MERGED: Gay Marriage in the Philippines

[Eve's Apple Project]

^^ i suggest we stop qouting the bible. frankly, it is a waste of time since we all didn't study it. we are going to go in circles kung mao na ang sugdan. trust me, look at the thread about religion, hangtod karon di maghuman..wahaha

[jdane]

Isn't that the Letter of PAUL to the Corinthians and Letter of PAUL to the Romans? yeah.. i thought so


As for what Jesus Said:
You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and the first commandment. The second resembles it: you must love your neighbor as yourself. (Matt 22:37-39)

I believe the Holy Spirit was with Paul when he wrote those things.
Well, believe what you want to believe in. I respect you and your opinion, and your stand on this.. and I don't wanna argue about the Bible because I would be degrading Christ's teachings if I do that. And yes to Eve's Apple Project, we'd be going in circles because you'd pick out verses that will be useful in your argument, and I would be doing the same.

Basta, for the last time, I'm oppose to same-*** marriage. Bisan mo follow up pa ug: " what if your son will be gay" churva.
May God bless and enlighten us all...

[lodyl]

you may find it hard to believe but that is just it. Plain simple truth.
Put yourself in a situation where you cannot marry the woman you love. If society dictates that you cannot marry her because a lot of people would feel uncomfortable if you did. what would you do?

Aw, simple bai.... minyoan gihapon nako, buot diay sila?

Based sa imohang example, mura ni ug movie nga BRAVEHEART... nga gipakaslan jud ni William Wallace sa tinago ang iyahang uyab then automatic honeymoon dayon para dili maka una ug tira ang mga royal bloods/high ranking officials... D

But then, it's a union between a guy and a girl... not a girl to a girl or guy to a guy which i think is the issue?

[vipvip68]

I dont get why some guys make same *** marriage such a big issue.. wala man ni sila manghilabot sa ato-a... its their life and its their belief... ilahang conscience and ilahang morals... each of us has a different set of ideals and dreams in our pursuit of happiness.... so let them be happy and gay.... just as long as dili lang mu impede sa atong own freedoms...

As for religious beliefs... to each his own... catholics in general obviously dont welcome gay people (despite many priests being gay) but other religious groups are more liberal...

Just because daghan tang mga catholics doesnt mean nga tanan rules and regulations sa church atong i-sunod sa government. We have to be fair to everyone especially those sectors nga marginalized or minority...

Sa school pa sauna, i would see mga gay schoolmates being made fun off / teased / humiliated in front of everyone... and seeing as everyone else was doing it, everyone in school didnt want to be friends or be close to the gay people... pero eventually, as I grew older , dili na kaayo big deal kung bayot ba or dili...

Karaon , I have friends who are gay pero di man sad sila manghilabot... theyre good to me so I have no reason to hate them. Wala man sad ko nila gi disrepect or gi trippingan so Its not really a big deal.

in short... pasagdi lang gud ni sila... wa man sila manghilabot nimo (unless gi molest ka or something). Let them find their own happiness.

[Scott Bernard]

Dili man jud ta maka please sa tanan... Naa man jud majority nga dili in favor sa Same Six Marriage. Dili jud ninyo ma pugos ang mga tao nga mo agree sa ing ani nga sitwasyon.

[Eve's Apple Project]

^^ actually, it affects us all kay moagi man na sa mga politico. mogasto pasad ta para ana.

Catholics being the only religion who is not in favor? please think again. dili catholic ra, daghan (muslims?, INC?, all born again are in favor?, JW?) i doubt it.

some of them are respected & accepted in our society. ang realidad, the ones who deserve respect is respected (bisan unsa pa ang gender orientation). wa ko kabalo unsa na nga year nga gibugal-bugalan ang mga bayot nimo nga classmate kay sa among panahon, naay mabugal-bugalan (tungod bastos og patagad kaayo) og naa say respitado (SSG president pa gani).

naa juy mocounter ani bai, kay this is a big leap to the unkown. daghan mahitabo nga lusot ani. a law should be throughly studied & discussed before jumping to it kay dili ni basta-basta marepeal.. hunahuna-a lang ang gasto.. usa pasad, naay mas importante nga balaod before ani, RH Bill & divorce..


bottomline, this is not about hate bai.. but it is about protecting what is considered sacred... Marraige.

[Romeojin]

because children have no mouths to drink wine with and are not capable of binge eating /sarcasm

Eventually anyone is children in your book. Geez next time try not to say "beating up children" cause thats tantamount to child abuse and you wont see scripture of that in the Bible instead use "stoning people" as punishment for their violation, to be specific.

Yes, we deny people their basic rights because it makes you uncomfortable.. really classy mate

Cheers!

Cause gay marriage is not a basic right in the first place, its nothing more than personal desire (and monetary)... I had my own desire but its undesirable from your point of view Gay marriage makes a lot of people uncomfortable as well, gays should respect the majority's opinion we are living in democracy here, majority wins. /sarcasm lots of it/

if you say im or people are uncomfortable with gay marriage then why would gays who like gay marriage be uncomfortable with the Church and government laws. /sarcasm/


Cheers!

