghanan nga "dawaton ang inyohang kasal" or "magpakasal mo diri sa Pinas", aw, kana, lahi napud na.... bahala ug mag chulaakay mo diha sa SM malls... Pero ayaw lang pud mo ug kahibulong if either masawayan mo or batuon ba kaha mo....

Wala naghangyo ninyo nga inyong dawaton ilang kasal. Kung di mo ganahan, by all means feel free to hate them for the rest of your lives. But if magpakasal sila sa Pinas, that is their personal choice ug wala na moy labot ana. If ganahan manglibak ang mga tawo, then wala na sad mi mahimo ana.

The purpose of the bill is simple: For the state to honor the marriage between same s3x couples and provide the same benefits that heterosexual married couple enjoy.

Asa man nga part diha ang nag-ingon nga ilabay inyong personal/religious belief para sa mga homosexuals?

yes of course i have heard but you know the situation here in the philippines, the churches voice and opinions are always being considered by most if not all our politicians.

Now, that is the challenge. The problem with some churches/ religion kay i-twist man nila ang facts gud usahay. Tan-awon ta lang asa ni ang kapaingnan ani.

[Axelremadeyo]

mao lagi na, kay naa man gyud baruganan ang church gyud. ila voice and opinion on the subject matter is really considered man.bisan pa twisted ang logic ana , ang church leadership always have to make a stand base ra pud sa hubad sa doctrina.

[high_heels]

The gays have spoken!!! and the straight men and women have also spoken! So let's agree to disagree....still discussing it here won't convince us. So LGBT's, go to the senate!!! go to the congress!!! Adto mo pag rally!!

Then panguyabi ang mga churches and all other religious sector sa Pilipinas para ma convince ninyo sila sa inyong gusto!

Sige behh....start na! now nah!!! Rally na mo!! Murag politiko ba panguyabi ang group leaders para mo sunod ang publico sa inyong mga gusto....I CHALLENGE YOU TO DO THAT! Because obviously, ni taas nalang ni nga thread sige mo ug insist wala gihapon moy positive nga nabuhat but sige ra post ug pics and vids nga kataw-anan!

Sige lang mo paghot diri...so far wa gyuy ni ingon ninyo nga...."sige nalang oi, sugot nalang mi!" hahahahahah......