MERGED: Gay Marriage in the Philippines

[high_heels]

and you think posting pictures as ads to validate your claims and statements would make any difference? Oh my gosh! I end my response here...Dustahead clearly has a flawed sense of reality.

So to those who DO NOT support Gay Marriage like me. Well, let's continue with our points as well. If these LGBT's are loud enough to make themselves heard, then we will be as LOUD enough to revert!

[high_heels]

Careful, your anger is showing again

The right to get married legally yes. And how will it affect you personally if 2 girls or 2 guys get married?

you said it will have a domino effect, can you give specifics?

And again(for the nth time), there are benefits afforded to heterosexual married couples that homosexuals don't have, tax exemptions and Health insurance to name a few

We pay taxes too you know

Cheers!

hala, akoa gyud ni tubagon....

Taxes? What tax exemption To be head of the household To be a dependent? Kay ngano, you need to be married to be tax exempted or have lesser tax? You simply do not need to be married to have tax benefits...adto BIR kaw para kasabot ka...gikan ko didto gahapon and I was reminded there are NUMEROUS ways to go about it.

healthcare privileges?? Like what? Surely you have Philhealth, SSS and health insurance right? Do you need to be married to have such benefits?

if you are doing the normal things any normal citizen does in this country, get a job, pay your taxes, secure a healthcare, get a house, etc..... etc.... then there's no difference of you having the same rights as married people.

Unsa pa may lain nga rights imong gusto? The RIGHT to stick your d!ck to a b@tt hole? Haven't you been doing this already even without any LAWS implemented? saun....

[lodyl]

and you think posting pictures as ads to validate your claims and statements would make any difference? Oh my gosh! I end my response here...Dustahead clearly has a flawed sense of reality.

So to those who DO NOT support Gay Marriage like me. Well, let's continue with our points as well. If these LGBT's are loud enough to make themselves heard, then we will be as LOUD enough to revert!

Tuara.... so it means "WAR" na?

[Dustashed]

lahi jud tag baroganan.. we are both Pro LGB (maybe di pa ko sa Transgenders thou) but we don't see this issue the same way. As what i have understood & experienced, we can achieve all that you mentioned by doing the basics (School, get a Job). LGB can go to school & finish, & find stable jobs after. wa lang nako apila ang transgenders coz usually, they need to earn cash before they transform (di nalng nako i-elaborate). I believe that the best insurance policy is when you are the Principal holder not the beneficiary. If both are working, i don't see the need to become the dependent. If (God forgid) something happens to either one of them, why not consider a "Last Will & Testament" in the first place. that covers it all right? Being a responsible person, di na jud ta dapat magpabigat sa atong partners(Gay or not) or parents. even ako asawa, i can't & Won't stop her from working because i know that she worked so hard to finish her studies (i leave it up to her, i advice but not demand). so why would i want her to just sit at home & wait for me? Plus it is not healthy for our relationship, labi na sa panahon karon. I don't have to be Gay to understand the need of equality. There are existing laws that we can surely make use of.


on taxation: daghan man sad ang wala naminyo but they didn't complain. i have met & knew people who are Happy "Single-Blessed" , well some of them are grumpy (we all know why?! hehehe). but wa pako kadungog nga naay ni-complain about taxes, they are just used to it i guess. One thing is for sure, sa akong mga kaila, they were responsible people. They didn't wasted their lives thinking & complaining on what could've happened if they have tax breaks , instead they just work & found ways to improve their lives without complaining about it(& their direct family). Life sucks, but we just have to live it.

Adoption: wa pasad ko kabalo unsa ang ako baroganan ani. i hate to say this, but it will become confusing para sa bata kung kinsa ang amahan og inahan sa pamilya ana. doesn't it? ma subject to bullying na hinoon ang bata ana.
Amo silingan (an Old Gay in his 60's) takes great care of his apo, better than the parents pa gani. so para nako di ko kaingon nga dili maayo nga Gay ang parents kay wa man nay basis. but unsaon man na nato nga ang society(wa koy labot ani nila ha) nato kay di paman ka accept nga Gay parents. Kung Law ang storyahan, wa pasad ko kabalo kung naa bay specific law on adoption that prohibits gay couple to adopt a child. OR a law that prohibits you to take care of your niece & nephews.

Bai I appreciate your opinion on this matter, labi na personal experience ang imung gi basehan. I will give a detailed response ani ig balik nako.. got to run some errands and trabaho sad para dli ko magpabigat sa ako pamilya hehe..

just a quick saying/proverb/quote na naka remind nako regarding sa views sa soceity:

What is popular is not always right; What is right is not always popular

[high_heels]

Tuara.... so it means "WAR" na?