[Romeojin]

you may find it hard to believe but that is just it. Plain simple truth.
Put yourself in a situation where you cannot marry the woman you love. If society dictates that you cannot marry her because a lot of people would feel uncomfortable if you did. what would you do?

Marry her in Las Vegas

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

there are other religions that allow same *** marriage. The state can't legislate laws to favor roman catholics only... dapat i-allow ning marriage as civil union sa state but its up to the religious sect to accept the union based sa ilang church teachings.

I think the thread is about marriage in the civil sense... lahi nga story ang church aspect of wedding.

We better define kung unsa gyud pasabot sa "marriage" ani nga thread.... separate catholic views on marriage and marriage in the context of civil union, conjugal property etc...


So for me , pwede married sa civil ang bayot pero dili sa catholic church... pero they can get a church wedding if their religion allows it.

Nobody is stopping them from getting married as long as they dont use the rituals and rites of the SACRAMENT of MATRIMONY . Other denominations maski Christians pa na dont at all adhere to the SACRAMENT of MATRIMONY because only Roman Catholics do that , maybe the Latter Day Saints lang cguro . In whole or in part .

In the case of the thread , this was merged already and the original thread talked about same s3x marriage that occured in BAGUIO CITY , PHILIPPINES using the rituals of of the SACRAMENT of MATRIMONY in whole or in part identified from the news reports based from video's released by the MCC .

@DUSTASHED ....

Before anything else let me start by saying its "To add insult to injury" not to insult to injury

Oh my bad . Should have edited it lols .

Now back OT:

Why church weddings? Because we are entitled to worship the same God that you do.

Worshiping the same God ? Then follow God's commandments . Its as simple as that.

I mentioned copyrights because you are implying that only your brand of worship is acceptable before the eyes of God and that in itself is discriminatory.

It is indeed on what is acceptable . Do you think same s3x marriage is acceptable to the God you worship ?

As to " if the HOMOSEXUALS demand respect , then they should learn also to respect the SACREDNESS of the HOLY SACRAMENTS"

In a perfect world LGBT people would not need to demand respect because respect as a HUMAN BEING is already innate.. it is an immutable birth right given to all men. But reality bites, and everyday they suffer discrimination from bigots like you who erroneously parade under the mask of righteousness bestowed upon you by a book written by people thousands of years ago.

Dont accuse me of something you can only think of because it does not favor to your end. If indeed you really think I am a bigot then there are BILLIONS of BIGOTS in this world . Let me ask you , are you a HOMOSEXUAL Mr. , Ms. DUSTASHED ?

The righteousness can only handle such capacity of acceptance and tolerance . People know here that I am in no way against , discriminates HOMOSEXUALS as human beings . But to some point , what would be next ? Humans will marry animals ?

[vipvip68]

^^ actually, it affects us all kay moagi man na sa mga politico. mogasto pasad ta para ana.

its congress' job to pass hundreds of laws... theyre already being paid to do that.. urging them to pass 1 more law won't cost us anything more.

Catholics being the only religion who is not in favor? please think again. dili catholic ra, daghan (muslims?, INC?, all born again are in favor?, JW?) i doubt it.

where did you get this notion that roman catholicism is the only religion not in favor of same *** marriage?

some of them are respected & accepted in our society. ang realidad, the ones who deserve respect is respected (bisan unsa pa ang gender orientation). wa ko kabalo unsa na nga year nga gibugal-bugalan ang mga bayot nimo nga classmate kay sa among panahon, naay mabugal-bugalan (tungod bastos og patagad kaayo) og naa say respitado (SSG president pa gani).

so, if they are deserving of respect, why deprive them of the right to get married?

naa juy mocounter ani bai, kay this is a big leap to the unkown. daghan mahitabo nga lusot ani. a law should be throughly studied & discussed before jumping to it kay dili ni basta-basta marepeal.. hunahuna-a lang ang gasto.. usa pasad, naay mas importante nga balaod before ani, RH Bill & divorce..

thats fear mongering. unsa may mawala nimo if i-allow ni? I agree the RH Bill and Divorce Bill need to be passed... pero gi block man ghapon ni sila sa RC church... which just shows nga dili dapat manghilabot ang church or mahimong issue ang religion when it comes to legislation because religious beliefs are not universal and you will end up with different beliefs. The law should go beyond religious biases.

bottomline, this is not about hate bai.. but it is about protecting what is considered sacred... Marraige.

marriage is not the sole property of the church... or the Roman Catholic Church to be specific... one can get a civil wedding without a church ceremony.... akong definition of marriage here is not religious but as merely the legal civil union aspect of it.

Dili man ma daot ang sanctity of the Catholic Marriage because the union is purely civil and legal...