MERGED: Gay Marriage in the Philippines

[lodyl]

PM ni Dustashed:

Hi,


I noticed that you keep leaving likes towards people having opinions against Marriage Equality. If it's not too much trouble, would you mind telling me your personal views on the matter. You can also ask any question you may have regarding this matter and I will answer it to the best of my abilities

Cheers!

My Answer:

I think clear naman guro na akoang side bai... nga NO jud ko anang SAME S3X marriage...

[Dustashed]

sorry cant help it but your statement is just soo gay. being gay is normal. people accept them and respect them. dont push it. what i hate about homos is that there are some that are going out of bounds and pushing there luck. it wont happen. sorry. ask your father about it.

You say people accept them, but the hallmark of acceptance is seeing LGBT people as equals. We are not pushing for special rights, only asking for the same ones you have. We are not asking you to be comfortable with Marriage equality, we are asking the law to view us equally.

And as for sounding sooo gay? well I am gay and as you said, "being gay is normal" so there really isn't anything wrong with that statement now is there?

cheers!

[Dustashed]

pwede ma legalized same *** marriage dri sa atoa. botar mo ug mga politiko na willing mo usab sa balog kabahin ana kung naa man gani ingon ana na politiko.

Someday.. soon.

The times are changing

[high_heels]

You say people accept them, but the hallmark of acceptance is seeing LGBT people as equals. We are not pushing for special rights, only asking for the same ones you have. We are not asking you to be comfortable with Marriage equality, we are asking the law to view as equally.

And as for sounding sooo gay? well I am gay and as you said, "being gay is normal" so there really isn't anything wrong with that statement now is there?

cheers!

WTF!!! So what sort of OTHER RIGHTS do you think do not have from the rest of us Filipinos? the right to vote? the right to an opinion? Or simply the right for you to have a marriage certificate? Nag tipon man gani nang wala gipa kasal...kamo pa kaha gheez...... as I clearly stated, have your own wedding rituals kung gusto mo...ayaw mog insist nga i acknowledge inyong union as legal because that will have a domino effect on the many and I mean many legislation in this country. You want to be respected? Then respect Marital rights and marital laws which protects heterosexual relationships. And squeezing yourself with this law is undoubtedly DISRESPECTING heterosexual rights.

[lodyl]

Dustashed, again..... question lang... what if for example, if ma "legal" na ang marriage diri sa Pinas, what's NEXT?

[Eve's Apple Project]

I agree with you on this matter that people should marry for love and not just for the benefits.. but in the long run, If and when your brother decides that his boyfriend is the person he wants to spend the rest of his life with.. insurance money and stuff like that will eventually matter.

when he gets a job, and that job offers philhealth insurance.. if they were married, his husband if he were to get sick, would have philhealth coverage of up to P11,000 in medical bills

If they decide to adopt a child, they would have tax exemptions up to P20,000

yes it is sad, but sometimes money does matter

lahi jud tag baroganan.. we are both Pro LGB (maybe di pa ko sa Transgenders thou) but we don't see this issue the same way. As what i have understood & experienced, we can achieve all that you mentioned by doing the basics (School, get a Job). LGB can go to school & finish, & find stable jobs after. wa lang nako apila ang transgenders coz usually, they need to earn cash before they transform (di nalng nako i-elaborate). I believe that the best insurance policy is when you are the Principal holder not the beneficiary. If both are working, i don't see the need to become the dependent. If (God forgid) something happens to either one of them, why not consider a "Last Will & Testament" in the first place. that covers it all right? Being a responsible person, di na jud ta dapat magpabigat sa atong partners(Gay or not) or parents. even ako asawa, i can't & Won't stop her from working because i know that she worked so hard to finish her studies (i leave it up to her, i advice but not demand). so why would i want her to just sit at home & wait for me? Plus it is not healthy for our relationship, labi na sa panahon karon. I don't have to be Gay to understand the need of equality. There are existing laws that we can surely make use of.


on taxation: daghan man sad ang wala naminyo but they didn't complain. i have met & knew people who are Happy "Single-Blessed" , well some of them are grumpy (we all know why?! hehehe). but wa pako kadungog nga naay ni-complain about taxes, they are just used to it i guess. One thing is for sure, sa akong mga kaila, they were responsible people. They didn't wasted their lives thinking & complaining on what could've happened if they have tax breaks , instead they just work & found ways to improve their lives without complaining about it(& their direct family). Life sucks, but we just have to live it.

Adoption: wa pasad ko kabalo unsa ang ako baroganan ani. i hate to say this, but it will become confusing para sa bata kung kinsa ang amahan og inahan sa pamilya ana. doesn't it? ma subject to bullying na hinoon ang bata ana.
Amo silingan (an Old Gay in his 60's) takes great care of his apo, better than the parents pa gani. so para nako di ko kaingon nga dili maayo nga Gay ang parents kay wa man nay basis. but unsaon man na nato nga ang society(wa koy labot ani nila ha) nato kay di paman ka accept nga Gay parents. Kung Law ang storyahan, wa pasad ko kabalo kung naa bay specific law on adoption that prohibits gay couple to adopt a child. OR a law that prohibits you to take care of your niece & nephews.

[Dustashed]

Dustashed, question lang... what if for example, if ma "legal" na ang marriage diri sa Pinas, what's NEXT?

thanks for actually posting this time bai

Nothing's gonna happen. The world will still turn, corrupt officials will still be corrupt, you will still be working at your job, eat the same meals, live the same life that you always do.. Assuming that the world doesn't end by Dec 2012

But for some people, their lives will be so much better.. they get to live as they choose, marry the person they love, start a family together.. I know it sounds cheesy but take a good look at your own family, other people will have the opportunity to have that

[Eve's Apple Project]

It can and it will happen.. maybe not today but it will

by comparison, ang US bag-o lang gani ni repeal sa Dont ask Dont Tell policy sa Army

ang philippines gi allow ang gay servicemembers 2009 pa
LGBT rights in the Philippines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

sakto, it will ,but maybe not now... society is not ready (& im not sure if they will ever be)& the issue has to be studied 1000X more. the only way makalusot ni is when ang pinaka taas sa gobyerno kay membro sad sa LGBT & supports LGBT without the fear of a backlash from the society. Remember this, our Politicians listens to what the voters want (labi na sa election). if you can convince all the Sect leaders (muslims, christians,buddist, etc) then basin naay chance & you already won half of the battle.

[lodyl]

Honestly, vague pa gihapon nako ang imohang rason... unsa man jud diay ang GUSTO NIMO why you want this same s3x marriage thing? As mentioned sa previous posts, tax breaks, money stuffs, kana ra? Unsa paman if naa... pwede iyagyag nimo ang imohang gusto nga "rights" nga makuha if let's say OK na ang same s3x marriage diri sa Pinas?

[Dustashed]

WTF!!! So what sort of OTHER RIGHTS do you think do not have from the rest of us Filipinos? the right to vote? the right to an opinion? Or simply the right for you to have a marriage certificate? Nag puyo man gani nang wala gipa kasal...kamo pa kaha gheez...... as I clearly stated, have your own wedding rituals kung gusto mo...ayaw mog insist nga i acknowledge inyong union as legal because that will have a domino effect on the many and I mean many legislation in this country.

Careful, your anger is showing again

The right to get married legally yes. And how will it affect you personally if 2 girls or 2 guys get married?

you said it will have a domino effect, can you give specifics?

And again(for the nth time), there are benefits afforded to heterosexual married couples that homosexuals don't have, tax exemptions and Health insurance to name a few

We pay taxes too you know

Cheers!