MERGED: Naruto Discussions

[crossramz]

---

Walay crack sa mask oi, bisag scratch wala lol. Imba man sad ni Tobi. Possibile cya si Izuna (Madara's little brother) pero unlikely unless nakakita cyag way para mo prolong sa iya lifespan. Total wala man gi sulti sa manga na patay jud cya, gkuwaan lang cya ug mata nya nabuta. Pede sad si Tobi si Kagami Uchiha kay naa similarities sa timeline ug silhouette/appearance.

Naa say Tobi=Madara clone theory na creation ra ni Madara si Tobi before cya nahimong imba. Bale plano ni ni Madara right from the start kay na realize nya sauna na mas imba jud si Hashirama kay sa niya or Madara is just playing his cards right bisag ikamatay pa niya at the time (para maluto lang iyang ultimate plan).

Pero your guess is as good as mine. Si Kishimoto ra ghapon makabuot ana.

nice story bro..

[gshukaku]

Nakit-an rani nako...naa pud sense iyang theory.

What if... Kagami Uchiha was Tobi!!
I'm starting to wonder if the fellow pupil of Hiruzen Sarutobi and Danzo Shimura, Kagami Uchiha (seen in the last thoughts of Danzo, after his battle with Sasuke) could be Tobi (Madara Uchiha)? Since i doubt very strongly that Tobi is actually Madara! I have found a couple of pages from the manga which support my theory:

In the following page, the Tsuchikage makes reference to Madara's ''Mooneye Operation'' to be alot like what Danzo's idea of the Shinobi World is... i believe that Madara and Danzo think alike for their respective plans because they were fellow pupils, and Kagami seemed to be in Danzo's three-man cell rather than Sarutobi's... which explains why they think alike!
Naruto 467 v50 - Read Naruto 467 Online - Page 17

Here, we see the three-man cells of both Sarutobi and Danzo. As I said up above, i believe Kagami Uchiha and Akimichi Torifu were in Danzo's squad, under the 2nd Hokage, like Sarutobi's squad.
Naruto 481 v51 Comments - Read Naruto 481 Online

I found this other page while re-reading the fight between Madara and Minato during Naruto's birth and the Kyubi attack of 16 years ago. After their ''Battle of Speed'', Minato describes Madara's space-time ninjutsu to be better than his own space-time ninjutsu and even the 2nd Hokage's, Nidaime Hokage. And it might just be me forgeting stuff, but wasn't that the first and only time someone spoke of the Nidaime Hokage to have had space-time ninjutsu?? And if he did, then it explains that he could have tought one of his students the space-time ninjutsu techniques! Furthermore, Masashi Kishimoto seems to like making the students become stronger than their master in this series (Orochimaru and Sarutobi, Sasuke and Kakashi, Naruto and Jiraiya, Shikamaru and Asuma...) so it makes sense that the student of the 2nd Hokage could have developped space-time ninjutsus even better than his master.
Naruto 502 v53 - Read Naruto 502 Online - Page 11

I have no page to support my following argument, but it makes sense anwyays, you'll see!
Kishimoto told on many sites that the name of the 2nd Hokage (Nidaime) was Tobirama Senju... and alot of people, including me, think that the name Madara Uchiha used, ''Tobi'', could have been in reference to Tobirama Senju, the 2nd Hokage. Now, I think this is very probable because if Kagami Uchiha studied under him, than it is indeed a strong possibility that he would've taken a nickname from his old master. Tobi from Tobirama.

To add to my theory about Tobi / Kagami Uchiha, would'nt it be great if the reason why Tobi seemed so surprise to see Kabuto's last Edo Tensei coffin was because it's Madara Uchiha?! And that Kagami Uchiha could be Izuna Uchiha's (Madara's little brother) son!? Maybe he was Madara's nephew and after his father's death he was raised under Madara's ideologies? This makes sense since Madara and Izuna are the same age as Hashirama and Tobirama, so Kagami could have easily been the child of either of those Uchiha brothers! And it could make for a very interesting plot twist in the Naruto series!

Anyways, i hope you guys like my theory and tell me what you think about it i'd like to know good and bad opinions concerning it! Thanks in advance!!

[gshukaku]

naa pa gyud...
Aha! Proof Uchiha Kagami is Tobidara - Naruto Forums

[onehuwan]

Klaro man cgro ang crack, you can see it and you can read it as well...

Aw, pasensya. Hehehe nalibat guro ko. Retracting comment.

[hobie]

wala gyud ko kabantay sa crack ..grabehay gyud mo pagka adik sa

[yanzkii]

layo.a ug lagpot sa anime uie,

[tsunade]

bwaahaha agree ko nimo yanzkii lagpaz kaayo ang anime..pero naa scene nga akong ge ganhan.. katong naa si Hinata lol.

[boang3000]

batia sa anime karon sa naruto oy. fillers man

[Ityan]

bro Ityan mao pud na akong nabantayan ai.. sa manga ge ingon nga ang Kamui lisod depensaan. unya ang type sa skill is space/time dyapon og parehas og visual effect sa jutsu ni Tobi..

Kamui Dojutsu



Tobi's Space-Time Jutsu

[IMG]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-odov_gJsnX4/T6Qgn00ABOI/AAAAAAAAANU/djVbyc2g34E*******images+%282%29.jpg[/IMG]

Yeah. I think their eyes could be related but the Tobi=Obito theory still doesn't make sense. I will ligid on the floor if Kishimoto will reveal that Tobi = Obito. Hehe

most probably n.negate jud..

just a theory and has nothing to do with Obito=tobi theory..

maybe both eyes are related, the left eye will "kamui" others, the right will "kamui" self..

Indeed.

it is said that Obito was Uchiha Kagami's son while Kagami Uchiha has teleportation jutsu maybe he has Kamui too, then the theory begins Kamui + Teleportation = Space-Time Jutsu like Tobi has. So in short dako og chance nga si Kagami Uchiha = Tobi...

Wala lage ko naka balita anang anak si Obito ni Kagami. Diin ka kuha ana na info bro?

[yanzkii]

@tsunade: sure ka kato ra nga scene imu gi ganahan? heheh


@masashi: