If Operation Barbarossa wasn't launched, Would've Nazi Germany won WWII?

[machinecult]

^ @æRLO That's f*cked up. I like that.
That's just like what MacArthur said huh, "Give me a regiment of Filipino soldiers and I will conquer the world."? Mac must be rolling in his grave if he can see us today.

P.S.
The Nazis are on the Moon.
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[bleedingboi]

^I did the scenario with HoI3 (Hearts of Iron 3), it comes out with varying outcomes.

I like the HoI franchise specifically because you can control the Philippines. I started the game at around 1938 and by 1942 the Philippines repelled the Japanese onslaught. By 1944 The Philippines was liberating Southeast Asia and several Chinese cities with the help of Americans, lol. The Philippines occupied the southern part of Japan and Tokyo by early 1945, the war in Europe was still raging so I sent several Filipino divisions through the Suez Canal to hit the underbelly of the Nazis (the Soviets and Germans, started their war later, in 1945). Unrealistic, but I enjoyed the game's detail into gameplay. It was funny thinking about Filipino regulars locked in battle with crack SS. And Filipino Armor entering cities like Belgrade, Milan and Vienna (or even other Asian cities for the matter).

(in this game the Allies invaded southern Italy in 1943 but failed to breakthrough, N.Africa saw the same major developments, the Allies landed in Normandy made it across the lowlands, only to be beaten back to France--and they came into stalemate afterwards. The Eastern front was strange because the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact only broke when the Filipinos landed in Greece--and it was the Soviets who broke it. I actually wanted to declare war on those land-grabbing ruskies.)

Where ca nwe purchase this? Download?

[æRLO]

Where ca nwe purchase this? Download?

It's been out since 2009. I bought my copy, and I don't know where they would still sell this game...maybe an original copy from amazon for about $20. I wouldn't be surprised if it's out in p2p sharing. It probably is.

BTW the endgame for that scenario was...(Philippines allied with the U.S. and U.K., not USSR)

1945 - Philippines occupied Tokyo, then Kyoto (Japanese interim capital after Tokyo) Japan surrenders. Philippines occupies Taiwan, Most of the Chinese coast, A large part of Indochina and Siam, and the Malayas. (Annexed all of them, made a puppet states=Indonesia and Malaysia, made them very small.)
Late 1945 - Sent 2 Filipino Army Corps and 2 Air wings into Suez, had a big battle with Italians and Germans. Occupied Northern Italy (annexed), the Balkans (annexed), and parts of USSR (which the Germans had occupied after their counter-offensive) annexed.
1946-Entered Germany then Berlin (epic battle ensues) occupation of German regions (everything south of Berlin) Germany's military=no more air force, no more Navy, 4 militia Divisions left defending Cologne and Hamburg (new capital)...surrenders shortly. Annexed most of Germany (really deteriorated my relations with Britain and USA, but ang pinaka affected ang Soviets.heheh )
1947-Philippines, Britain and U.S. create throttle the remaining Italian Army (U.S. and Britain from the South Philippines from the North)
1947-War ends, Philippines is a colonial, military and economic/industrial (after annexing industrial regions) power.

[moy1moy1]

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And by that we made our colonies eat balut and cook spaghetti ala banana ketchup.

[bleedingboi]

1947-War ends, Philippines is a colonial, military and economic/industrial (after annexing industrial regions) power.

Then this stupid revolution happened, dictator ousted, and Cory became President..... Goodbye Progress!

[chairmankaga]

The Allied would still win(IMO). They'll bomb the Sh*t out of Nazi Germany.

[bleedingboi]

The Allied would still win(IMO). They'll bomb the Sh*t out of Nazi Germany.

They can win, but could be like prancing on the edge of a cliff. German defenses were formidable. If anyone can remember Operation Market Garden?.

[Bears Grill]

Even if Nazi Germany didn't do this or did that, I think WWII boiled down to whichever side came up with the H-bomb.

My question is: Would you have preferred the Axis powers winning the war? How would the world look like?

[bleedingboi]

Even if Nazi Germany didn't do this or did that, I think WWII boiled down to whichever side came up with the H-bomb.

My question is: Would you have preferred the Axis powers winning the war? How would the world look like?

Nice point. But Germany did not have enough H-bomb ( If they really had that amount of Nukes) to destroy every strategic Allied City.

[moy1moy1]

Even if Nazi Germany didn't do this or did that, I think WWII boiled down to whichever side came up with the H-bomb.

My question is: Would you have preferred the Axis powers winning the war? How would the world look like?

Their would be less (slave force) or no (Annihilated) Asians left save the Japanese (which I bet will be annihilated gyapun kai dili Aryan race), Germans and Italians ruled Europe and USA would be in constant war. USSR could go home to Siberia and freeze to death. Cuba could occupy most of Central and South America and Italy/Germany could have gain all of Africa's oil while in constant battle with the Islamic states. Negros could be part of the slaveforce too.