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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nZ0y View Post
    Gidid-an man gud sila sa Ginoo sa pagkaon sa fruit of knowledge. Unya free will na nuon?
    Mao gani gi did-an kay naay FreeWill, Wa na unta hatagi ug rules if ang Ginoo pay magbuot tanan nilang buhat. If naay consequence WALA na nagpasabot nga wa kay free will - Mao gani hatagan kag Consequencies kay meaning pwedi ka mubuhat anang mga butanga.


    Quote Originally Posted by 3nZ0y View Post
    Duwa-duwa siya for me kay naay free will unya dapat iyaha gihapong pagbuot matuman.
    Ug iya pang pagbuot matuman nganu muhatag man tawn siya ug Condition? nganu mu ingun man siya nga if mubuhat ka ani mao ni pwedi mahitabo. Nganu muhatag man ug balaod if ang tawo wala pay freewill to do what he want to do? unsa diay pagsabot nimu anang word na Free Will bro kay murag simyat man imu reasoning.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3nZ0y View Post
    If di siya ganahan mokuyog, di ka kapugos mao na ang free will. But to say nga, you will suffer grave consequences if dili ka mokuyog. Sakto na?
    Based ani imung statement, wa ka nga question sa Free Will, imu gi kwestion ang Ginoo nganu nihatag ug Consequencies.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3nZ0y View Post
    Free will but dapat iyaha gihapong gusto matuman? Unsay sense?
    Ex: Pwede ka motuo nako o dili. But akong gusto motuo ka. So, if di ka motuo sa impyerno ka puniton.
    Apas: Unya naa pa jud akong anghel sauna nga si Satanas akong gipasagdan nga motintal ninyo. But naa moy free will, naay hell, naay temptation.
    Unsa gud tawn ang Sense if muhatag kag kagawasan sa isa ka tawo to whatever he wants nya di ka muhatag ug Consequencies? unsay pulos sa free will if ang sanputanan isa ra? unsay pulos sa rules if ang ending isa ra?

    If naay Choice naa juy lain lain nga outcome kay di nah na matawag nga choice if ISA ra ang Ending.

    Example:
    Student-->Mu eskwela-->magtuon-->makapasar sa exams--> maka graduate.
    Student-->Di Mu eskwela-->Di magtuon-->Di makapasar sa exams--> Di maka graduate.
    =Mao nay sense, naay choice naay consequencies in every choice.

    Ang imu gusto is:
    Student-->Mu eskwela-->magtuon-->makapasar sa exams--> maka graduate.
    Student-->Di Mu eskwela-->Di magtuon-->Di makapasar sa exams-->maka graduate lang ghapon.
    =Unsay sense ana? Unsay Pulos sa paghimu ug rules sa eskwelahan if same ra an outcome? Maypa way conditions.

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    Default Re: Does God take a vacation?

    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    Ug iya pang pagbuot matuman nganu muhatag man tawn siya ug Condition? nganu mu ingun man siya nga if mubuhat ka ani mao ni pwedi mahitabo. Nganu muhatag man ug balaod if ang tawo wala pay freewill to do what he want to do? unsa diay pagsabot nimu anang word na Free Will bro kay murag simyat man imu reasoning.
    So we can be on the same page, unsa man daw na ang free will?

  3. #153

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    share lang ko--naa tay freewill unsa atong pilion aning duha.

    What is free will?

    by Matt Slick

    Free will is the ability to make choices. There are debates as to what extent this free will is to be understood as it relates to people. There are two main views: compatibilism and libertarianism.

    The compatibilist view is the position that a person's freedom is restricted by his nature as is described in Scripture. In other words, he can only choose what his nature (sinful or regenerate) will allow him to choose. Therefore, such verses as 1 Cor. 2:14; Rom. 3:10-12; Rom. 6:14-20 are used to demonstrate that, for example, the unbeliever is incapable of choosing God of his own free will.

    Libertarian free will says that the person's will is not restricted by his sinful nature and that he is still able to choose or accept God freely. Verses used to support this view are John 3:16 and 3:36. Two subdivisions of libertarian free will would be "open absolute free will" which says that man's choices are not knowable by God until they occur, and "non-open absolute free will" which would state that God can know man's choices but he cannot determine them.

    The biblical position is compatibilism. Since the Bible clearly teaches us that the unbeliever is restricted to making sinful choices (1 Cor. 2:14; Rom. 3:10-12; Rom. 6:14-20) then we must conclude that anyone who believes in God (John 3:16; 3:36) does so because God has granted that he believe (Phil. 1:29), has caused him to be born again (1 Pet. 1:3), and chose him for salvation (2 Thess. 2:13).

    All the cults and false religious systems teach the libertarian view of free will that salvation and spiritual understanding are completely within the grasp of sinners (in spite of their enslavement to and deadness in sin). For them, salvation would be totally up to the ability of the individual to make such a choice.

  4. #154

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    Quote Originally Posted by heroimba View Post
    sige bai kay makaluma mn ghapun imung tinuhuan bisan sa balita sa Vatican wa gani wa ka khibaw..So tuara imung gipangita The Vatican claims Darwin's theory of evolution is compatible with Christianity - Telegraph tuara pa o Catholic Church and evolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    And about sa remains ni Jesus Christ..you can watch this documentary The Lost Tomb of Jesus by James Cameron Part 1of 12 - YouTube Until now still on debate pani sya kay you know na naay mga dli kadawat..
    bai the article only shows respect for Darwin's theory since early Catholic church had been hostile and judgemental on Darwin's theory.the Vatican only states that that shouldn't be the case..
    Evolution is undeniable and is very visible at present but not in the sense that we came from fish or non-living animal perhaps..or chimpz..'cause you see Darwin's theory about evolution is a very broad topic..
    which was confirmed by the early Christian philosophers but what was unacceptable is that
    He proposed that humans were also a product of evolution.and besides read the article again bai, it doesnt show even a single bit of confirmation from the Vatican that we undeed came from fish,chimpz or worse a non living organism. the article only shows that vatican refuses to continue the fude between church and followers andthat Darwin was making a point regarding evolution..
    besides progress in society is considered evolution isn't it?people have evolved from mindset to another
    evolution is good bai, just don't mess with something that you haven't and fully understood yet..
    just because fragments of evolution are present on other things it doesnt mean that
    everything evolves. even Darwin didn't conclude that his theory was fully realized,hence it was called theory in the first place..Darwin's theory only expresses that an Intelligent creator must be responsible with the complexities...i took the liberty of posting something from the article.....

