MERGED: Gay Marriage in the Philippines

[Dustashed]

^^ Firstly, forgie me, but di ko makaopen anang imong video, blocked na diri sa akong giworkan. the answers you gave didn't solve the present situation & further future problem. It's not just the "hassle" but the point being is that our gov't (if you think of it) can't even give us the basic services we "need", why would we bother fight for a cause which is very untimely & personally IMO obsurd (no offense). like i said, the third *** already broke the taboo, why go back? Why the need to get married,when it was already said that marraige is for a man & woman. the taboo is broken when the third *** came out of the open. what is the point of going back? if it is acceptance, Look at boy abunda, isn't he respected already? ask yourself, why was he respected? was it because of his gender or because he was a respectable person in the first place? (daghan pa diha nga respected personalities which i need not to mention).

on my brother, what ever makes him happy (like i said we accepted him). tell me, unsa may rason why marraige is important? Property? commitment? it all doesn't make sense to me. We are already stuck with a lot of marital problems ,most of the time for simple reasons. People get married because they think they are in love. then pag abot sa panahon, mawagtang ang love, unsaon man nimo? toink. that is the present situation.. then karon you add this issue, tell me if things will change. Let's all face it, abuse will always be there because some people dont think before they jump. i have met people who got married because of the wrong reasons. unsa may kalahi-an nya ani? come on.. you want equality? women fought for equility but wonders why there are no "GENTLEMEN" anymore. toink. does that makes sense to you?

OT: Divorce woman..wow, nice picture you got there. what's the story behind? do you know her whole lifestory? toink. pag sure oi. i can't say if she is like the people i have met (& personally knew) but i am more inclined to say most (but perhaps not all) of women who is in an abusive relationship knows they are in one but they cling to hope that one day things will change. what i have said maybe harsh but lets face it, mao nay realidad. My parents fought all the time (flying dishes, kitchen stuffs, etc, been there) when i was young, i saw how bad it was but for me to accept divorce,hmmm not anytime soon.

Watch the video first then we'll talk..

On Divorce:
So what you are saying is that it is "THEIR" fault for not recognizing the abusive relationship in the first place and not getting out of it before it was too late? So women are not allowed to commit mistakes when it comes to love and relationship? WOW! I am speechless. You say you've seen it first hand, so you mean to say if your dad beat up your mom on a daily basis(I'm not saying he did, but lets take that as an example) you would want her to stick to her previous mistake (marrying your dad), until the day she died?

So you're just gonna say, sorry mom you've made your final answer.. no going back now.
If so, I feel sorry for your mom AND your brother.. your love for them is as shallow as the water puddles in colon

[Dustashed]

wala pa gyud ni nahuman wow..this thread has become a comparison between apples and oranges!

Still, I'm NO to same *** marriage...hell NO that is happening in this country..

Could you elaborate on your analogy good sir? please educate me as to why

[Dustashed]

well beating does not equate stoning, does it?

and Christians does not necessarily follows some of the Old Testament laws.

ohh my bad! since stoning children is a hell of a lot better than beating up children right? /sarcasm

"and Christians does not necessarily follows some of the Old Testament laws."

Exactly! and why should Same-*** be the exemption? You are nitpicking excerpts that support your cause without understanding the contexts of when these books were written

[Dustashed]

on my brother, what ever makes him happy (like i said we accepted him). tell me, unsa may rason why marraige is important? Property? commitment? it all doesn't make sense to me. We are already stuck with a lot of marital problems ,most of the time for simple reasons. People get married because they think they are in love. then pag abot sa panahon, mawagtang ang love, unsaon man nimo? toink. that is the present situation.. then karon you add this issue, tell me if things will change. Let's all face it, abuse will always be there because some people dont think before they jump. i have met people who got married because of the wrong reasons. unsa may kalahi-an nya ani? come on.. you want equality? women fought for equility but wonders why there are no "GENTLEMEN" anymore. toink. does that makes sense to you?

