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  1. #1671

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokiloo View Post
    you mean naa result inyung 2000 year old antique? adam and eve, genesis? unsa evidence? same ra pud kung kinsa ang, let's say defendant, and ang iyang witness or alibi siya ra sab ghapon?
    of course kay klaro man account sa genesis nga walay contradiction! morelate sad sa 4 basic questions of origin, meaning, morality and destiny.

    mas maminaw pa diay ka on stories like these:
    -One Hindu creation story tells of the god Vishnu asleep within the coils of a huge cobra afloat on a vast ocean of darkness and nothingness.
    -The Rig Veda tells of a primal being, Purusha, with a thousand eyes, feet and hands. This being encompasses all places and all life. Purusha became bored and split himself to create the world. From Purusha's dividing of himself came all of the elements, the gods, men and all the myriad forms of life. All the world is therefore a part of this original being.

    So imong pasabot pud the Pyramids off Giza veeery old antique so mysterious nga wa pa kaayo ma tugkad sa science until naa solid facts to support it, for now it's being built by aliens?
    Wala man tingali nag ingon ang bible that it was built by aliens. Murag taw ra jud ang nagtukod ana part during the time of the exodus. When the children of Israel was in bondage sa Egypt. Read the exodus para dili ka malipat nga alien ang nagtukod ana.

  2. #1672

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Murag bata nga wala gihatagi ug kendi

    Science is a process that ignores you--it will disregard your WANTS--it will just continue being the tool it is until more and more data is gathered to come up with a better model and explanation of processes, a slow process indeed, but bear in mind that the processes being found out are indeed much better models than earlier ones, even if incomplete.

    Mao nga klaro dyud nga dili bagay ang scientific method sa imo, kay abi nimo magic ang science nga in one snap of a finger naa na dayon ang imong answers.

    -RODION
    agree jud kaau ko sa imu gisulti boss regarding process, but why conclude that there's no God? if wala paman diay ta
    maka tuhop sa fullness of everything?
    and you're right, it takes a lot of patience to make such discoveries..
    and patience is one of the virtues and teachings of the bible.

  3. #1673

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    @heliopause
    why do you try to complicate bringing other versions when I don't even go by it that pretty much shows how you deal with discussions gyud.

    and what do you mean wala'y contradiction nga kamo raman pud muingon wala'y contradiction kay well supported man kaayo na nga claim from that very book supported by, as usual, the very same book.

    and ako pasabot is kay mas antique inyuhang libro as same like the pyramids and science is just new mura ug seniority mas maminaw ka sa kara-an kasya bago?

    Let me ask you mutu-o gihapon ka that the earth is flat and its the center of the universe? and the rainbow is god's message that he won't destroy the world with a flood and not some spectral refraction of light?
    Last edited by mokiloo; 07-31-2012 at 07:28 PM.

  4. #1674

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    Quote Originally Posted by bearish View Post
    how about if we will just focus on our daily livelihood? unless if that is your livelihood.

    if he is there, let him be there, if he is not there, we don't care. the most important thing in life for me is to be of help to people close to you and even those far from you in anything you can. that's what matters to me. arguing about his existence is a waste of time. there are a lot of questions than answers.
    nice man pud nang mag focus sa livelihood bai,and the things that we can grasp..
    but muabut jud ang panahon nga we want something more than the usual.
    like sweldo..wou would always want a raise, maski dako naka ug swekdo and secured na ka, you would always look for a greener pasture..so click na kaau imu business so magdungag napud kag branch...so maski unsa pay imung buhaton...
    you will never be satisfied...kay ingun pa nila there's no other way but up...padako ug pa asenso jud atong goel kanunay...
    but the problem is, when are we going to stop?when we are satisfied of course...but ang question is?when does satisfaction comes? kung padatuay...usa sa mga proof nga tao di makuntento kay there's another branch of SM inspite sa maski usa ka SM pa lang...sulbad na tanang problema maski pag pila ka generation sa inyo pamilya...kung sa mga tao pud ta...grabe kaau ta ka frustrated when people change,left or we call it emotional attachment, kay ang tao...wanted good things to last forever.. ari pud tas bisyo...magsugod ra na sa curious2x..daun mag tilaw2x hangtud ma addict na...kay ang tao whether makaayo man or dili...kinahanglan mu progess...and sa ako lang experience...man can never be satisfied without God.
    there's is this longing in us that we try to fill with fortune and fame,knowledge,pride,people..but all we need is God.
    ingun pa sa bible nga seek first the kingdon of God and all these things shall be added unto you...
    sometimes we start at the wrong starting points that's why we always end up running in circles..
    bro don't get me wrong ha, this is my perspective.this is about my faith in God.
    whatever your stand is, you have my full respect.