    "Ahead of a papal-backed conference next month marking the 150th anniversary of Darwin's On the Origin of Species, the Vatican is also set to play down the idea of Intelligent Design, which argues a "higher power" must be responsible for the complexities of life."


    regarding Jesus' body being found..
    *tell me, would you die for something you know that is a lie? because Jesus diciples did..and 500 other men and women who professed that Jesus has indeed risen and they saw Him with their bare eyes?
    *and why would Jesus' diciples suddenly change from cowards to saints?
    when at the crucifixion of Jesus they are even nowhere to be found, what changed them?
    why would they change after the "resurrection"? why didn't they change while the roman soldiers were crucifying Jesus?
    *Have Jesus' diciples gone mad?hallucinating about a resurrected Jesus?
    where in psychiatry and psychology can you find that 2 or more people can share the same hallucination...
    and besides crazy people cannot Love selflessly and most certainly have issues with consistency?

    and again, your claim has not been proven yet, so your proof is not valid.
    again it falls under the speculation section or worse, Hoax category.
    Last edited by noy; 08-23-2012 at 04:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nZ0y View Post
    So we can be on the same page, unsa man daw na ang free will?
    share lang ko bai ha,

    free will is the ability to choose freely..ana ra jud.
    rules aren't created to undo freewill but it merely serves as a guide
    and help in making the right choices...
    'cause in every choice that we make,there are corresponding after effects.
    so some of us maka ingun ta nga wala ra gihapuy gamit ang freewill...kay di man gihapun ta kabuhat sa atong gusto..
    well that's another story cause that's being irresponsible.

    one can choose to be great and at the same time has all the power to be foolish if he wills it.

    can you consider a rich kid who can do everything,can do drugs,can throw his life by partying all the time..
    a free man? 'cause he can actually do everything,even the things that can do no good.

    that kid is not even near to be being truly free..as He is enslaved by his false freedom which would lead to addiciton.

    a man that is truly free is not a man who can do all the things he like, but rather the man who can do what he should.
    Last edited by noy; 08-23-2012 at 04:47 PM.

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    Default Re: Does God take a vacation?

    We stole the Eagle from the Air Force,
    The Anchor from the Navy,
    The Rope from the Army,
    And on the seventh day when God rested,
    We overrun His perimeter and stole the Globe
    And have running the show ever since.
    United States Marines....

    God didn't take vacation but He rest.



  7. #157

    Default Re: Does God take a vacation?

    God took a rest (Genesis 2:2), a more accurate word; but the essence of a vacation or a holiday is somehow "quite" the same, rest from work but not rest from doing what is good...

    This is an example for Bible-believing Christians..

    Disclaimer: This are all my personal opinion.

  8. #158

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    God doesn't take a vacation anyway, He is always there for us. Eventhough we can't see him but in our faith, we trust in him. God is a powerful God, We must have a good faith in him and dont make any doubt about the invisibility of God as the saying goes "there's always a perfect time for everything"

  9. #159

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    Quote Originally Posted by isturyaje View Post
    Are you sure nga puro ra taga Egypt and Jerusalem naka butang sa Bibliya? How about the Amalekites? The Amorites? The Moabites? The Canaanites? The Jebusites? The Assyrians in Nineveh? The Chaldeans? Nebuchadnezzar King of Babylon is in the Bible. I could go forever brod enumerating different races in the Bible. These were not Egyptians nor were from Jerusalem. These are different races and they are in the Bible. So klaroha usa brod og puros raba gyud taga Egypt or from Jerusalem ang naka butang sa Bibliya. And yes GOD wants us to be united under HIM. If we all choose to unite under HIM then ma unite ta under HIM. Kita raman mga tawo dili gusto magka united. Others even chose to deny the very GOD that created them so please don't blame GOD why the disunity. Simple ra gyud kaau and equation. If one wants unity under HIM then choose HIM. Makes sense noh?
    sige daw brad, i-enumerate daw tanan, wala tika gibinuangan bro ha, gs2 lang jud ko makahibaw since ni offer man jud ka

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    @ MOONGLOW ...

    You are saying as if prayer is like a child asking for a candy
    "unsay gi ampo nimo na wala pa nimo nakuha?"
    Because you are whining and bitching that your prayers were never heard nor answered . Nagbakasyon man kaha ang Ginoo , someone may answer it for , pamasin diay ba.

    No, I do not pray like that
    but that is what happens
    when most people pray
    to hope for something good
    Then what does it have to do when you say that GOD is on VACATION ? YOu even said " MOST " like you really knew most THEIST do it.

    People pray for a good job
    even pray to make through a visa application
    those are impotent hopes, prayers they call them
    but no, I do not pray like that
    prayers like that are impotent and lame
    So why change tones now ? I thought all PRAYERS are something like asking for a FAVOR , WISH , PETITION etc and if it is not given , answered nor heard .... GOD is on VACATION ? May pod ka da ... you knew if GOD hears or not.
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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