Unfortunately it doesn't, You are committing the fallacy of a straw man argument that I can no longer keep track of all the inconsistencies of your statements(No offense). Maybe you should try speaking in our native tongue so we could understand each other better?

[high_heels]

Could you elaborate on your analogy good sir? please educate me as to why

Marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN. If you LGBT's what to play this role...then find another country. Obviously, our STATE and general SOCIETY doesn't have room for this nonsense.

[Romeojin]

ohh my bad! since stoning children is a hell of a lot better than beating up children right? /sarcasm

"and Christians does not necessarily follows some of the Old Testament laws."

Exactly! and why should Same-*** be the exemption? You are nitpicking excerpts that support your cause without understanding the contexts of when these books were written

oh i didnt know children from ages ago were glutton and drunkard and must be stone death as if they are still children lol.

you mistake me, my opposition to gay marriage is without religious biases do back read the thread for my previous comments. My stand on gay marriage is simply put... its yucky now tell me why does irreligious country like Japan and China dont allow gay marriage? do they consult the Bible as well

[Dustashed]

@eve

Might I suggest another thing.. try having a chat with your brother. Ask him about his views on the matter, on his relationships, heartaches etc.
I am sure you will find that there really isn't much difference between a heterosexual couple and a same-*** couple. Good times, bad times, ups and downs.. its all part of the package.. its part of all relationships

[Dustashed]

Marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN. If you LGBT's what to play this role...then find another country. Obviously, our STATE and general SOCIETY doesn't have room for this nonsense.

And that is why we are a democratic country, we are free to express our opinions on the mater.. just because we are LGBT does not make us any less of a FILIPINO citizen. Our forefathers fought wars so we could enjoy that freedom, Who gives you the right to expel us from this country just because we do not share your narrow mindset?

It is because of bigoted homophobic people like you that a lot of LGBT choose to hide their sexuality.
Imagine this: Sometime in the future your son tells you that he is gay, I dare you to tell him the things you are saying now.. would you tell him to migrate to another country? your own flesh and blood.. think about that

[Eve's Apple Project]

Watch the video first then we'll talk..

On Divorce:
So what you are saying is that it is "THEIR" fault for not recognizing the abusive relationship in the first place and not getting out of it before it was too late? So women are not allowed to commit mistakes when it comes to love and relationship? WOW! I am speechless. You say you've seen it first hand, so you mean to say if your dad beat up your mom on a daily basis(I'm not saying he did, but lets take that as an example) you would want her to stick to her previous mistake (marrying your dad), until the day she died?

So you're just gonna say, sorry mom you've made your final answer.. no going back now.
If so, I feel sorry for your mom AND your brother.. your love for them is as shallow as the water puddles in colon

Shallow?! wahaha Lame excuse. You really know nothing about family..wahaha . tawn sad. I have heard similar excuses, di ko mahibong sa imong excuse. but the fact is, di nimo matubag ang issue. the Gay marriage will not solve anything, it only opens more problems. If you talk about rights, parehas ra na sa drug addicts has no right diay? should illegal drugs be allowed (bisan MJ)?. Pag sure oi.. di consistent ang imong gibarogan. tawn sad oi.

My Mother is happy living with our support & so is my dad. Both didn't saw the need to get married to another partner anymore, should i explain why?! Irresponsible parenthood is not an excuse for divorce..tawn sad nimo oi. Clearly you were abused as a child guro mao nang wa ka kasabot.I would assume your family didnt accept you as who you are. And perhaps your extended family is not that extended afterall. Abusive partners belong to jail. If you really think everything in this world is free, think again...

[Dustashed]

oh i didnt know children from ages ago were glutton and drunkard and must be stone death as if they are still children lol.

because children have no mouths to drink wine with and are not capable of binge eating /sarcasm

you mistake me, my opposition to gay marriage is without religious biases do back read the thread for my previous comments. My stand on gay marriage is simply put... its yucky now tell me why does irreligious country like Japan and China dont allow gay marriage? do they consult the Bible as well

Yes, we deny people their basic rights because it makes you uncomfortable.. really classy mate

Cheers!