Questions for the Atheists

[Ginalyn]

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i'm sorry, but on your other post you are so adamant that there is no hell and there is a god. Why here, you're using the word SPECULATE ?

Because it is all we could do.
Speculate. We can not do anything more.
Can you see God? NO.
But we can speculate that there is a God, right?
Can you know a definite truth about God? No.
But you can pretend to know. Again you are speculating.

Everyday I speculate that I can win the swertres lotto.
That is all I could do.
You can visit the swertres fanatics thread.
Can I be sure about swertres outcome? NO.
But I bet my P10 on a number I believe will come out.
I can speculate on the winning numbers using statistics, patterns and instincts.
Yes, I won a lot of times by betting on a number i speculated to come out..I lost a lot of times too.

If you lived long enough in this life. And you observe nature keenly. You will learn a lot of things. That learning will help you speculate about your existence in this world. Look at the ants, how insignificant they are. But we need them to clean up our mess. DO the ants know us? No. Can they understand us? No.But, they can see us. How can you know of a God or understand a God that you can not even see? or hear, or feel or touch or smell. Its all in your mind. All a speculation.

[Ginalyn]

Pantheism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know this kind of outlook quite well--I was once a pantheist.

-RODION

Yeah you are right.
let me high light some points in wikipedia:

In 2008, Albert Einstein's 1954 German letter in which he dismissed belief in a personal God was auctioned off for more than US$330,000. Einstein wrote, "We followers of Spinoza see our God in the wonderful order and lawfulness of all that exists and in its soul ("Beseeltheit") as it reveals itself in man and animal." in a letter to Eduard Büsching (25 October 1929) after Büsching sent Einstein a copy of his book Es gibt keinen Gott. Einstein responded that the book only dealt with the concept of a personal God and not the impersonal God of pantheism. Einstein usually identified himself as agnostic, but admitted a belief in "Spinoza's God".[15] "I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly," he wrote in another letter in 1954.[16]

In 2011, an 1866 letter written by William Herndon, Abraham Lincoln's law partner, was auctioned off for US$30,000[17] . In it, Herndon writes of the U.S. President's evolving religious views, which included Pantheism.

Mr. Lincoln’s religion is too well known to me to allow of even a shadow of a doubt; he is or was a Theist & a Rationalist, denying all extraordinary - supernatural inspiration or revelation. At one time in his life, to say the least, he was an elevated Pantheist, doubting the immortality of the soul as the Christian world understands that term. He believed that the soul lost its identity and was immortal as a force. Subsequent to this he rose to the belief of a God, and this is all the change he ever underwent

[heliopause]

@atheists
tan-aw lang sa mo ani ha? minaw sad maayo.
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[SioDenz]

When you die there is no way for you to know the truth. Your brains holds the logical facts of life, it's just that a part of it has been clouded since our birth. These clouds will never disappear until your death, not unless you'll find the truth you've been longing for while you are alive. Heaven is something you can create right here on earth, simply because it is originated from an earthly beliefs. Try to look around you, how many people around you has live a life comparable to HELL simply because they have nothing to eat, and forced to do evil things that might end up them going to HELL if it there is really a HELL.. HELL are for those who believed in HEAVEN these people are those who done evil things in the street or in an institution with their white robes and sacramental paraphernalia. The only difference between these two evil doings, they labeled themselves HOLY and the other one is Immoral... I am not an Atheist or something but I don't believe the man who speak about the Man who saves the world, simply because he only speak about what he read and heard. Believe me, he will run as fast as Hell when it's turn for him to be Crucified.. Find the truth inside your heart, not in someone's tongue.. BOOM!!!

Nice wordings but in the end, believing on something without any concrete basis will have no meaning. Your idea is not based on the Bible and cannot be proven by science - So its just nice wordings..

[SioDenz]

All we could do is speculate.
the concept of hell is really problematic.

Not if you will look for the answers in the Bible. Its all there

[SioDenz]

What if you're wrong too? Please there are lot of people now who are in suffering, because of belief and faith they call it. They don't have anymore faith in their selves... Don't give them false hope... There is nothing beyond death, if there is, why don't He do something about these people while they were alive... this Ancient MLM...BOOM!!!! Wake Up!!!!Help someone up!!!!

I think your a little confuse with your belief bro.

Based on your statement, makalibog if your an Atheist or your an Anti-God.

If your an Anti-God, the Bible has the answer of all your question - please read and understand.
If your an Athiest - your question is Invalid.

[SioDenz]

@helio, how can you claim that the Bible is indeed credible ?? how many versions of the bible are there ?? and how many religions are there in the world ?? each claiming to be the TRUE RELIGION. How can VAGUE verses in the bible or whatever book is your source to be a definitive proof of a god ??

To understand the Truth you need: an Open Mind and use your own conscience.

Proving the the existence of an unseen being needs personal experience and understanding - physical or scientific Proof may Not be enough.

[whiteKelso]

To understand the Truth you need: an Open Mind and use your own conscience.

Proving the the existence of an unseen being needs personal experience and understanding - physical or scientific Proof may Not be enough.

so you really choose the bible as truth? coz the bible says its truth? hahah...come on bro! dig more....

[SioDenz]

so you really choose the bible as truth? coz the bible says its truth? hahah...come on bro! dig more....

Did i say that?

I said open mind and conscience. we are born theist because our parents introduced us to Theism. Thats why anha ta magsugod dha ug pangita or test sa kamaturan - Atung examinun ang atung gidak-an nga pagtuo ug insakto bah gamit atung kaugalingun pagsabot ug konsensya UNYA sabton sad nimu ang uban Belief and Compare sa imung gibarugan. In that way if di ka bias you may understand unsay tinuod.

I never mentioned the Bible - you should also DIG more on your reading comprehension.

[rodsky]

My turn to ask a question to the theists--do you think your religion would continue existing (I'm referring to an organizational structure akin to the Catholic Church heirarchy or the Iglesia ni Cristo Administrators, or Latter Day Saints/Mormon Church Administrators) if you didn't have a "collection plate" or basket or whatever means your church implements to exact a certain amount of money from its members?

Here is a list of some Christian denominations that were formerly active, but now inactive, and the main reason why it became inactive is, wala nama'y mo-adto sa ilang church so wala na'y mohatag ug kwarta sa collection plate nila.
Category:Former Christian denominations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Atheism doesn't have a church. It doesn't have a "collection plate". Yet there are atheists.

-RODION