  5. #1675

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    Quote Originally Posted by mokiloo View Post
    @heliopause
    why do you try to complicate bringing other versions when I don't even go by it that pretty much shows how you deal with discussions gyud.

    and what do you mean wala'y contradiction nga kamo raman pud muingon wala'y contradiction kay well supported man kaayo na nga claim from that very book supported by, as usual, the very same book.

    and ako pasabot is kay mas antique inyuhang libro as same like the pyramids and science is just new mura ug seniority mas maminaw ka sa kara-an kasya bago?

    Let me ask you mutu-o gihapon ka that the earth is flat and its the center of the universe? and the rainbow is god's message that he won't destroy the world with a flood and not some spectral refraction of light?
    hello part, ai kalain ha istorya2 ra gud ning atua, walang personalan. makalingaw man gud ni usahay atong mga weird nga ideas, ehehe. but sorry if sometimes motipas ko.

    dili man pasabot nga tungod kay bago ang science, sakto nalang jud tanan niyang theory or tungod kay karaan ang bible, wala nalang lugar ang science. it should be balance. and asa to mas importante like god's existence of course i weigh mas bug at ang word of god.

    Wala manko kaabot ana nga concept part that the earth is flat. akong namat-an pag kinder nako gipa drawing mi ug earth kay circle na jud sya. Regarding sa rainbow as a symbol of god's promise, God used the rainbow as a sign of His covenant to never again destroy the earth with water because He knew that rainbows are always associated with rain and is something that can be seen by people anywhere at various times. He knew there would be local floods that would cause people wondering if He was going to destroy the earth again. Being able to see the rainbow would remind them of His covenant. Basin ma-phobia nya sila part ba! So everytime makakita tag rainbow, we can remember of god's promise na.
    Last edited by heliopause; 08-01-2012 at 04:26 PM.

  6. #1676

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    ^^^
    hmmm wa ka kaabot sa concept nga the earht is flat pero kaabot ka when it was made sa inyung geneisi?
    and are you trying to say this out from god's thoughts when you said that god "knew there would be local floods that would cause people wondering if He was going to destroy the earth again. Being able to see the rainbow would remind them of His covenant"?
    and he also specifically thought of some local floods that would cause people wondering, hence the rainbow they would not worry?
    Wow you never cease to amaze me, now your reading "god's" thoughts...nas ngilngig paka sa prophet

  7. #1677

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    @mokils

    hehhe.....thanks! mao ra pud naabot sa akong pobre nga hunahuna brod.
    peace!

  8. #1678

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    Quote Originally Posted by heliopause View Post
    walay alkanse sa mga theists kung walay ginoo. Kamo maoy paghunahunag maayo kung unsa nya kadako sa destruction ug kasakit inyong ma experienced. Remember do not try God or abuse his sustaining grace sa imong kinabuhi.
    Paniguro diay ni inyoha.

    "ah tuo na lang kog ginoo, para safe!"

  9. #1679

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    Quote Originally Posted by noy View Post
    nice man pud nang mag focus sa livelihood bai,and the things that we can grasp..
    but muabut jud ang panahon nga we want something more than the usual.
    like sweldo..wou would always want a raise, maski dako naka ug swekdo and secured na ka, you would always look for a greener pasture..so click na kaau imu business so magdungag napud kag branch...so maski unsa pay imung buhaton...
    you will never be satisfied...kay ingun pa nila there's no other way but up...padako ug pa asenso jud atong goel kanunay...
    but the problem is, when are we going to stop?when we are satisfied of course...but ang question is?when does satisfaction comes? kung padatuay...usa sa mga proof nga tao di makuntento kay there's another branch of SM inspite sa maski usa ka SM pa lang...sulbad na tanang problema maski pag pila ka generation sa inyo pamilya...kung sa mga tao pud ta...grabe kaau ta ka frustrated when people change,left or we call it emotional attachment, kay ang tao...wanted good things to last forever.. ari pud tas bisyo...magsugod ra na sa curious2x..daun mag tilaw2x hangtud ma addict na...kay ang tao whether makaayo man or dili...kinahanglan mu progess...and sa ako lang experience...man can never be satisfied without God.
    there's is this longing in us that we try to fill with fortune and fame,knowledge,pride,people..but all we need is God.
    ingun pa sa bible nga seek first the kingdon of God and all these things shall be added unto you...
    sometimes we start at the wrong starting points that's why we always end up running in circles..
    bro don't get me wrong ha, this is my perspective.this is about my faith in God.
    whatever your stand is, you have my full respect.
    so you did seek god and did you find him already? how and in what way? and if you already found him, are you now satisfied and fulfilled? if so, what are you still doing here?

  10. #1680

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinoy_09 View Post
    Paniguro diay ni inyoha.

    "ah tuo na lang kog ginoo, para safe!"
    Theist = Tabla, Daug
    Atheist = Pildi, Tabla..

    Asa man ka?

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