I'm not in favor of war, this is simply me stating my opinions as LOUD as this other person here. Kay ngano sila ray pwede paminawon? Na hala!!! Mag kisaw sad ko ug akoa, syaro inyo rang pag saba saba ang paminawon sa katawhan. Naa sad mi among kaagot ot ug ka panguot sa mga tawong di kasabot!

Ohh diba...ni rhyme akonog tubag, murag poem! lol...

[jdane]

Could you please specify exactly where Jesus himself said that same *** marriage is a big NO-NO? afaik he only said 2 things, love God above all else, love your neighbor as yourself.

I'm sure these are Christ's teachings:

1 Corinthians 6: 9*
NIV : Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have *** with men..

Tagalog : Ang mga hindi matuwid ay hindi magmamana ng paghahari ng Diyos. Hindi ba ninyo alam iyan? Huwag kayong magpadaya. Ang mga nakikiapid, ang mga sumasamba sa diyos-diyosan, ang mga mangangalunya, ang mga bakla, ang mga gumagamit sa kapwa lalaki ay hindi magmamana ng paghahari ng Diyos.


Romans 1:26-27
NIV: Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Tagalog: Sa dahilang ito, hinayaan sila ng Diyos sa pagnanasang walang dangal sapagkat maging ang kababaihan nila ay nagbago ng likas nilang gamit patungo sa taliwas sa kalikasan. 27 Gayundin ang mga lalaki sa pag-iwan nila sa likas na gamit ng mga babae. Sila ay nag-aalab sa pita sa isa't isa. Ang mga lalaki kasama ang lalaki ay gumagawa ng kahihiyan at tinanggap nila ang kaparusahang karapat-dapat sa mga liko nilang gawa.


Of course, same-*** MARRIAGE is not specified, but let us use our common sense, ayt?
But with God's grace, all of us can be cleansed and be saved. Tanan man jud ta makasala.
1 Corinthians 6:11 - "And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

Uhm, if He only said TWO things, nganong baga man kaayo ang BIBLE bro?

[Dustashed]

Honestly, vague pa gihapon nako ang imohang rason... unsa man jud diay ang GUSTO NIMO why you want this same s3x marriage thing? As mentioned sa previous posts, tax breaks, money stuffs, kana ra? Unsa paman if naa... pwede iyagyag nimo ang imohang gusto nga "rights" nga makuha if let's say OK na ang same s3x marriage diri sa Pinas?

you may find it hard to believe but that is just it. Plain simple truth.
Put yourself in a situation where you cannot marry the woman you love. If society dictates that you cannot marry her because a lot of people would feel uncomfortable if you did. what would you do?

[brian joshua]

di lage pwede makasal ang bayot kay bayot...

dawata nlng na, nganu bitaw nag binayot mo. sukad nahimutang ang LGBT,
nigara na pd ni clag maayo.

[high_heels]

you may find it hard to believe but that is just it. Plain simple truth.
Put yourself in a situation where you cannot marry the woman you love. If society dictates that you cannot marry her because a lot of people would feel uncomfortable if you did. what would you do?

note: Put yourself in a situation where you cannot marry the woman you love. <----WOMAN mana bro, so with what you said..a MAN wants to get married to a WOMAN. surely that is different from SAME *** marriage.

[Dustashed]

I'm sure these are Christ's teachings:

1 Corinthians 6: 9*
NIV : Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have *** with men..

Tagalog : Ang mga hindi matuwid ay hindi magmamana ng paghahari ng Diyos. Hindi ba ninyo alam iyan? Huwag kayong magpadaya. Ang mga nakikiapid, ang mga sumasamba sa diyos-diyosan, ang mga mangangalunya, ang mga bakla, ang mga gumagamit sa kapwa lalaki ay hindi magmamana ng paghahari ng Diyos.


Romans 1:26-27
NIV: Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Tagalog: Sa dahilang ito, hinayaan sila ng Diyos sa pagnanasang walang dangal sapagkat maging ang kababaihan nila ay nagbago ng likas nilang gamit patungo sa taliwas sa kalikasan. 27 Gayundin ang mga lalaki sa pag-iwan nila sa likas na gamit ng mga babae. Sila ay nag-aalab sa pita sa isa't isa. Ang mga lalaki kasama ang lalaki ay gumagawa ng kahihiyan at tinanggap nila ang kaparusahang karapat-dapat sa mga liko nilang gawa.


Of course, same-*** MARRIAGE is not specified, but let us use our common sense, ayt?
But with God's grace, all of us can be cleansed and be saved. Tanan man jud ta makasala.
1 Corinthians 6:11 - "And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

Uhm, if He only said TWO things, nganong baga man kaayo ang BIBLE bro?

Isn't that the Letter of PAUL to the Corinthians and Letter of PAUL to the Romans? yeah.. i thought so


As for what Jesus Said:
You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the greatest and the first commandment. The second resembles it: you must love your neighbor as yourself. (Matt 22:37-39)