Let's Be Honest(Bible based Religion).

[defender_1611]

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hahaha. sukdon jud ko nimo funny man ka bro. set side lang sa na nato atong garbo bro ha. di man ni contest kong kinay mas taas og knowledge about sa history sa bible.

ang ato ani bro kay naa may mga scholars nga gahatag og critique ani so adto ta dagan nila or adto ta kuha og references. Then matud nila nga walay identical nga manuscripts. pasabot dunay mga phrases didto or words nga nagka lahi lahi.

para di ka mawala sa topic bro mas maayo sigoro nga imo sa basahon ang first post nako.

ayaw kabalaka bro kay wala ko mawala......naka subay ra ko.....importante man gud na ato sang subayon ang history sa bible before ta mo rebutal ug muhatag sa atong questions....importante na ato sa subayon ang history kay naa man diha ga ugat tanan....so natubag naman tika bro....pwede ako na pod ang mangutana?

[Mandirigma]

Sayop na siya bro....mangutana ka nako nganu man? kay tungod wala siya kahibaw kung unsa na klase na greek language ang gigamit kaniadto.....mao ra na akong stand......kung kahibaw pa na siya na kung unsa to na klaseha na greek ang gigamit kaniadto prior sa translation sa King James Bible kanang mga bersikulo na iyang mga gipang mention matubag ra na ug ma explain na nganu in.ani nganu ing.ana.

mao ba...

paki refute lng ko ani...

In the last six verses of Revelation, Erasmus had no Greek manuscript (=MS) (he only used half a dozen, very late MSS for the whole New Testament any way). He was therefore forced to ?back-translate? the Latin into Greek and by so doing he created seventeen variants which have never been found in any other Greek MS of Revelation! He merely guessed at what the Greek might have been.

AND also this...

1 John 5:7-8, Erasmus followed the majority of MSS in reading ?there are three witnesses in heaven, the Spirit and the water and the blood.? However, there was an uproar in some Roman Catholic circles because his text did not read ?there are three witnesses in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit.? Erasmus said that he did not put that in the text because he found no Greek MSS which had that reading. This implicit challenge?viz., that if he found such a reading in any Greek MS, he would put it in his text?did not go unnoticed. In 1520, a scribe at Oxford named Roy made such a Greek MS (codex 61, now in Dublin). Erasmus? third edition had the second reading because such a Greek MS was ?made to order? to fill the challenge! To date, only a handful of Greek MSS have been discovered which have the Trinitarian formula in 1 John 5:7-8, though none of them is demonstrably earlier than the sixteenth century.


pangutana lang kong na kay wa masabtan.

[Mandirigma]

ayaw kabalaka bro kay wala ko mawala......naka subay ra ko.....importante man gud na ato sang subayon ang history sa bible before ta mo rebutal ug muhatag sa atong questions....importante na ato sa subayon ang history kay naa man diha ga ugat tanan....so natubag naman tika bro....pwede ako na pod ang mangutana?

irrelevant na na bro. wa pa nato ma exhaust ang topic bro and besides you havent refuted the claim nga ako gi link, igo ra ka ni ingon nga "sayop na siya bro" that's not a refutation, assumption ra na bro not a refutation.

[akosabni]

kung binisaya pa ni ... taga.i mi sa pinaka puno nga sustansiya nga pandesal

[defender_1611]

mao ba...

paki refute lng ko ani...

In the last six verses of Revelation, Erasmus had no Greek manuscript (=MS) (he only used half a dozen, very late MSS for the whole New Testament any way). He was therefore forced to ?back-translate? the Latin into Greek and by so doing he created seventeen variants which have never been found in any other Greek MS of Revelation! He merely guessed at what the Greek might have been.

AND also this...

1 John 5:7-8, Erasmus followed the majority of MSS in reading ?there are three witnesses in heaven, the Spirit and the water and the blood.? However, there was an uproar in some Roman Catholic circles because his text did not read ?there are three witnesses in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit.? Erasmus said that he did not put that in the text because he found no Greek MSS which had that reading. This implicit challenge?viz., that if he found such a reading in any Greek MS, he would put it in his text?did not go unnoticed. In 1520, a scribe at Oxford named Roy made such a Greek MS (codex 61, now in Dublin). Erasmus? third edition had the second reading because such a Greek MS was ?made to order? to fill the challenge! To date, only a handful of Greek MSS have been discovered which have the Trinitarian formula in 1 John 5:7-8, though none of them is demonstrably earlier than the sixteenth century.

ok.....did he know bah na asa gikan ug unsa na manuscript gikan ang King James Bible? kay na notice nako sa iyang mga gipang sulti na wala jud siya mag mention ug specific name sa manuscript.....all he did is manuscript, manuscript blah blah......did he already prove na wala ba juy mss si erasmus? questionable ang iyang stand bro.

[Mandirigma]

ok.....did he know bah na asa gikan ug unsa na manuscript gikan ang King James Bible? kay na notice nako sa iyang mga gipang sulti na wala jud siya mag mention ug specific name sa manuscript.....all he did is manuscript, manuscript blah blah......did he already prove na wala ba juy mss si erasmus? questionable ang iyang stand bro.

lol.

di man ni refutation bro. palihug lang ko og refute. basaha og balik.

[defender_1611]

irrelevant na na bro. wa pa nato ma exhaust ang topic bro and besides you havent refuted the claim nga ako gi link, igo ra ka ni ingon nga "sayop na siya bro" that's not a refutation, assumption ra na bro not a refutation.

sayop man gyud siya bro kay tungod daghan mga instances ang wala niya mahibaw.e.......wala man gani siya kahibaw sa mga names sa mga manuscripts....how much more sa language na gigamit prior sa translation sa King James Bible.

[defender_1611]

God proclaims that His words are true (John 17:17) and without error (Psalm 119:140). He declares that His words are infallible proofs of truth (Acts 1:3). He claims to have given us the scriptures by holy and divine inspiration (2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Pet. 2:21). And the Lord of Hosts states that He will keep and preserve His words longer then the existence of either heaven or earth (Psalm 12:6-7; Matt. 5:18; 24:35). In fact, God says they are?incorruptible?(1 Pet. 1:23).

[Mandirigma]

sayop man gyud siya bro kay tungod daghan mga instances ang wala niya mahibaw.e.......wala man gani siya kahibaw sa mga names sa mga manuscripts....how much more sa language na gigamit prior sa translation sa King James Bible.

bro its in bible.org kong ga toon ka no need for him to mention those texts or MSS. kay ang mga scholars ani kabalo na kong unsa nga mga MSS ang gigamit.

logical fallacy man ni imo gibuhat bro.

now i can sense nga di pa ka andam mo refute, sige bro maghuwat ko ha, as of now basaha sa og balik then if you are ready ihatag lang nya ang refutation.

gabii naman gud sayo pa ko mata ugma.

[Mandirigma]

God proclaims that His words are true (John 17:17) and without error (Psalm 119:140). He declares that His words are infallible proofs of truth (Acts 1:3). He claims to have given us the scriptures by holy and divine inspiration (2 Tim. 3:16; 2 Pet. 2:21). And the Lord of Hosts states that He will keep and preserve His words longer then the existence of either heaven or earth (Psalm 12:6-7; Matt. 5:18; 24:35). In fact, God says they are?incorruptible?(1 Pet. 1:23).

gawali naka bro.

atong issue is ang variants nga mss og ang obang mga textual differences inside sa mss.